Governor JindalFollow

And yet you named the thread after him...



"you all" refers to liberals in general Joph, not just you...


I was referring to what I've been seeing when looking across all the blogs and news sites. It's amazing how many "Now that a bunch of other people are criticizing him, I will parrot what they're saying" type of comments are out there. Hence my comment about original thought.


The "out of context" quotes were specific to the massive repetition of a set of single quotes from a single Fox News panel discussion after the speech. Forgetting that half of the four panelists are liberals, and the quotes from the two conservatives weren't that his speech was bad, but that it wasn't "great". But when you read all four, one after the other (without the intervening conversation) it gives the false impression that this is a bunch of conservatives panning Jindal. That in turn was pushed out on all the blogs, and magically you post this today.


Perception is reality for many people. If the news you read this morning said that his speech was incredible, you'd be repeating that instead (or, more likely, ignoring it since he's a Republican). At some point, one has to wonder if what we're seeing as opinion is just repetition. Heck. You did quote someone who said she thought it as ok last night, but has a completely different opinion today. I wonder what changed her mind? The urge to follow the crowd is very strong...

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 5:52pm by gbaji

Nah. You just said "me too!" in response.

See, what's funny is that Jindal is about as intelligent as Palin, but without the T&A to drown out the dumb.

To be fair, random bloggers on Townhall are probably more credible sources than "Gbaji land."

Among others. But, I know.... any actual examples of conservatives saying that his performance sucked either aren't "real" conservatives (Brooks) or were out of context (Fox panel) or aren't important enough to count (columnists from Townhall.com) or is the effect of liberal media brainwashing (Carpenter -- well, until it turned out this wasn't true so now she's a 'random blogger') or... well, there's always an excuse to avoid admitting that Jindal's speech was widely panned even in conservative circles.

So, Gbaji, what'd you think of Jindel's speech last night?

It's also a notable difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives will freely criticize other conservatives (especially elected Republicans) over what may sometimes be the smallest of things. When liberals disagree with Democrats, they either look the other way, or just keep their mouths shut.


It's more important for liberals that their party wins, than that their party actually does the right things. And it makes the "OMG! Even his own party doesn't agree with him" rhetoric kinda old and stale when it comes from them.

How many times did we hear that about Bush? You can *always* find some conservatives who'll find something negative to say about a conservative politician. It really doesn't mean as much as Joph keeps trying to make it out to be. You guys can mindlessly drool over how wonderful a speaker Obama is while he (and the Dems in congress) proceed to rape this country anally if you want. Style over substance I guess...

Yeah, Hot Air is where all the liberals hang out.

You read Hot Air normally? Or followed a story about how conservatives were panning Jindal's speech. C'mon Joph. We all know the truth here...

Yup. Look, I know it shatters your little myth you have going here but I regularly read a wide array of sites. If fact, most of them (which aren't plain news sites) tend conservative. I read Townhall, Hot Air, NRO & American Spectator much more often than Daily Kos, Mother Jones or Huffington Post. Why? Because no one on Daily Kos has anything really new to tell me. I listen to conservative talk radio on my way to work, on my way home from work, on lunch, on my way home and to-and-from school. Maybe you're delighted in your little echo chamber or something but I actually listen to what the other side is saying if for no other reason than a change of pace.Well, I guess that if proving something is true by presenting evidence is jumping up and down, I'm just having me a righteous ole tizzy-fit of factualness over here

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 9:56pm by Jophiel

Gbaji never did give his impression of Jindal's speech last night. Now we'll never know what a real conservative thought about it.

Um... Joph cared enough to start this thread. You care enough to keep insisting that it was a horrible speech. All the liberal blogs repeating the same tired statements over and over. It sure looks to me like you guys care an awful lot...


Yeah. A clear indication of Joph or me caring an awful lot about something is our taking time out of our otherwise jam packed, orphan rescuing, Bin Laden hunting day to bother to post about it here. Nothing could possibly indicate what is important to us than that.


What's so funny is that you all feel like quoting other conservatives out of context somehow strengthens the "Jindal Suck!" position. It's almost as funny as the obvious media manipulation when you see thousands of different sites all saying exactly the same things. Gee. Coincidence? I think not... It's nice to see that liberals are such original thinkers.

What's really funny is that no one did this until you started accusing the great invisible liberals of doing so. At that point, someone, not me incidentally, as one of the few things I could care less about than how Jindal was rated by voters is how he was rated by "Conservative" voters, people began defending the strawman side of your argument. I'd imagine, because as often happens here, you're so monumentally stupid that it's perfectly viable to argue the case you've attempted to set out as a charitable of the other side.

I agree, that it's amazing. I'm always a little disingenuous, myself when Joph thinks "Well, I wasn't at all arguing that, but now that you mention it, it's perfectly defensible." then proceeds to kick your ***, I'd assume while laughing, by arguing from a point of view he doesn't hold because it's so trivially easy to destroy your logic free rhetoric with nearly ANYTHING.

If you care to translate that bit of sadistic ambivalence on his part as "caring an awful lot", feel free, but I think we're all aware that it would take about 10 or 11 seconds for any of us to disabuse any even vaguely rational person of that notion. Not you of course, Captain, but then no one's really set out with that as the goal, have they?

You're a craftsman, Joph.