Democrat States put on WelfareFollow

The leaps in logic are astounding.

Oh, so now it isn't welfare if red states receive it... it's quality assistance. And you admit we're right: blue states receive less welf- sorry, quality assistance.

I'm really not sure what the heck you meant by that comment, in all honesty, but it sounds like you replaced the word "welfare" with "quality assistance." Maybe the grammar and lack of context just made it difficult to understand.

I think the point seems clear. Some big states receive a lot of federal assistance. However, many of these that are blue states give back much more in taxes than they receive in benefits, AND per person receive less than red states. There isn't anything inherently wrong with this. However, it does seem quite hypocritical for the lawmakers from these "welfare" states to bad-mouth government handouts when they are relying on these handouts just to get by. If lawmakers want to give up their handouts, I think that's noble, especially in these economic times. If the federal government didn't tax them, then that's fine as well. The government would still spend less.

Gbaji is right; some of it is because it's easier to help a localized impoverished area (like an inner city) than it is a widespread impoverished area (rural farmland). It doesn't change the fact that the folks still take the handouts while some of their elected officials decry such actions.

Edited, Feb 24th 2009 3:39pm by LockeColeMA

Of course not. NY & CA aren't leeching off the system, they're the ones paying into it. Of course, we could make each state fully responsible for its own funding and watch the red states wither on the vine while the major blue states sat fat & happy. Hell, I'd even be willing to throw a little Prairie State money towards Maine to help them out

Obviously because they're supporting your dead ***

If CA didn't have to give up 30% more than it receives they'd have lots of extra money for the state!

It would seem to me that the 'welfare recipients' you guys should be concerned about at the moment are those guys on Wall Street who are pissing themselves laughing at the expense of the next umpteen generations of your offspring US taxpayer.

I guess that inter-tribal bickering is more interesting tho.

Please, continue......

Varrus may be the world's most successful forum troll.

Federal spending isn't purely money for the poor folk. It's not even mainly money for poor folks.

Good argument though!

Edited, Feb 24th 2009 5:54pm by Jophiel

Oh and the market is at it's lowest lvl in 10yrs thanks to Obamas spending bill.

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No.

Well, except that I understood what it meant when I used it even if you didn't.

See, your first mistake was probably in assuming that I was trying to engage in a serious debate with Varrus. Your second mistake was to start knee-jerk defending the red states without knowing what in the fuck you were even arguing.

Your third mistake will be when you post some seven paragraph response to why those weren't really mistakes.

Nah. A good troll starts the controversy rolling and never lets himself be seen as an instigator, unlike virus, who is basically a pimple.

On my screen, there's a vertical line of space through Smash's HA HAHAHA's, and it's very disconcerting.

This is the type of thread where being an OOT'er proves useful.

Hey, Varrus, your mom.