Let me preface this with the fact that Katie has issues and avoids violent or horrific videos and audio at all cost. I literally freeze up and cannot function, sends me into crying fits and just freaks me the hell out. Nightmares the whole works.
The story about the chimp mauling the woman is horrific, apparently not horrific enough to keep from playing the 911 audio on morning radio. Here I was beboping along listening to my favorite radio show when without warning of how graphically violent what they are about to play is, they put on the 911 audio of the owner calling the cops. I cant change the channel, I'm frozen. I'm still freaked the **** out. Seriously, this **** ***** with me and always has. I'm still irate that they'd play something like that on the radio. They just effectively broadcast what could be the murder of this lady. You can hear the screaming and the noise in the back ground. She's screaming at the 911 operator to have the cops come with guns drawn that "he's eating her".
Where do we draw the line? I'm all for shock jocks and what not but this show is usually quite tame. I cannot imagine being a family member of this lady and hearing this being broadcast all over the country. Why did they think this would be in good taste to play? It literally made me ill. I still can't get the audio out of my head. I know we joke about having stuff burned into our memory but this is something I could have lived with never ever hearing.
(No! I'm not linking the audio, it's sick. )
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I tend to agree with you. I'm all for freedom of speech but when does it cross that line and start affecting other peoples rights.
Example: My local Catholic Church is very anti abortion. About twice a year they get a large group together and spread out along the side of a busy 6 lane highway for about 3miles with pictures of torn a part babies and other sick pictures. Very graphic.
It always makes me mad. Not because they don't agree with abortion, personally I feel its not for me to judge, but because how does the mother with her 4,5,6 year old child explain that?
Why should she have to subject her children to that?
Don't I have the right to not look at this? Not like I can close my eyes while driving down the road.
Or, what about the idiot that’s so busy looking at the pictures that they cross over the lane and hit me.
Yes, I could go another route that day and if I'm aware they will be doing it that’s exactly what I do. But like the OP said... Where do we draw the line on what we are forced to look at or listen too?
Edited, Feb 19th 2009 4:38pm by toohotforu
Example: My local Catholic Church is very anti abortion. About twice a year they get a large group together and spread out along the side of a busy 6 lane highway for about 3miles with pictures of torn a part babies and other sick pictures. Very graphic.
It always makes me mad. Not because they don't agree with abortion, personally I feel its not for me to judge, but because how does the mother with her 4,5,6 year old child explain that?
Why should she have to subject her children to that?
Don't I have the right to not look at this? Not like I can close my eyes while driving down the road.
Or, what about the idiot that’s so busy looking at the pictures that they cross over the lane and hit me.
Yes, I could go another route that day and if I'm aware they will be doing it that’s exactly what I do. But like the OP said... Where do we draw the line on what we are forced to look at or listen too?
Edited, Feb 19th 2009 4:38pm by toohotforu
The One and Only toohotforu wrote:
I tend to agree with you. I'm all for freedom of speech but when does it cross that line and start affecting other peoples rights.
Example: My local Catholic Church is very anti abortion. About twice a year they get a large group together and spread out along the side of a busy 6 lane highway for about 3miles with pictures of torn a part babies and other sick pictures. Very graphic.
It always makes me mad. Not because they don't agree with abortion, personally I feel its not for me to judge, but because how does the mother with her 4,5,6 year old child explain that?
Why should she have to subject her children to that?
Don't I have the right to not look at this? Not like I can close my eyes while driving down the road.
Or, what about the idiot that’s so busy looking at the pictures that they cross over the lane and hit me.
Yes, I could go another route that day and if I'm aware they will be doing it that’s exactly what I do. But like the OP said... Where do we draw the line on what we are forced to look at or listen too?
Edited, Feb 19th 2009 4:38pm by toohotforu
Example: My local Catholic Church is very anti abortion. About twice a year they get a large group together and spread out along the side of a busy 6 lane highway for about 3miles with pictures of torn a part babies and other sick pictures. Very graphic.
It always makes me mad. Not because they don't agree with abortion, personally I feel its not for me to judge, but because how does the mother with her 4,5,6 year old child explain that?
Why should she have to subject her children to that?
Don't I have the right to not look at this? Not like I can close my eyes while driving down the road.
Or, what about the idiot that’s so busy looking at the pictures that they cross over the lane and hit me.
Yes, I could go another route that day and if I'm aware they will be doing it that’s exactly what I do. But like the OP said... Where do we draw the line on what we are forced to look at or listen too?
Edited, Feb 19th 2009 4:38pm by toohotforu
That is horrible. I think I'd be filing a complaint with the church over this. That is just sick.
I've never understood why 911 calls are made public anyway except in some exceptional circumstances. And "Because it'd be cool to listen to a woman getting eaten by a chimp" doesn't count as such a circumstance.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
For whatever reason people think that the answer to our jaded, benumbed desensitization to violence and hysteria is best solved by turning the volume up, not down.
People are stupid, bottom line.
People are stupid, bottom line.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Samira wrote:
For whatever reason people think that the answer to our jaded, benumbed desensitization to violence and hysteria is best solved by turning the volume up, not down.
People are stupid, bottom line.
People are stupid, bottom line.
MrKatie was pissed when he came home and got to deal with me being all spastic. I could not turn the dial and frozen having to listen to that was just horrible. I know it sounds all childish but seriously, this **** screws with me. Had MrKatie trying to talk me into going in and talking to mental health over it. I do not know why I'm like that, I avoid stuff like that for a reason. I know I can't handle it. I'm going to have nightmares for forever about this now.
I know, I know. "Way to go turning that poor lady's misfortune into being about you, Katie".
We just get inundated by so much, it's overwhelming.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Here in Englandland we've invented the ability to switch channels or even turn off the TV or Radio. It's amazing!
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Well at any rate, your personal psychological issues don't determine what's okay to play on the radio. It's not their fault that you "couldn't change the channel."
Regarding the disclosure issue, I suppose I would compromise that 911 calls should be public record in any case where legal charges related to the incident are formally raised, but probably sealed otherwise.
Even so - even with the ability to switch channels or switch it off, there's a valid question of taste, of ethics, of a healthy public discourse.
Of course "if you don't like it don't watch it" is the easier answer.
Of course "if you don't like it don't watch it" is the easier answer.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Nobby wrote:
Here in Englandland we've invented the ability to switch channels or even turn off the TV or Radio. It's amazing!
Yeah, that only works if you can function during things like that. I literally cannot when faced with stuff like that. Even films people wouldn't think about being overly frightening like "Not Without My Daughter", the scene where the husband is beating his wife and screaming at her in the school hall way. MrKatie rented that for us to watch when we were dating. I flipped out. I started crying hysterically and he had to turn it off and get me calmed down before I could explain what happened.
Katielynn wrote:
Yeah, that only works if you can function during things like that. I literally cannot when faced with stuff like that.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Samira wrote:
Even so - even with the ability to switch channels or switch it off, there's a valid question of taste, of ethics, of a healthy public discourse.
Right, but her entire argument seemed to be framed around her panic attack response, rather than a dispassionate evaluation.
Jophiel wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
Yeah, that only works if you can function during things like that. I literally cannot when faced with stuff like that.
True story. Except without the pokemon and a lot more vomiting.
trickybeck wrote:
Samira wrote:
Even so - even with the ability to switch channels or switch it off, there's a valid question of taste, of ethics, of a healthy public discourse.
Right, but her entire argument seemed to be framed around her panic attack response, rather than a dispassionate evaluation.
Try having a panic attack while you're driving down the road. Fun stuff.
Katielynn wrote:
trickybeck wrote:
Samira wrote:
Even so - even with the ability to switch channels or switch it off, there's a valid question of taste, of ethics, of a healthy public discourse.
Right, but her entire argument seemed to be framed around her panic attack response, rather than a dispassionate evaluation.
Try having a panic attack while you're driving down the road. Fun stuff.
Something like that almost happened to me once. Only, it's not as severe, and I was able to turn the music off, thankfully. I still don't know what it was. Something about the beat of the song I was listening to and how it was sort of erratic and speeding up and slowing down, it started to make me really anxious and panicky. It was scary.
Maybe your husband's right, Katie. Maybe you should see someone about this so that you can over come it. At least enough not to be paralyzed on the spot.
Edited, Feb 19th 2009 4:32pm by Belkira
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
trickybeck wrote:
Samira wrote:
Even so - even with the ability to switch channels or switch it off, there's a valid question of taste, of ethics, of a healthy public discourse.
Right, but her entire argument seemed to be framed around her panic attack response, rather than a dispassionate evaluation.
Try having a panic attack while you're driving down the road. Fun stuff.
Something like that almost happened to me once. Only, it's not as severe, and I was able to turn the music off, thankfully. I still don't know what it was. Something about the beat of the song I was listening to and how it was sort of erratic and speeding up and slowing down, it started to make me really anxious and panicky. It was scary.
Maybe you're husband's right, Katie. Maybe you should see someone about this so that you can over come it. At least enough not to be paralyzed on the spot.
Yeah. I'm looking at trying to get tricare to refer me off base for other reasons. I feel uncomfortable with the mental health staff on base because they work for the same company I do. I've never had this happen while I was driving before. Totally freaked me out. I think I sat at that stupid flashing light in a not so nice part of town for the entirety of the clip which felt like an eternity.
Came home all paranoid feeling like something was chasing me. Had to make sure I locked the door twice, had to check the house just to reassure myself nothing was in there. I hate it. I know it's irrational but getting myself to back down from that ledge is scary. I still feel paranoid today, very aware of every noise in the house. I know and you know it's stupid and it's just something on the radio but something in me gets all freaked out.
Katielynn wrote:
Yeah. I'm looking at trying to get tricare to refer me off base for other reasons. I feel uncomfortable with the mental health staff on base because they work for the same company I do. I've never had this happen while I was driving before. Totally freaked me out. I think I sat at that stupid flashing light in a not so nice part of town for the entirety of the clip which felt like an eternity.
Came home all paranoid feeling like something was chasing me. Had to make sure I locked the door twice, had to check the house just to reassure myself nothing was in there. I hate it. I know it's irrational but getting myself to back down from that ledge is scary. I still feel paranoid today, very aware of every noise in the house. I know and you know it's stupid and it's just something on the radio but something in me gets all freaked out.
Came home all paranoid feeling like something was chasing me. Had to make sure I locked the door twice, had to check the house just to reassure myself nothing was in there. I hate it. I know it's irrational but getting myself to back down from that ledge is scary. I still feel paranoid today, very aware of every noise in the house. I know and you know it's stupid and it's just something on the radio but something in me gets all freaked out.
Given your past, I don't think it's terribly surprising that you don't feel entirely safe all the time.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
Yeah. I'm looking at trying to get tricare to refer me off base for other reasons. I feel uncomfortable with the mental health staff on base because they work for the same company I do. I've never had this happen while I was driving before. Totally freaked me out. I think I sat at that stupid flashing light in a not so nice part of town for the entirety of the clip which felt like an eternity.
Came home all paranoid feeling like something was chasing me. Had to make sure I locked the door twice, had to check the house just to reassure myself nothing was in there. I hate it. I know it's irrational but getting myself to back down from that ledge is scary. I still feel paranoid today, very aware of every noise in the house. I know and you know it's stupid and it's just something on the radio but something in me gets all freaked out.
Came home all paranoid feeling like something was chasing me. Had to make sure I locked the door twice, had to check the house just to reassure myself nothing was in there. I hate it. I know it's irrational but getting myself to back down from that ledge is scary. I still feel paranoid today, very aware of every noise in the house. I know and you know it's stupid and it's just something on the radio but something in me gets all freaked out.
Given your past, I don't think it's terribly surprising that you don't feel entirely safe all the time.
Yeah, that crossed my mind yesterday too. I started trying to think of why I freak out like this and I started remembering things I hadn't thought of in years. I'd just like to point out that my parents really made some stupid decisions while I was growing up.
Fun stuff
Why do I even have relations with my parents any more? /boggle
Actually, that seems to have helped. Thanks.
Edited, Feb 19th 2009 4:51pm by Katielynn
Samira wrote:
Of course "if you don't like it don't watch it" is the easier answer.
And the appropriate one, as well.
I like hearing fingers dislocating. I like listening to the popcorn sound of a compound fracture. The shrieks of a woman being eaten alive make me sexually excited.
I have a right to hear these things. And I can't afford a chimp.
Katielynn wrote:
Yeah, that crossed my mind yesterday too. I started trying to think of why I freak out like this and I started remembering things I hadn't thought of in years. I'd just like to point out that my parents really made some stupid decisions while I was growing up.
Fun stuff
Why do I even have relations with my parents any more? /boggle
Actually, that seems to have helped. Thanks.
Edited, Feb 19th 2009 4:51pm by Katielynn
Fun stuff
Why do I even have relations with my parents any more? /boggle
Actually, that seems to have helped. Thanks.
Edited, Feb 19th 2009 4:51pm by Katielynn
If that short exchange helped, imagine what time with a therapist could do.
Good luck, I hope you get that referral.Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Samira wrote:
Of course "if you don't like it don't watch it" is the easier answer.
And the appropriate one, as well.
I like hearing fingers dislocating. I like listening to the popcorn sound of a compound fracture. The shrieks of a woman being eaten alive make me sexually excited.
I have a right to hear these things. And I can't afford a chimp.
I've told you I'm willing to do anything to please you, why don't you believe me?
Jophiel wrote:
I've never understood why 911 calls are made public anyway except in some exceptional circumstances. And "Because it'd be cool to listen to a woman getting eaten by a chimp" doesn't count as such a circumstance.
Ratings.
I tend to agree with you. I'm all for freedom of speech but when does it cross that line and start affecting other peoples rights.
Never, or it's not free speech. By ******* definition.
I'm still irate that they'd play something like that on the radio.
No, you loved every second of it. If you didn't, you would have.....
CHANGED
THE
GODDAMN
CHANNEL.
Never, or it's not free speech. By ******* definition.
I'm still irate that they'd play something like that on the radio.
No, you loved every second of it. If you didn't, you would have.....
CHANGED
THE
GODDAMN
CHANNEL.
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trickybeck wrote:
Samira wrote:
Even so - even with the ability to switch channels or switch it off, there's a valid question of taste, of ethics, of a healthy public discourse.
Right, but her entire argument seemed to be framed around her panic attack response, rather than a dispassionate evaluation.
Yeah, true. I was sort of trying to lift the discussion beyond the personal. I should know better.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
katie wrote:
Came home all paranoid feeling like something was chasing me. Had to make sure I locked the door twice, had to check the house just to reassure myself nothing was in there.
/makes a note to put an ape mask on a broomstick for her next trip to Texas...
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