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#1 Feb 08 2009 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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For all the Pro-Israeli US media bias and all that, I haven't heard much of anything about this story (except for one story that popped up on Fox just now). The UN agency which was supplying food and supplies into Gaza has suspended all activities following several days worth of theft (at gunpoint) of food & supplies by Hamas.
On Feb 4, the UN Relief Works Agency wrote:
At 1430 on 3 February over 3,500 blankets and 406 food parcels were confiscated from a distribution store at Beach Camp in Gaza by police personnel. This took place after UNRWA staff had earlier refused to hand over the aid supplies to the Hamas-run Ministry of Social Affairs. The police subsequently broke into the warehouse and seized the aid by force. The aid was due to be distributed to five hundred families in the area.

UNRWA condemns in the strongest terms the confiscation of its aid supplies and has demanded that it is returned immediately. UNRWA has a strict system of monitoring aid delivery and ensuring that its assistance reaches only the intended beneficiaries. Our officials were on the ground overseeing the delivery of our aid and taking all possible steps to avoid its diversion.
On Feb 6, the UNRWA wrote:
Jerusalem (UNRWA): The United Nations Relief and Works Agency, UNRWA, has suspended all imports of aid into the Gaza Strip following the confiscation of hundreds of tons of food aid.

During the night of 05 Feb 10 truckloads of flour and rice were taken from the Palestinian side of the Kerem Shalom Crossing into Gaza. They had been imported from Egypt for collection by UNRWA today. The food was taken away by trucks contracted by the Ministry of Social Affairs. Two hundred metric tons of rice and one hundred metric tons of flour were taken.
According to the Chinese Xinhua news agency, Hamas says that the issue has been resolved. Can't say if that's right or wrong but they're the only ones I saw claiming so and the UNRWA site hasn't been updated to reflect this change of circumstances. Got to love their excuse for taking the food at gunpoint though. "We... umm... figured they might not know which food was going where so, uh, we were helping them!" The most recent story on al-Jazeera says that the suspension of relief will continue until the trucks and food are completely returned.

Anyway, like I said, I was just mildly surprised to see this story getting essentially zero press. Or maybe I just missed it (which I mean sincerely).

Edited, Feb 8th 2009 1:15pm by Jophiel
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#2 Feb 08 2009 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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CNN apparently ran a story about it, though I didn't find it until after reading your post. Doesn't seem like Hamas' response is getting much play either. It's a shame they're having to suspend aid, but I doubt anyone can claim to be surprised it happened.
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CNN and BBC ran small pieces about the theft on the 4th. I think the Satilite launch by Iran overshadowed alot of it. Because all things considered, Iran is a lot more relevent threat at this point than Hamas is.
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CNN apparently ran a story about it
How did CNN turn into a cannotlinkto site? Smiley: laugh

The CNN story didn't come up when I hit the "Show all stories" thingie on Google News but it might have been buried or some such. I certainly find it more credible that there were smaller stories on it that I missed than an attempt to suppress the story or anything.

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#6 Feb 08 2009 at 12:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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While they were the democratically elected party in the last Palestinian elections, I hold them in utter contempt.

Yes, I will continue to rant if Israel continue to disproportionately zap innocent families, but I'm in no doubt about Hamas's culpability for the current starvation and disease in Palestine.

They keep poking the wasps' nest, then vanish into the shadows, leaving the people they claim to defend eating phosphor. Now they've managed to alienate one of the few agencies that put itself in harm's way to feed and care for the innocents, even under Israeli bombardment.

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Nuke the Gaza strip already, nobody gets it.
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At this point Israel doesn't need nukes. All they need are sufficient number of buldozers and combat engineers. Their "bulldoze everything that could possibly be used to shoot a rocket at us" doctrine is working quite well. That is one of the reason Egypt and Lebanon have been vocally condeming the Hamas rocket attacks. I'm pretty sure Israel informed them that they were going to condem the situation, or they were going to find several hundred thousand displaced palistinian refugees headed towards their boarders. And since the "legitimate" government of the palestinian Authority condoned and even ordered the attacks, Israel would be fully justified under the Geneva convention to occupy and even conquer the territory.
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#11 Feb 09 2009 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
It was an item in local news a couple of days ago, including Hamas' apologies and promises that they would return the aid goods.

No update on if they really did do that though.

But ultimately not really surprising I suppose, I mean that it happened.
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You're kidding right? You really think the msm wants to report on a story where hamas holds un peacekeepers at gun point and steals their food?


Well yeah. The media loves to show how the palistinians are all just terrorists and don't deserve to have their own little state there even though they were there first(if you don't count ancient history).

I feel that what's going on over there is one of the worst examples of religion based stupidity. Some extremist blows himself up and kills a few people, Israel bombs a town and kills many times more. Why does this seem to make sense to so many people? It doesn't to me. If the entire world worked that way, you could kill a man for accidentally bumping into you on a sidewalk. Jeez...


Both sides are wrong, they need to work something out, or just finish wiping each other off the face of the goddamn planet already. I'm going to go look up the history of this...
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You really think the msm wants to report on a story where hamas holds un peacekeepers at gun point and steals their food?
Do I think the media is supposedly less likely to report on instances that make Israel look good and Hamas bad? Sure, I accept that that's the prevailing logic. Hence the thread.


Try and keep up.
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For all the Pro-Israeli US media bias and all that, I haven't heard much of anything about this story (except for one story that popped up on Fox just now).
I pretty much had a news free weekend, but I saw nothing about this on NPR this am. Going back and actually doing a 'search' revealed nothing either. I'd not attribute it to media bias more on simply apathy about this conflict. Do we care?

I've seen very little in the news of late about the Hamas/Israel struggle at all. If it wasn't for Paulsol's reminders one might almost imagine this world peaceful. Smiley: wink

...or, maybe because this particular issue was resolved before stories could even go out.

Anyway an update;

Irishtimes wrote:
THE UN Relief and Works Agency did not resume shipments of food and medical supplies into the Gaza Strip yesterday, although the Hamas-led government said on Saturday that a crisis over confiscation of aid supplies had been resolved.

The agency’s spokesman, Christopher Gunness, said “all the aid has not been returned” and that consequently, “shipments will not resume”. Distribution of food to the agency’s 750,000 refugee recipients would continue until “supplies run out”.

However, he added: “Unless we receive three truckloads of pallets of nylon bags, we cannot make distributions after tomorrow [Monday]”, because there will be no containers for flour, lentils and other items imported in bulk.

Israel has banned the transfer of nylon bags into Gaza, along with goods not on lists of essential humanitarian items.
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Ok, I was wrong, they were both there first, but, doesn't change the fact that both sides are, and have always been, wrong.
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#17 Feb 09 2009 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
I don't know, the story was in the Independent, who is not the most pro-Israeli newspaper ever.

On the other hand, I haven't seen much serious reporting about the Israeli election. Not many people are reporting that, for example, Netanyahu is planting a tree on the Golan Heights whilst saying that his son will sit beneath this tree with his grand-children, with all that it implies. Or that the king-maker in the election is the racist and semi-facist Avigdor Lieberman. That both he and Netanyahu favour the continuing expansion of the illegal settlements in the West bank, or that, in Lieberman's words, that Israel should treat Gaza as Russia treated Chechnya.

I don't know, I still think the media is ridiculously biased towards Israel. There might be the odd story, like the Hamas one you linked, which is not reported as much as it should. But when was the last time you saw an article about illegal settlements still being built on the West Bank? When was the last time you read an article discussing the legality of the Security Fence? Of the Gaza blockade? About settlers attacking Palestinians and destroying their property? Or that this behaviour is pretty endemic?

I appreciate that Hamas holding the UN at gunpoint is a cool story, but there are lots of illegal and immoral acts committed by Israelis that are very rarely reported on.
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I don't know, the story was in the Independent, who is not the most pro-Israeli newspaper ever.

On the other hand, I haven't seen much serious reporting about the Israeli election. Not many people are reporting that, for example, Netanyahu is planting a tree on the Golan Heights whilst saying that his son will sit beneath this tree with his grand-children, with all that it implies. Or that the king-maker in the election is the racist and semi-facist Avigdor Lieberman. That both he and Netanyahu favour the continuing expansion of the illegal settlements in the West bank, or that, in Lieberman's words, that Israel should treat Gaza as Russia treated Chechnya.

I don't know, I still think the media is ridiculously biased towards Israel. There might be the odd story, like the Hamas one you linked, which is not reported as much as it should. But when was the last time you saw an article about illegal settlements still being built on the West Bank? When was the last time you read an article discussing the legality of the Security Fence? Of the Gaza blockade? About settlers attacking Palestinians and destroying their property? Or that this behaviour is pretty endemic?

I appreciate that Hamas holding the UN at gunpoint is a cool story, but there are lots of illegal and immoral acts committed by Israelis that are very rarely reported on.


I saw a documentary about that Lieberman yesterday, things are really not going to improve if he gets to power. I suppose people will see what Israel without restraint really is at that point. Considering there's an estimate that he could get a third of the seats, this time might come fairly soon.

It's also not often that news shows Israelis on the streets chanting "Death to all Arabs". That tends to be reserved for the Palestinians.
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I still think the media is ridiculously biased towards Israel.
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I appreciate that Hamas holding the UN at gunpoint is a cool story, but there are lots of illegal and immoral acts committed by Israelis that are very rarely reported on.
If you accept the former than the latter shouldn't have been any surprise. For what it's worth, I've seen a "front page" article on the Israeli elections every day on Google News for days now. The current headliner sublinks to 1,415 articles. Without playing tit-for-tat, I was aware of most of the stories in your links via my day-to-day news following.

Apparently the UN is now saying that the Hamas finally returned all their swag so aid can begin flowing again.
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There might be the odd story, like the Hamas one you linked, which is not reported as much as it should.
Now that you mention it, I first read about the UN reversing its story on the UN school airstrike in the Israeli press about a week before I saw it mentioned in the American media -- on Fox, no less! Smiley: wink2

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For all the Pro-Israeli US media bias and all that, I haven't heard much of anything about this story (except for one story that popped up on Fox just now).


Hard to believe. People in a chaotic war zone committing theft after nearly all infrastructure has been destroyed? How is this not the lead on every evening news cast in the country?? Seriously, though, people in the US don't give a fuck about Palestinians. It's not that they want them to be killed, they just do not care whatsoever. Israel, on the other hand is worth running stories about for obvious reasons.

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People in a chaotic war zone committing theft after nearly all infrastructure has been destroyed?
Government. The government in Palestine commiting theft of the supplies supposed to be given to the people.

Get it straight Smiley: smile
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Only when it suits the pro-israel narrative. Rest of the time they are a bunch of radicals illegitimately clinging to power.


But you are right, they are the democratically elected government. Something the U.S and most of the world does not recognize.
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The government in Palestine commiting theft of the supplies supposed to be given to the people.


Right, gotcha, so it's the US GOVERNMENT that rapes or murders people when US soldiers do. Good to know.
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Only when it suits the pro-israel narrative. Rest of the time they are a bunch of radicals illegitimately clinging to power.
I've never claimed they were anything but the elected government but... yeah, sure. I guess.
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Right, gotcha, so it's the US GOVERNMENT that rapes or murders people when US soldiers do. Good to know.
I have no problem holding the US Government responsible when its soldiers rape and murder, sure.

"Hey, it wasn't the Army's fault that their soldiers raped and murdered your family! They're just... you know... some random dudes! Can't go blaming the US government for that!"

I'm sure that washes just swimmingly Smiley: laugh
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I have no problem holding the US Government responsible when its soldiers rape and murder, sure.

"Hey, it wasn't the Army's fault that their soldiers raped and murdered your family! They're just... you know... some random dudes! Can't go blaming the US government for that!"

I'm sure that washes just swimmingly


So you didn't mean to imply that the actions that led to the UN suspending aid were sanctioned or representative of Hammas? My mistake, Gbaji, I just assumed that wast the entire point of this otherwise completely content free thread. Or did you mean the US Government sanctions the rape and murder of innocents?

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Ah, that.

Sure, I have no problem suspecting that the Ministry of Social Affairs was fully aware and sanctioned what happened. Their "Gee, it was an accident!" excuse for the truck confiscation and non-response to the confiscation-at-gunpoint of the warehouse supplies notwithstanding. Maybe once we start hearing about some arrests of the Ministry of Social Affairs policemen and truck drivers who were just independent looters in the chaos of war, I'll have a different opinion on the subject. After all, Hamas managed to return all the stuff so they must have a good idea on who had it, right?

So, yeah. Palestinian government.

I don't particularly suspect that the US Army is sending the boys out on rape & murder patrols but maybe someone has reason for me to think otherwise.
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