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#27 Feb 13 2009 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
Allegory wrote:
1. Of course he'll be with the general prison population. No prison in the world has a special wing for child rapists.


Allegory wrote:
Child rapists are often restricted to separate prison wings with other vulnerable prisoners, such as police informants and former officers, for their own protection.


Smiley: dubious
#28 Feb 13 2009 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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The Great BrownDuck wrote:
Allegory wrote:
1. Of course he'll be with the general prison population. No prison in the world has a special wing for child rapists.


Allegory wrote:
Child rapists are often restricted to separate prison wings with other vulnerable prisoners, such as police informants and former officers, for their own protection.


Smiley: dubious


Allegory was just trying to cover his tracks and act like he didn't want the man in prison so that he could be violated repeatedly in order to fulfill Allegory's own sadistic pleasures that he accused the person who wanted him dead of.
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#29 Feb 13 2009 at 5:42 PM Rating: Good
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You know in this case, for the people who hold the tenet that "rape is worse than murder," it doesn't really apply in this case. The child was too young to experience any of the psychological trauma, and won't even remember it. It'd be like raping a comatose patient. So really, he's not such an extraordinary outlier of a bad guy, just a run-of-the-mill child abuser. Smiley: grin



I know you're semi-trolling with this, Tricky, but I do feel the need to address the bolded part because you're not the first person who has made this remark, many have made it with absolute sincerity.

While 8 days is too young to form explicit memories that are able to be recalled accurately, yes, it's NOT too young to experience trauma. There are a lot of documented cases about people experiencing inexplicable post-traumatic type symptoms that actually hearken back to events in infancy.

One psychologist I was interviewing for a paper I did in a class I took recalled a case about a woman whose severe claustrophobic reactions in certain situations eventually started to make sense when she learned about something that had happened as her mother gave birth to her back in the 50s. Basically, a poorly trained nurse kept insisting that the mother not push until the doctor arrived, and when the mother began involuntarily pushing the nurse kept shoving the baby back up inside the mother for close to 20 minutes, a very dangerous thing to do which nearly killed both mother and baby. Once the woman's therapy began to focus on dealing with that particular trauma, she finally began to make progress.

Another case involved a man having feelings of suffocation at certain triggers, such as his grandmother's presence/perfume, and the taste of ceremonial wine. Turns out at his bris when he was 8 days old, one of the old-fashioned traditions employed to quiet a crying infant as he's circumcised is to shove a handkerchief soaked in wine into his mouth, which is what his grandmother did.

So yeah, while an infant may not be able to accurately recall a traumatic event, a person CAN still have psychological troubles lingering from trauma in infancy.

In this particular case, I think the biggest problem is that one of this baby's earliest impressions of interaction with a supposed caretaker is going to be one of pain and danger, and the infant likely doesn't have the support system in place to receive enough solid bonding with her caretakers to offset that impression and help her bond properly, so there are likely going to be some pretty intense attachment issues unless she is placed into the custody of a family that will help her form healthy and trusting attachments (for the record, since there were people in the house while this happened, I absolutely believe this baby needs to be removed from that household permanently, because it is clearly not safe for her there.)
#30 Feb 13 2009 at 7:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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trickybeck wrote:
You know in this case, for the people who hold the tenet that "rape is worse than murder," it doesn't really apply in this case. The child was too young to experience any of the psychological trauma, and won't even remember it. It'd be like raping a comatose patient. So really, he's not such an extraordinary outlier of a bad guy, just a run-of-the-mill child abuser. Smiley: grin


He also fractured the skull.

With his *****.
#31 Feb 13 2009 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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The Great BrownDuck wrote:
Allegory wrote:
1. Of course he'll be with the general prison population. No prison in the world has a special wing for child rapists.

Allegory wrote:
Child rapists are often restricted to separate prison wings with other vulnerable prisoners, such as police informants and former officers, for their own protection.

Smiley: dubious

I thought the first quote was pretty clearly sarcastic.
#32 Feb 13 2009 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
The Great BrownDuck wrote:
Allegory wrote:
1. Of course he'll be with the general prison population. No prison in the world has a special wing for child rapists.

Allegory wrote:
Child rapists are often restricted to separate prison wings with other vulnerable prisoners, such as police informants and former officers, for their own protection.

Smiley: dubious

I thought the first quote was pretty clearly sarcastic.


You need to start typing "/sarcasm" after one of those posts. No-one here can tell when you're making a joke.
#33 Feb 14 2009 at 12:51 AM Rating: Good
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zepoodle wrote:
Allegory wrote:
The Great BrownDuck wrote:
Allegory wrote:
1. Of course he'll be with the general prison population. No prison in the world has a special wing for child rapists.

Allegory wrote:
Child rapists are often restricted to separate prison wings with other vulnerable prisoners, such as police informants and former officers, for their own protection.

Smiley: dubious

I thought the first quote was pretty clearly sarcastic.


You need to start typing "/sarcasm" after one of those posts. No-one here can tell when you're making a joke.


On occasion, Allegory will make quite an obvious one.
#34 Feb 14 2009 at 2:40 AM Rating: Decent
Darq wrote:
Now you see why I do not want my daughter living with her father EVER. I say they need to rape that guy repeatedly with an axle.


I'm not sure if you're saying "men are pigs" (well, infant-rapists) here or if you have particular reason to distrust the father of your child.

P.S. I love Allegory (unlike Tolkein).
#35 Feb 14 2009 at 3:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Kavekk wrote:
Darq wrote:
Now you see why I do not want my daughter living with her father EVER. I say they need to rape that guy repeatedly with an axle.


I'm not sure if you're saying "men are pigs" (well, infant-rapists) here or if you have particular reason to distrust the father of your child.


I read it as "DF has really horrible taste in boyfriends".

#36 Feb 14 2009 at 5:23 AM Rating: Decent
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zepoodle wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Darq wrote:
Now you see why I do not want my daughter living with her father EVER. I say they need to rape that guy repeatedly with an axle.


I'm not sure if you're saying "men are pigs" (well, infant-rapists) here or if you have particular reason to distrust the father of your child.


I read it as "DF has really horrible taste in boyfriends".



Well, it's not as though any of us have never read Nobby's posts. She's got a point.
#37 Feb 16 2009 at 2:26 AM Rating: Good
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Im thinking the alleged father and rapist must have been very very angry at the baby.
I also think even in jail with "protected custody" his life span is about a week.
#38 Feb 16 2009 at 6:13 AM Rating: Good
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Jonwin wrote:
Im thinking the alleged father and rapist must have been very very angry at the baby.
I also think even in jail with "protected custody" his life span is about a week.


Such short life span, is why I don't press the State to go after all the child support my ex owes me. Not having surgery yet he would be someones ***** the moment he is place in jail. Since the girls can forgive him for most of his faults, I still hold his denial of any verbal and emotional abuse against him.

Some things you just can't forgive.
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#39 Feb 16 2009 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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zepoodle wrote:
Allegory wrote:
The Great BrownDuck wrote:
Allegory wrote:
1. Of course he'll be with the general prison population. No prison in the world has a special wing for child rapists.

Allegory wrote:
Child rapists are often restricted to separate prison wings with other vulnerable prisoners, such as police informants and former officers, for their own protection.

Smiley: dubious

I thought the first quote was pretty clearly sarcastic.


You need to start typing "/sarcasm" after one of those posts. No-one here can tell when you're making a joke.


Smiley: schooled Sarcasm is funner when somebody doesn't get it, even in an online setting.

#40 Feb 16 2009 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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#41 Feb 16 2009 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
Sometimes I wish we were more like China.

Referring to the execution deal.

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