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#1 Feb 13 2009 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090213/ap_on_bi_ge/blackwater_name_change wrote:
RALEIGH, N.C. – Blackwater Worldwide is still protecting U.S. diplomats in Iraq, but executives at the beleaguered security firm are taking their biggest step yet to put that work and the ugly reputation it earned the company behind them.

Blackwater said Friday it will no longer operate under the name that came to be known worldwide as a caustic moniker for private security, dropping the tarnished brand for a disarming and simple identity: Xe, which is pronounced like the letter "z."

It's a rare surrender for a company that cherished a brand name inspired by the dark-water swamps of northeastern North Carolina, one that survived another rebranding effort about a year ago, following a deadly shooting in Baghdad's Nisoor Square. The decision to give it up underscores how badly the Moyock-based company's brand was damaged by that incident and other security work in Iraq.

"They have established themselves as the bad guys," said Katy Helvenston, who sued the company following her son's death during a mission in Fallujah while working for Blackwater in 2004. "They've established such a horrible reputation. Why else would they change their name?"

Blackwater acknowledged last year in an interview with the The Associated Press the damage to its reputation had persuaded the company to focus on lines of business other than private security contracting.

The issue came to a head last month, when the State Department said it would not rehire Blackwater to protect its diplomats in Iraq after its current contract with the company expires in May. The company has one other major security contract, details of which are classified.

"It's not a direct result of a loss of (that) contract, but certainly that is an aspect of our work that we feel we were defined by," said spokeswoman Anne Tyrrell.

The company is also replacing its bear paw logo with a sleeker black-and-white graphic based on letters that make up the company's new name. In a note to employees, president Gary Jackson said the name change reflects the company's new focus, and he indicated Xe would not actively pursue new security business.

"This company will continue to provide personnel protective services for high-threat environments when needed by the U.S. government, but its primary mission will be operating our training facilities around the world," Jackson said.

It has expanded other businesses such as aviation support, recently building a fleet of 76 aircraft that it has deployed to such hotspots as West Africa and Afghanistan. The company got its start in training and continues to build up that business. Last year, some 25,000 civilians, law enforcement and military personnel attended a Blackwater class.

The company's changes aren't entirely voluntary. The 2007 shooting in Nisoor Square involving Blackwater guards left at least a dozen Iraqi civilians dead, infuriated politicians in Baghdad and Washington, triggered congressional hearings and increased calls that the company be banned from Iraq.

Late last year, prosecutors charged five of the company's contractors — but not Blackwater itself — with manslaughter and weapons violations. In January, Iraqi officials said they would not give the company a license to operate. The State Department responded by informing Blackwater it would not renew a contract that comprises a third of the company's nearly $1 billion in annual revenue.

"It would hurt us," company CEO Erik Prince said in an interview before losing the State Department deal. "It would not be a mortal blow, but it would hurt us."

Blackwater has rebranded before, introducing a new name — Blackwater Worldwide — and slight changes to its logo about a year ago. But Friday's announcement cuts ties entirely with a name created in 1997 when Prince and some of his former Navy SEAL colleagues launched the company.

Xe will cover the parent brand for the two-dozen subsidiaries, and none of those subsidiaries will retain the word "Blackwater" in their names.

Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky, chair of the Intelligence Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations and a longtime Blackwater critic, said the new name won't change the fact that its actions have resulted in the deaths of innocent civilians.

"Blackwater's notorious reputation will outlast its name," she said.


I hope they don't actually think this will change any opinions about their company. The people that hate them will just hate them by a new name.
#2 Feb 13 2009 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I've never even heard of them, but it is kinda silly for them to expect that a name change will invite some sort of cosmetic renaissance.
#3 Feb 13 2009 at 9:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've never even heard of them


You're sh'itting us!!

Even US media must have mentioned Blackwater once or twice in the last few years?

Have you heard of Iraq??
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#4 Feb 13 2009 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I've never even heard of them


You're sh'itting us!!

Even US media must have mentioned Blackwater once or twice in the last few years?

Have you heard of Iraq??


Smiley: laugh

To be fair, I'm pretty sure the only reason I've ever heard of Blackwater, is because I'm from NC. There ARE people in the world that don't ever watch TV or pick up a newspaper, Paulsol.
#5 Feb 13 2009 at 11:16 PM Rating: Good
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Sounds like we've stumbled across the same sort of people that formed the OJ Simpson jury pool.
#6 Feb 13 2009 at 11:57 PM Rating: Decent
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paulsol wrote:
You're sh'itting us!!

Even US media must have mentioned Blackwater once or twice in the last few years?

Have you heard of Iraq??


I live in Australia. Why would Australian media bother reporting on a US private military contractor except for one or two mentions within a week of that incident in 2007?
#7 Feb 14 2009 at 12:27 AM Rating: Good
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zepoodle wrote:
paulsol wrote:
You're sh'itting us!!

Even US media must have mentioned Blackwater once or twice in the last few years?

Have you heard of Iraq??


I live in Australia. Why would Australian media bother reporting on a US private military contractor except for one or two mentions within a week of that incident in 2007?
Erm. . . because they're part of the triggers for 9-11, 7-7 and Bali?

They've been major news in UK since before Fallujah.

In fairness to the Aussies, I suspect this may be because it's been covered on th news channels and not on the monster truck shows.
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#8 Feb 14 2009 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Erm. . . because they're part of the triggers for 9-11, 7-7 and Bali?

They've been major news in UK since before Fallujah.

In fairness to the Aussies, I suspect this may be because it's been covered on th news channels and not on the monster truck shows.


The Australian media doesn't report much out of Iraq except for stories about Australian soldiers. We're remarkably self-centered like that. We frequently overlook a dozen dead US soldiers to report about a digger who shot himself in the foot.

How'd they trigger Bali, though?
#9 Feb 14 2009 at 1:14 AM Rating: Good
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I live in Australia.


And I live in New Zealand. Its nice here. We have rain. Thats why its green and not brown and on fire all teh time, and its not full of stuff that wants to kill you.

I lurve NZ. We haz the intrawebz.
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#10 Feb 14 2009 at 1:14 AM Rating: Good
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zepoodle wrote:
How'd they trigger Bali, though?
Blackwater kills Muslims.
Blackwater = Western Imperialist Running Dogs
Islamists kill westerners

complicated isn't it? Smiley: rolleyes
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#11 Feb 14 2009 at 1:15 AM Rating: Good
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paulsol wrote:
not brown and on fire all teh time
Ari is so gonna boob suffocate you!
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#12 Feb 14 2009 at 1:20 AM Rating: Good
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She's gonna have to join the queue. Smiley: nod

Its valentines eve and Im only here atm,' cos 'her indoors', has taken the dog out for a leak. When she gets back we're gonna find out if the oysters we had for dinner earlier are all they're cracked up to be.........Smiley: sly
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#13 Feb 14 2009 at 1:30 AM Rating: Decent
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paulsol wrote:
And I live in New Zealand. Its nice here. We have rain. Thats why its green and not brown and on fire all teh time, and its not full of stuff that wants to kill you.

I lurve NZ. We haz the intrawebz.


We're just going to invade you once the bushfires force us out of Victoria.

Nobby wrote:
Blackwater kills Muslims.
Blackwater = Western Imperialist Running Dogs
Islamists kill westerners

complicated isn't it? Smiley: rolleyes


There were two Bali bombings. The one that killed eighty Australians occurred in 2002, prior to Blackwater's first Iraqi contract in 2003. If you're referring to the 2005 incident, that was awful too, but it's still a stretch to say that Blackwater "triggered" Jemaah Islamyiah's suicide attacks.

And apart from that, there are dozens of potential causes for Muslim extremism. You can't expect me to be automatically familiar with every last one, especially when they're only tangentially connected.

Edited, Feb 14th 2009 4:32am by zepoodle
#14 Feb 14 2009 at 3:59 AM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
paulsol wrote:
not brown and on fire all teh time
Ari is so gonna boob suffocate you!

Nobby you twit, we're PROUD it's brown and on fire all the time. Just like we're proud to have 9 of the top ten deadliest spiders and snakes in the world.

And just because you're a thespian snob, I'm going to quote you the WHOLE of our most sentimental patriotic poem.



The love of field and coppice,
Of green and shaded lanes.
Of ordered woods and gardens
Is running in your veins,
Strong love of grey-blue distance
Brown streams and soft dim skies
I know but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.

I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror -
The wide brown land for me!


A stark white ring-barked forest
All tragic to the moon,
The sapphire-misted mountains,
The hot gold hush of noon.
Green tangle of the brushes,
Where lithe lianas coil,
And orchids deck the tree-tops
And ferns the warm dark soil.

Core of my heart, my country!
Her pitiless blue sky,
When sick at heart, around us,
We see the cattle die -

But then the grey clouds gather,
And we can bless again
The drumming of an army,
The steady, soaking rain.

Core of my heart, my country!
Land of the Rainbow Gold,
For flood and fire and famine,
She pays us back threefold -

Over the thirsty paddocks,
Watch, after many days,
The filmy veil of greenness
That thickens as we gaze.

An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land -
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand -
Though earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.


~Dorothea MacKellar 1906
#15 Feb 14 2009 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
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We also have wombats. New Zealand don't got wombats.
#16 Feb 15 2009 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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Aripyanfar wrote:
I'm going to quote you the WHOLE of our most sentimental patriotic poem.


This here is a Wattle
The emblem of our land
You can stick it in a bottle
Or 'old it in yer 'and.

M. Python. 1971
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