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#27 Feb 17 2009 at 7:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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The Irish brought the famine upon themselves because they didn't know fuck about growing potatos. True story.
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#28 Feb 17 2009 at 7:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe is they hadn't made moonshine out of their potatoes, they'd have had enough food to survive the famine.
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#29 Feb 17 2009 at 7:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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there's a push to break the second half into 1860-1942 and 1942-Present


I'd love to see this happen. I didn't get a clear picture of 1873 Panic until I was in college - I'd read about it, here and there, but with basically no context.
I used to hate that history class was the exact same sequence of years over and over every single grade. It's like each successive grade just pretends that the previous one didn't have a history class.

It'd be amazing if WW2-present wasn't only covered in the last 3 weeks of class before summer vacation.
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The Andeans managed to survive off of potatos for thousands of years without having to run crying from some famine. Maybe because they weren't retards and had mastered the art of growing the easiest friggin' crop on the planet.
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I used to hate that history class was the exact same sequence of years over and over every single grade. It's like each successive grade just pretends that the previous one didn't have a history class.
Just be happy you weren't learning about some terrorist Metis, or some chick who has chocolate named after her, or some stupid river valley. God, Canadian history was boring.
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I wouldn't care that the same material gets covered if teachers (and by extension teaching materials) assumed that you'd heard the basics before and jumped into a more in-depth discussion with each succeeding class.

As usual, though, they have to cater to the slow learners and the inattentive slobs who really don't remember that there was a Civil War.

I wonder what life is like for people like that. Every day must be a revelation. "You push a BUTTON and the TV comes on! Look!"

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I wonder what life is like for people like that. Every day must be a revelation. "You push a BUTTON and the TV comes on! Look!"

I've often wished to be this ignorant for just a day. Can you imagine how happy these people are? Memorizing new things happen every day for them.
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#34 Feb 17 2009 at 7:51 AM Rating: Default
My point is when you single out a class based on a characteristic, be it race or whatever, you cause division. It's this apologetic attitude by whites that is at the root of many of the problems in the black community. They don't need hand outs, they don't need people telling them how badly their great, great, great, great grandfather was treated. What they need is to focus on the future and where they are heading. I'm not saying ignore the past, merely keep it there.
#35 Feb 17 2009 at 7:57 AM Rating: Good
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Honestly, I have no idea how you manage.


Well, back when I was a wee lad, we used to do it like this: From 10 years old to 12 years old we do the cavemen and the rise of agriculture and civilisation, until the XVIIIth Century. From 13-14 we do XVIIth Century until 1914. From 14-15 we do XXth Century until today. Then from 15-16 we re-do the whole Caveman - Early XXth Century thing, and from 16-18 we re-do basically the XXth Century until today.

Writing all this (I had to check the actual French curiculum to remember), it's hard to see any logic. Except that the second time we go through History periods we do it more in-depth than the first time.
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The Andeans managed to survive off of potatos for thousands of years without having to run crying from some famine. Maybe because they weren't retards and had mastered the art of growing the easiest friggin' crop on the planet.
Says the Polock. Smiley: rolleyes

You want to learn to grow things, study up on the Scandinavian/Germen descendants that forged out the farmlands of the Midwest. Where would we be without Cheerios?
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#37 Feb 17 2009 at 8:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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There's Gay Pride Day.
Keyword.

Granted, the gay's are smart about it. They have all the gay pride celebrations spread out through June, so you could start off at the california pride celebrations, then slowly make your way across the country for a little over a month.

Besides, Gay Pride is a community organized series of events, it's not a nationwide observance of all things *****. Black history month is observed in schools and workplaces. Pride is not.

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My point is when you single out a class based on a characteristic, be it race or whatever, you cause division.
Most of history is broken down by race lines or class lines or ethnic lines or something. Most of our early American history is broken down between the white European settlers, the indigenous peoples and the black slaves. Certainly there were breakdowns within each group but ignoring those race characterisitics because someone today might get huffy about it seems asinine and catering to some people who, frankly, are acting like children.
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They don't need hand outs, they don't need people telling them how badly their great, great, great, great grandfather was treated.
I think you're going off the rails with "hand outs". This is about Black History Month. As for how badly their great(*X) grandfather was treated, why shouldn't it be told? I don't get why being honest about that part of our national past is derided as "apologizing". It's as though we need to sweep it under the rug to prove how mature we are and how much we've gotten over it.
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I'm not saying ignore the past, merely keep it there.
Yeah, maybe we can reserve the past for, I dunno, some sort of history month or something.
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On the surgeon's table, with a triple bypass.
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#40 Feb 17 2009 at 8:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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There's Gay Pride Day.
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Granted, the gay's are smart about it. They have all the gay pride celebrations spread out through June, so you could start off at the california pride celebrations, then slowly make your way across the country for a little over a month.

Besides, Gay Pride is a community organized series of events, it's not a nationwide observance of all things *****. Black history month is observed in schools and workplaces. Pride is not.

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I know. There's a huge difference anyway, in that basically only gays take part in pride day. I really just wanted to talk about Wonder Woman Guy.
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The Andeans managed to survive off of potatos for thousands of years without having to run crying from some famine. Maybe because they weren't retards and had mastered the art of growing the easiest friggin' crop on the planet.
Says the Polock. Smiley: rolleyes
Exactly. We have Casimir Pulaski Day here in Illinois entirely because there's a lot of noisy Poles who got their own holiday instead of crying over how come them black folks get a month Smiley: grin

'Sides, we didn't leave because of famines so much as because other folks kept putting flags in our country.
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Growing stuff in the Midwest is about as challenging as finding salt water in the Pacific. Smiley: tongue

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Dude. Listen to me. Get out more.

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I really just wanted to talk about Wonder Woman Guy.


Dude. Listen to me. Get out more.

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Dude. Listen to me. Get out more.

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Dude. Listen to me. Get out more.

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The longer we uphold any indication that there's a difference between the races, the longer it will be until there is no difference.


It's telling that you think that racial difference equals inequality. Race as a construction was specifically set up to be a hierarchy and is highly artificial, which is why there is so much ambiguity and confusion about where certain people belong. What we want is a country where we can recognize our cultural and ethnic differences without it being necessary to categorically discriminate against specific groups-- difficult to imagine since in and out groups are pretty entrenched in human societies, but the goals.

I think you'd want eventually that African-American History would be an integral part of history--it is telling how history is written by the people in power--on some level, this is a minor attempt to subvert that.

I wouldn't worry so much about this either:
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But year after year, Black History Month digs deeper and deeper into the obscure accomplishments of little-known people, and applauds them as significant based only on race.


I don't worry about Black, Asian-American, Hispanic or Women having months. What I worry about is that the rest of the year is rich, white, male history month(s}.

This **** we have now would be solved by Marxism. Just saying. Maybe it's time for the revolution.
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Would be nice if History was taught to show both the point of view of the winners and losers from the start of ones schooling. Too many myths are still used to teach how morally better our forefathers were in the early grades. Other then knowing my family was descended from Miles Standish, all I knew about him came from a poem by Longfellow, until I reach adulthood.

I'm lucky to have a mother who would tell us about now our government did things wrong and abused it's power while we were taught the standard ********* Then I also was given a chance to take a radical American History class in 10th grade were instead of using the standard textbook, we used original documents and newspaper articles from the time. It really opens your eyes to see history as it was seen by the people who lived it then and not from the victorious.

While it would be nice to add the fact that many white indenture servants were told at the end of their indenture, they would not be allow their freedom since they were the same color as those who were slaves, in the general history books, it should be included with how all new groups of immigrates were treated as they came to America.

I.E. the difference in how the first Mayflower settles treated the Natives compared to the Pilgrims that follow them. I been reading up on the history now that I have a better understanding of how my family went from Mass, through Ohio and ended up in Illinois.
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#48 Feb 17 2009 at 9:50 AM Rating: Excellent
Sounds like the experience in the US is different from that in Europe. o_O

For example, in 7th grade, we had to spend the month of February researching a black world figure and then doing a presentation to the rest of our class. I drew Archbishop Desmond Tutu from the hat. We were told not to make it pretty -- make it gritty, make it real, make it visceral. So I spend an intense month learning about apartheid in South Africa, and to this day I'm a bit leery of white people from that country (even though I'm a white American mutt myself.)

It was that way every year. February in Georgia history, US History, World history, and yes -- even AP European history -- meant redoing the history of each of those things from the ground up again, from an African perspective.

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My elementary school days in February consisted of learning about George Washington Carver, over, and over, and over...

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#51 Feb 17 2009 at 9:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm curious did you actually look into the effects of abolishing apartheid?


Oh, so you're a racist ******* in addition to being a general prick and conservative stooge?

I long ago stopped giving anything you said credence, but now I know you're beyond hope. Its people like you that bring America down. Go die in a fire.
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