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Where the heck did that spring from and why am I seeing all the chicken-littles using it? I had no idea Obama was fear mongering, especially after the executive that created a "daily threat level" report.
I haven't heard the term used yet. Is it being used by conservative hacks? If so, I'd suggest that they mean that he is in fear, and not using fear as a tool the way Bush and company did.
Not conservative hacks actually, but there must be thousands of knoxysouths out there (or he spends less time farming okra now and more time posting all over the interweb).
I didn't think about it in terms of Obama in fear. That's a good point.
I didn't think about it in terms of Obama in fear. That's a good point.
Conservative Talk Show Hosts wrote:
OH NOES OBAMA SAID IF WE DON'T RAISE TAXES OUR ECONOMY WILL EXPLODE HE IS USING FEAR TACTICS TO MAKE US SOCIALIST
Conservative Pundits wrote:
OH NOES OBAMA SAID IF WE DON'T RAISE TAXES OUR ECONOMY WILL EXPLODE
NPR wrote:
IF WE DON'T RAISE TAXES OUR ECONOMY WILL EXPLODE
Joe the Plumber wrote:
OUR ECONOMY WILL EXPLODE
Too late.
I mainly just want to know who turned the phrase or adopted it. It's obviously this is coming from a pundit or media personality.
baelnic wrote:
I mainly just want to know who turned the phrase or adopted it. It's obviously this is coming from a pundit or media personality.
Sounds like one of Rush Limbaugh's so-called witticisms.
I haven't heard that particular phrase used by or on any conservative media outlet. Not that I spend all day listening or watching, but if it was super common, I'm sure somewhere along the way I would have heard it.
The sentiment is something a lot of conservatives are talking about though. His speeches since becoming president have been pretty full of doom and gloom, grim realities, etc. I've heard many comparisons between his speeches and Carter's "malaise" speech. His recent speech to Congress was billed as being "Reaganesque" (supposed to be uplifting and full of hope and promise), but it was still pretty gloomy. He managed to highlight a dark cloud in just about every silver lining he talked about.
Add to that a perception among conservatives that the Dems as a party are actively choosing to drag out the financial crisis in order to get as much social spending mileage as possible, and I'm not surprised that you might have heard that sort of expression. When the ink is hardly dry on the latest 800 billion dollar spending package, chock full of stuff with little or no positive economic objective, and we're already hearing talk of the "next" stimulus bill, which may be even larger, it's kinda hard not to think that we are all getting the shaft here.
The sentiment is something a lot of conservatives are talking about though. His speeches since becoming president have been pretty full of doom and gloom, grim realities, etc. I've heard many comparisons between his speeches and Carter's "malaise" speech. His recent speech to Congress was billed as being "Reaganesque" (supposed to be uplifting and full of hope and promise), but it was still pretty gloomy. He managed to highlight a dark cloud in just about every silver lining he talked about.
Add to that a perception among conservatives that the Dems as a party are actively choosing to drag out the financial crisis in order to get as much social spending mileage as possible, and I'm not surprised that you might have heard that sort of expression. When the ink is hardly dry on the latest 800 billion dollar spending package, chock full of stuff with little or no positive economic objective, and we're already hearing talk of the "next" stimulus bill, which may be even larger, it's kinda hard not to think that we are all getting the shaft here.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Add to that a perception among conservatives that the Dems as a party are actively choosing to drag out the financial crisis in order to get as much social spending mileage as possible, and I'm not surprised that you might have heard that sort of expression. When the ink is hardly dry on the latest 800 billion dollar spending package, chock full of stuff with little or no positive economic objective, and we're already hearing talk of the "next" stimulus bill, which may be even larger, it's kinda hard not to think that we are all getting the shaft here.
Unless, of course, you have an inkling of economic sense and can manage not to be insanely biased for just a moment. Then again, it's easier for you to go on thinking that everything's just dandy and we should continue telling Americans that there's nothing to worry about. Positive thinking can see us through anything!
He's not cheery. Like if he introduced "Orange Alerts" and non-specific threats against our safety from the evil doers, then he would give us the optimism we need.
Obama, he talks to us like we're grownups.
Obama, he talks to us like we're grownups.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Crisis, Crisis, Crisis, Crisis, Crisis, CATASTROPHE... Crisis
I just summarized an Obama speech for you. He is using fear to push what he wants to be done about the economy just like Bush used fear to push what he wanted done with the war.
I just summarized an Obama speech for you. He is using fear to push what he wants to be done about the economy just like Bush used fear to push what he wanted done with the war.
Baron von Annabella wrote:
Obama, he talks to us like we're grownups.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
AlexanderrOfAsura wrote:
Crisis, Crisis, Crisis, Crisis, Crisis, CATASTROPHE... Crisis
I just summarized an Obama speech for you. He is using fear to push what he wants to be done about the economy just like Bush used fear to push what he wanted done with the war.
I just summarized an Obama speech for you. He is using fear to push what he wants to be done about the economy just like Bush used fear to push what he wanted done with the war.
Of course, the economy is incredibly ****** up. There is no disputing that ****.
Turin wrote:
Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
I look forward to the "AN AMERICAN HERO!!!" Act.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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Of course, the economy is incredibly @#%^ed up. There is no disputing that sh*t.
More and more so every time you scare the hell out of people saying the economy is going to hell.
There is no disputing the economy being bad just like no disputing people wanted to kill Americans.
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More and more so every time you scare the hell out of people saying the economy is going to hell.
Denial worked out so well for us. We really should have stuck with that.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Majivo wrote:
Unless, of course, you have an inkling of economic sense and can manage not to be insanely biased for just a moment. Then again, it's easier for you to go on thinking that everything's just dandy and we should continue telling Americans that there's nothing to worry about. Positive thinking can see us through anything!
There's a huge gap between being blindly positive and blindly negative. There's also a huge difference between accepting that times are tough and seeking solutions, and using tough times to push an agenda that has nothing to do with fixing the current problems at hand.
Bush's foreign policy strategy worked. Whether many people want to admit it or not. The actions combine with the words here. What Bush said and what Bush did went hand in hand. What Obama is saying is at odds with what his party is doing.
Times are tough, so their response is to go on a spending spree? Really? How exactly is that supposed to work...?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
No, we're saying the economy is already in hell.
The question is, who's actually trying to get us out of the mess? Not Republicans. They want the economic stimulus and recovery to fail, so they can blame Obama and score political points in two years.
E.G, they want America to fail now for political popularity later on.
Why do they hate America?
The question is, who's actually trying to get us out of the mess? Not Republicans. They want the economic stimulus and recovery to fail, so they can blame Obama and score political points in two years.
E.G, they want America to fail now for political popularity later on.
Why do they hate America?
Republicans don't want the stimulus to fail, they want it not to even go through so that it doesn't waste a bunch of money.. and then fail.
Yeah, but sticking with denial now would mean you are going against a Democrat instead of a Republican.
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Denial worked out so well for us. We really should have stuck with that.
Yeah, but sticking with denial now would mean you are going against a Democrat instead of a Republican.
Jophiel wrote:
I look forward to the "AN AMERICAN HERO!!!" Act.
But is he AN REAL AMERICAN HERO?
Ninja Super Fighting Hero Obama!!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
catwho the Pest wrote:
No, we're saying the economy is already in hell.
And who told you that? Does that make you more or less willing to let the folks in Washington try whatever crazy idea they have to try to fix the problem?
See. The reality is that the economy, while weak and headed in the wrong direction, is still right at this moment in better shape than it was for almost the entire 1970s. We don't yet have double digit inflation, or double digit unemployment, or double digit interest rates. So we're not "in" hell, we're just on a course that might take us there. Which is why it's incredibly important that the right economic choices are made right now, instead of ones that scared people allow their politicians to make out of desperation.
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The question is, who's actually trying to get us out of the mess? Not Republicans. They want the economic stimulus and recovery to fail, so they can blame Obama and score political points in two years.
The Democrats just convinced the American public to allow them to pass a set of spending increases for social programs they've been wanting to pass for a couple decades but have never been able to get due to normal public opposition to socialistic spending. The people allowed this because they were told that this was the only way to prevent economic disaster.
Who do you think is benefiting by all of this? The Democrats are getting their wish list of social spending programs passed. They have no vested interest in fixing the problem. As long as it lasts, they can continue to milk it to get whatever they want. The America that comes out the other end of this will not be the same one that went in...
That's fear mongering.
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E.G, they want America to fail now for political popularity later on.
No. They don't want Americans to make the massive mistake of adopting social spending programs that our grandchildren will be paying for out of fear of a current economic problem. We don't want the economy to fail. We just know that what the Dems are doing won't help. They're just taking advantage of the situation.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
And Dem social programs are somehow worse than Barney the Abstinence Clown?
catwho the Pest wrote:
No, we're saying the economy is already in hell.
The question is, who's actually trying to get us out of the mess? Not Republicans. They want the economic stimulus and recovery to fail, so they can blame Obama and score political points in two years.
E.G, they want America to fail now for political popularity later on.
Why do they hate America?
The question is, who's actually trying to get us out of the mess? Not Republicans. They want the economic stimulus and recovery to fail, so they can blame Obama and score political points in two years.
E.G, they want America to fail now for political popularity later on.
Why do they hate America?
My my, what a cute little straw man. Why don't you dress him up with some cute overalls and stereotypes? Believe it or not, aside from nutjobs like Rush Limbaugh, most people want America to succeed.
Samira wrote:
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More and more so every time you scare the hell out of people saying the economy is going to hell.
According to Gbaji-logic, this means that it's completely the fault of those GOP members if the stimulus fails. I mean, they totally demoralized the economy with their nay-saying.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Bush's foreign policy strategy worked.
Check reality. Repost.
"The question is, who's actually trying to get us out of the mess? Not Republicans. They want the economic stimulus and recovery to fail, so they can blame Obama and score political points in two years." --cat ho
Tell me you don't actually believe that, Cat. Because you would be explicitly stating Republicans are actively and intentionally working to destroy the United States. And even at their worst, I'd never suggest that the Dems were or are purposeful agents of their own destruction.
Totem
Tell me you don't actually believe that, Cat. Because you would be explicitly stating Republicans are actively and intentionally working to destroy the United States. And even at their worst, I'd never suggest that the Dems were or are purposeful agents of their own destruction.
Totem
Totem wrote:
Because you would be explicitly stating Republicans are actively and intentionally working to destroy the United States.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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