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The whole "but I don't want muh tax dollars going to teh ghays" argument is a foot long ******** sandwich smothered in weak-sauce. How about this. We allow gays to get married and everyone sends you 2 cents or so at the end of every year to cover your supposed tax liability.


Seriously, I'm a redneck from Hog Mountain, GA. I'm so "not gay" that girl on girl doesn't even turn me on. The thought of 2 guys kissing makes me kinda ill, but I know discrimination when I see it. No one is saying you have to approve of what they do, just that we can not discriminate. Making others miserable to appease our whims is just fackin' wrong. Just accept it.

The real surprise is that you needed Gbaji to open your eyes about this. I mean, what is wrong with you? Next you'll tell us you never realised people only have children to leech benefits or (dispassionately) continue the species.

Thank you Aripyanfar, I think highly of you as well.

I think that means you've completely gone around the spectrum and are back in "gay" territory.

I would argue that it is almost always the inverse. People who become physically ill just by thinking about two guys kissing aren't doing so out of some inbred physiological response, it's from years of society telling them it's wrong. Especially men. You don't get your man card unless you say "oh gross" when something homosexual is depicted in TV or film.

Yeah.

I hate pickles. Ban Pickles!!!!!

A moving campaign, so thanks for the link Nexa. Incidentally, nobody I've spoken to here in Englandland finds the story believable; that a law could be passed retrospectively that does such immense harm, with no justification other than an unChristian judgemental stance from the Judeo-Christian right.

Good job you separated church from state guys.

It just goes to show we had it right in the first place. Most of the world really isn't ready to govern themsleves responsibly.



Well, obviously. The rich's motives are beyond question.

I don't equate Christianity (or any religion) with intolerance.

But I do equate the "Christian right" with intolerant inhumanity

So you are essentially criticizing one type of bigotry by using another?

/sigh

Bigotry about religion, Allegory.

I'm not "slandering angrily," Allegory. The language you use has a very negative connotation, especially as you apply it to religion. You also miss the point of what I am saying--it's not religion that's the problem, homophobia is mostly cultural and not religious in origin. You skip right by that point b/c of your eagerness to blame religion again. In other words, it's not religion that is the rotten turkey, it's culture and tradition.

I should stop before this becomes another 18 page thread where all these people blame religion for all the world's evils and then focus on some diatribe made by Alma, because all the self-righteous religious bashers can feel superior. And they will not attribute anything positive to religion--OH NO! It's all bad. And only look at everything negative and discount all positives, b/c that's a really useful stance to have. I feel superior to a tin of can ham--I'm guessing that tin doesn't believe in God either, so I can feel how you feel in those discussions.




Edited, Feb 22nd 2009 9:24pm by Annabella

Sure it does, but it's accurate. It's not bigotry for a doctor to warn a black patient that she is at greater risk for colon polyps than a white female. Negative statements aren't necessarily prejudiced Anna. If you can show that what I have said about religion here is factually wrong and that I have treated it more harshly than what it really is, then you would be be correct in calling me a bigot. If you cannot, then you have simply used the term as a generic and interchangeable insult because you don't like what I said, and you might as well have called me an *******.

No Anna. This is the second time you assumed I've made the mistake, and I then have to walk you back to show you where you have made the mistake. I didn't skip over it; I said it myself, three times.



Please don't just skim my posts for connotation.

I never missed your point. I just didn't attack it because it's an obviously true statement with which I do not disagree. I also incorporated it into my point, so since you obviously didn't see that you obviously have no idea what I'm talking about here.

It's an irritating coincidence that in this instance it was you who was too eager to call me a bigot that you only skimmed my post for connotation and failed to see that I agreed with you on the point you said I missed.

You're the biased party here Anna.