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#27 Feb 25 2009 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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Are you implying that Pikko rents out for less than $1.70/day?
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Ah, but you're assuming she'll transition well to making bento-flavored pills when we all move on to swallowing our meals at a single gulp. And what if your kid gets in a terrible accident? I'm not sure she has what it takes to make intravenous bento, frankly.
#28 Feb 25 2009 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
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In middle and high school we had PINs for our lunch accounts, so we'd just enter them into the number pad and whether lunch was free or reduced would automatically be in the computer. I'm guessing this is the system that will be most widespread in the future, though I don't know if they'll incorporate it for younger students. It's definitely a lot less embarrassing than standing in front of everyone and having to announce it, though I think your example is rather badly exaggerated.

They already do this in the elementary schools where I live. Most of the time Xavier, who is in first grade, takes a lunch in to school, but once in awhile he wants to buy. You send the cash in, they add it to the kids PIN #, and the kids are responsible for knowing what their PIN is. You can even add in to the computer system if the kids can use their money to buy extra snacks, and choose which days they can and can't.
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In middle and high school we had PINs for our lunch accounts, so we'd just enter them into the number pad and whether lunch was free or reduced would automatically be in the computer. I'm guessing this is the system that will be most widespread in the future, though I don't know if they'll incorporate it for younger students. It's definitely a lot less embarrassing than standing in front of everyone and having to announce it, though I think your example is rather badly exaggerated.

They already do this in the elementary schools where I live. Most of the time Xavier, who is in first grade, takes a lunch in to school, but once in awhile he wants to buy. You send the cash in, they add it to the kids PIN #, and the kids are responsible for knowing what their PIN is. You can even add in to the computer system if the kids can use their money to buy extra snacks, and choose which days they can and can't.


I'm assuming from the article that these kids were signed up for the lunch program, but their parents hadn't paid into it for quite some time. The school could have just given them no food, but decided to give them cheese sandwiches so they'd have something to eat. Whether one is receiving the lunch at a reduced price (or free) based on economic situation isn't going to be known or announced in the lunch line itself, and I don't think that was really the issue. The cost is determined elsewhere. The parents simply hadn't paid for the lunches and the school had been just giving them free lunches anyway and trying to collect the money owed, but when that didn't work had to put their foot down (sorta).
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#30 Feb 25 2009 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
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In middle and high school we had PINs for our lunch accounts, so we'd just enter them into the number pad and whether lunch was free or reduced would automatically be in the computer. I'm guessing this is the system that will be most widespread in the future, though I don't know if they'll incorporate it for younger students. It's definitely a lot less embarrassing than standing in front of everyone and having to announce it, though I think your example is rather badly exaggerated.

They already do this in the elementary schools where I live. Most of the time Xavier, who is in first grade, takes a lunch in to school, but once in awhile he wants to buy. You send the cash in, they add it to the kids PIN #, and the kids are responsible for knowing what their PIN is. You can even add in to the computer system if the kids can use their money to buy extra snacks, and choose which days they can and can't.


I'm assuming from the article that these kids were signed up for the lunch program, but their parents hadn't paid into it for quite some time. The school could have just given them no food, but decided to give them cheese sandwiches so they'd have something to eat. Whether one is receiving the lunch at a reduced price (or free) based on economic situation isn't going to be known or announced in the lunch line itself, and I don't think that was really the issue. The cost is determined elsewhere. The parents simply hadn't paid for the lunches and the school had been just giving them free lunches anyway and trying to collect the money owed, but when that didn't work had to put their foot down (sorta).



Do you just type to type? While I get your general statement above and have no issue with it, I'm trying to figure out why you would quote something about computerizing school lunches in elementary school, as an answer to the above quoted query wondering if they would incorporate this as standard procedure below middle school. Your statement just seems beyond vague and could have been thrown out there on it's own.

I'm just blatently curious Smiley: confused
#31 Feb 25 2009 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Lady DSD wrote:
They already do this in the elementary schools where I live. Most of the time Xavier, who is in first grade, takes a lunch in to school, but once in awhile he wants to buy. You send the cash in, they add it to the kids PIN #, and the kids are responsible for knowing what their PIN is. You can even add in to the computer system if the kids can use their money to buy extra snacks, and choose which days they can and can't.


That's pretty snazzy, actually. I figured the schools in my area didn't trust the kids to keep track of their PINs, but they probably just weren't up to speed yet. I didn't know you could set those sorts of limits, though. Probably would've come in handy for me, since my mom could never figure out why I kept ending up short money when she knew she had given me enough - but hey, at $2 a week, it wasn't terribly pressing.
#32 Feb 25 2009 at 2:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm assuming from the article that these kids were signed up for the lunch program, but their parents hadn't paid into it for quite some time. The school could have just given them no food, but decided to give them cheese sandwiches so they'd have something to eat. Whether one is receiving the lunch at a reduced price (or free) based on economic situation isn't going to be known or announced in the lunch line itself, and I don't think that was really the issue. The cost is determined elsewhere. The parents simply hadn't paid for the lunches and the school had been just giving them free lunches anyway and trying to collect the money owed, but when that didn't work had to put their foot down (sorta).


You didn't even read the linked article did you?If you had, you would have seen: In some cases, parents are waiting for approval to participate in government-aided lunch programs.

We all know how easy it is for you to gloss over the full deal to meet your ends but jesus man, that's a bit much.

And as Dr. Hill (quoted in the article) said "We are taking an adult problem, and the children are the ones getting the punishment for it" is absolutely correct. It's not right in any manner.

In my opinion, the school fees you pay twice a year (or once, whatever) should include a % of what it would cost the school to feed a child for the year. Yea, it's the rich paying for the poor (go ahead Gbaji, just say it) but it does solve the problem in budgeting.
#33 Feb 25 2009 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
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They already do this in the elementary schools where I live. Most of the time Xavier, who is in first grade, takes a lunch in to school, but once in awhile he wants to buy. You send the cash in, they add it to the kids PIN #, and the kids are responsible for knowing what their PIN is. You can even add in to the computer system if the kids can use their money to buy extra snacks, and choose which days they can and can't.


That's pretty snazzy, actually. I figured the schools in my area didn't trust the kids to keep track of their PINs, but they probably just weren't up to speed yet. I didn't know you could set those sorts of limits, though. Probably would've come in handy for me, since my mom could never figure out why I kept ending up short money when she knew she had given me enough - but hey, at $2 a week, it wasn't terribly pressing.


It might be just the computer system they use, but yeah, being able to keep track of extra goodies has been helpful. As for remembering PINs, the kids are great at it. Even if they forget though, the lunch servers can type in the childs name and all their info pops up. It took Xavier about a week to remember when we first moved down here and he was buying more often. Now I can just ask him his PIN and he knows it by heart
#34 Feb 25 2009 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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My oldest one just uses cash and buys whatever a la cart, since he's in high school and won't eat a school lunch. He gets a set amount from me and up to him to budget it.

My middle one gets free lunches at the school he's currently at. But the school is a no frills, lockdown type so it's a cold lunch and the kids aren't allowed any choices.

My youngest one goes half and half on lunches. She checks the menu and if she doesn't want the mystery meat pocket sandwich thing for lunch the next day, she'll make up her own lunch at home.
#35gbaji, Posted: Feb 25 2009 at 3:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And in other cases, they qualified already, but didn't pay even the reduced rate. Or they didn't even bother to apply, could pay full price, but never bothered to cause the school would just give them a free one anyway.
#36 Feb 25 2009 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you just type to type? While I get your general statement above and have no issue with it, I'm trying to figure out why you would quote something about computerizing school lunches in elementary school, as an answer to the above quoted query wondering if they would incorporate this as standard procedure below middle school.


I was responding to the idea that the mechanism used for the child to pick up the lunch was any more or less "embarrassing". If Xavier types in his PIN and there isn't enough funds in the account for a lunch, what happens? Is that any different than what happens to a child in the article who's parents didn't (or forgot to) pay?


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#37 Feb 25 2009 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I totally had a cold cheese sandwich for dinner...but without the bread and condiments...you know, in protest.

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#38 Feb 25 2009 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
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he gets a sticker on his shirt that says "Need Lunch Money". I've yet to see him, or any other kid, flip out over it. most kids age 6 and 7 enjoy stickers, and while they realize it's a message to mom and dad, it doesnt take away the coolness factor that they got a sticker while the other kids didn't. Smiley: grin
#39 Feb 25 2009 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
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There are alot of incredibly disorganized families out there who can't get it together. Schools are admittedly in the thankless situation of having to do too much social service work but I hope that if the problem with some kids is that they they don't seem to be getting enough to eat and don't have any paperwork filled out/ money for lunch provided, that someone tries to do some outreach with the parents. Maybe it isn't anything but schools are the only institution that kids often have a relationship with and I hope that someone is looking out for them because it might be indicative of other problems.
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#40 Feb 25 2009 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good
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I had some friends who would've asked their parents to not pay. They loved cheese sandwiches.
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#41 Feb 25 2009 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Am I the only one here who would have preferred the cheese sandwich (I eat those now!) to whatever weird *** lunch-lady created meal they were having that day (wtf is Mexican pizza? Oh, and pigs in a blanket are @#%^ing disgusting)?

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I just like cheese and mayo. Yeah, I said it. Take that.

If I'm feeling all fancy, I might add some spicy brown mustard! Extra fancy is hummus and vegetables, but that doesn't, in my mind, constitute a "cheese sandwich" anymore...it's a veggie sandwich with cheese.

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Add ketchup to that mayo and mustard cheese sandwich. Mustard on one side and the mayo and ketchup on the other side. It's a pretty good combination!
#42 Feb 25 2009 at 3:48 PM Rating: Default
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he gets a sticker on his shirt that says "Need Lunch Money". I've yet to see him, or any other kid, flip out over it. most kids age 6 and 7 enjoy stickers, and while they realize it's a message to mom and dad, it doesnt take away the coolness factor that they got a sticker while the other kids didn't.


Apparently, this wasn't working in this district. Does he still get a lunch? And if you continue to forget to pay, does he continue to get a lunch and a sticker "forever"? Or at some point, do they stop giving him a lunch?
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#43 Feb 25 2009 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently it is that you like to just type. Thanks for sating my curiosity. Smiley: grin
#44 Feb 25 2009 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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My son's school uses the PIN system also. And if I fall behind on lunch money, they just send a little note home with his homework. I've fallen behind a couple of weeks (I can't remember ****) and they've never penalized him.
#45 Feb 25 2009 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Apparently it is that you like to just type. Thanks for sating my curiosity.


Well, that too... ;)
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#46 Feb 25 2009 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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Shrek came out when my youngest step brother was oh, between 3 and 4. Does everyone remember the green ketchup? Lord, my little brother would eat nothing BUT Shrek ketchup and American cheese sandwiches for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. For weeks. He survived. Smiley: lol

And frankly, I'm on the side that would have preferred the cheese sandwiches. Not because I like them particularly, but because I have some sort of weird trauma with lunchroom food that still lingers today. That **** was putrid 98% of the time. My mother paid for my hot lunch, just to avoid having to make me a lunch every morning. I rarely ate lunch at school, and I would get awful migraines towards the end of the day. Smiley: frown The cheese sandwiches may have saved me!
#47 Feb 25 2009 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
I'm of the opinion that you give your child his or her lunch $ for the week, in cash, at the beginning of each week.

If they can't make it through the week, or spend it on drugs, they'll have to figure it out on their own.

There's just some things you can't teach.
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#48 Feb 25 2009 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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My elementary school had a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter and a jar of grape and/or strawberry jam at the end of the line. This was for students that didn't have any money or a lunch card. Our school didn't care about allergy ridden children.

The lunch card was purchased through the school at a price determined by an application you filled out. Either Full Price, Reduced, or Free. Regardless of price, the card was exactly the same, and had your name on it and 4 weeks worth of stamps which the lunch lady punched.

There was really nothing telling about who got what. No one could tell unless you told them yourself.
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#49 Feb 25 2009 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Tough luck for the poor kids. Being poor, they'll have to get used to being continually fUcked by the system anyway, so might as well start them off young.
#50 Feb 25 2009 at 6:41 PM Rating: Good
We got a Sternly Worded Letter (tm) from our teacher to take home if we went behind on lunch money payments.

Edit: And yes, in the US, many children have parents who go to work at 4AM, so they don't have time to make them nice lunches in the morning and they're too exhausted from double shifts to make them at night.

These are the kids who also probably don't get breakfast or dinner, as that one grandfather said.

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 9:42pm by catwho
#51 Feb 25 2009 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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When did they start allowing kids to charge lunch at school? We either brought out own,which was sure to be better than the school lunch, or paid up front for what we getting.
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