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#1 Jan 15 2009 at 5:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Going by a previous poll I posted, most posters here will remember a time when the only phones that most people had were landlines. Information was delivered by letter and by word of mouth.

We now live in a digital age where people can communicate in mere seconds to all sectors of the globe. This has lead to an explosion of glorious intellect being able to share knowledge in amongst the spam and scam.

Businesses thrive on Email, businesses are reduced without it. But why am I posting this? I was thinking, how would I now survive without my connection to the internet? What if the internet was cut off, it dissapeared. What if no one had it? I would be unemployed. My mobile phone would stop being my portable laptop. My laptop would become a very advanced word processor and I would be forced to call people on my landline (which would truly shock BT who have seen me make on average one call a year).

But without the internet, would I be happier? Would the lack of Email mean I would need to talk more. Would I need to engage more with those around me and be just that little less lazy. Would the slowing down of the world at large result in a more relaxed outlook on life from the manic leaping from one challenge to the next. I do wonder.

I have seen blackouts 2 times in 5 years. Times when all but the phones stopped working. 2 days when I was forced to live like my parents did, in the dark ages Smiley: lol It was actually very nice, very calming. I seem to remember both days involved the pub, wine, talking and a hangover.

As I become ever more entwined into the connected world of the wireless revolution. As my phone becomes a secondary net connection. As I am literally on-line 24 hours a day and unable to escape the constant Email stream and connections from social and business sites, I wonder am I losing something in the rush? Bluetooth headsets looking ever more like attachments from Dr Whos Cybermen.

I'm sure some of you here will look down and start saying things like "in my day" and "you should feel lucky" but part of me wonders if we are racing too fast into a Borg like world. The worst part being, I am part of creating that world. Scary huh? Smiley: dubious

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#2 Jan 15 2009 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
No Internet to me, makes it all more boring. Maybe it's because I'm 22 and grew in it though.

I already talk a lot to people face to face, hang out together and such. But what about that friend in Osaka that helps me with my Japanese? How would I ask her questions that only her can answer? Mail? Not quick enough, especially for Japan. And my other friend who moved in Japan to study her Japanese and gain important life experience. I couldn't get easy news from her either.

I really wouldn't want to live without the Internet, its became a very important part of my life and also allowed me to grow closer to some people at work and such. Things are always easier to say when you're not in front of the person, right?
#3 Jan 15 2009 at 7:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I embrace technology. I recognize that it has an effect on my life, and i'm sure without computers I would have found another hobby (probably trying to invent computers to be honest...) but I like to think that I am able to seperate from it enough that it is not a detrement.

For me, technology (keyboards in particular) is a necessity. I have a slight bith defect in both hands where the bone from the wrist to the base of my thumb is slightly too long. It basically means I have a very difficult time writeing with a pencil. My handwriting is pretty much illegable, not for lack of trying. I was using a typewriter to write book reports in 1st grade, and later that year, my first computer, A commodore 128. Without at least the typewriter, I probably would have had severe difficulties throughout school.

I find I can disconnect at the drop of a hat if I need to. I choose to remain connected most of the time, but if I need solitude, I leave the phones at home and head out into the unknown, blissfully unaware.

I think that the more we integrate technology into our societies, the better our quality of life will become, but at the same time, the more careful we need to be of abuse. Privacy laws need to be iron clad, inviolate, and with real teeth behind them. Our justice department in the US has gotten lazy. They didn't need warrentless wiretapping to make a case, they just took the easy route, at the cost of our moral high ground.

I dunno. I think we would be less happy as a planet without the internet. Besides, without the internet how would I annoy people in Europe???
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#4 Jan 15 2009 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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No Internet and computers make Kirby something something..


More seriously: I'd be ****** without the ability to communicate with my friends and family over the internet. I guard my internet with my life mind.
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#5 Jan 15 2009 at 11:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm looking forward to Jophiel's response.

As I understand it, he posts here by telegram and fax, and plays Everquest by mail.
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#6 Jan 16 2009 at 1:21 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Besides, without the internet how would I annoy people in Europe???


Elect Bush to a third term? Or you looking for "annoying on a more personal level" kind of thing.

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I'm looking forward to Jophiel's response.

As I understand it, he posts here by telegram and fax, and plays Everquest by mail.


No need to include the by mail part. Just the fact that it's Everquest makes it archaic enough. Smiley: sly
#7 Jan 16 2009 at 4:19 AM Rating: Good
I have mixed feelings about this. I often think that we have become slaves to all this modern technology, that good old fashioned methods of communication are being lost, and that the "personal and affective" is being replaced by the "impersonal and effecient". Take mail. No one ever writes letters anymore. Every mail you receive these days is either bills or spam. It's a bit sad. The closer you are to "tech-centres", like big cities, the less you chit-chat. The less you interact. Other people are just incoveniences.

And then when you leave all this tech behind... fuck, you don't miss it at all. I don't, anyway. When I'm travelling, I don't miss WOW, or emails, or using my mobile, or TV, or this forum. Well, maybe this forum a little. But all the rest, bah. I never once thouht "Oh, I wish I could send this video email through my 3G IPhone to Fotolog so that my Flogger tribe can post comments on it".

So I don't know. I think it's good to relise the virtual world is, well, virtual. As long as you don't get too caught up in it, and realise that all the tech in the world won't fundamentally make you happy/better/effective, I guess it's ok.
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#8 Jan 16 2009 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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While I love my technology, I think I would be much happier if it didn't exist. The problem with technology is it allows instant transfer of information, so the expectation is that information will be used immediately.

Without technology you have a task that you complete within a certain period of time before moving on to the next. With technology you have constant interruption with tasks that are expected to be attended to immediately simply because communication is immediate.

Email for example actually makes people LESS efficient. It creates a lazy atmosphere. People don't take time to compile proper instructions because they know you can get back to them instantly with any questions.
#9 Jan 16 2009 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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#10 Jan 16 2009 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
I miss my computer sometimes.I didn't before I had limited Internet access on my phone.

Actually, I didn't have Internet access or a phone at all for the larger part of 2008. It was okay.

Apart from these forums, most of my communications are done via fax, post and personally showing up somewhere.
I also write letters to a few people on here.


I don't know. The only thing I'm missing out on because of the waste of time that is the Internet is books. And I'm still reading more than most people.
And the letters I write aren't 20+ pages anymore, but that's probably for the better.
#11 Jan 16 2009 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
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While I certainly enjoy technology, when I'm not around it I tend to get used to it after a day. And I dont really miss it all that much. Cell phones and other things are great for emergencies, the net is great to keep up to date with friends. But none of it is necessary.
#12 Jan 16 2009 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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Lady DSD wrote:
While I certainly enjoy technology, when I'm not around it I tend to get used to it after a day. And I dont really miss it all that much. Cell phones and other things are great for emergencies, the net is great to keep up to date with friends. But none of it is necessary.
I'm going to have to agree with DSD. I'd rather have it, but without, I'd get by just fine. I'd be screwed without a vhs/dvd player though.
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#13 Jan 16 2009 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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When Ray and I first got married and moved away from my family and friends, I worte letters non stop because I was so homesick. A few of my cousins wrote back and we had a nice correspondence going on. Then one of my cousins was "elected" to inform me that email would be easier for everyone to stay in touch. So I started using email. And then afte awhile, another cousin was "elected" to inform me that MySpace would make it easier.

Now the running joke is everyone MySpaces or Facebooks each other, but yet we never see each other. And I'm back in San Diego.
#14 Jan 16 2009 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
We had an internet outage once. I had to call the cable company. My first thought was, "I'll look the number up online."

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I love the internet, but I could live without it. Things at work would be much, much harder, but they could still get done.

Not having a cell phone would, again, make things less convenient, but I find myself wishing that they weren't so damn popular. I went to see The Wizard of Oz last night at TPAC and the lady sitting next to me texted someone through practically the whole thing. Why would you spend a lot of money to go to a play only to send text messages through the whole thing??

And I find it sad to see a twelve year old sitting in a restaurant with their mother while their mother talkes on her cell phone to someone instead of actually interacting with their child.
#15 Jan 16 2009 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Lady GwynapNud wrote:
Going by a previous poll I posted, most posters here will remember a time when the only phones that most people had were landlines. Information was delivered by letter and by word of mouth.
Yes, most of my life has been spent without computers and/or internet.

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would I be happier?
You might, temporarily, feel sad, confused, bored, cut-off, uninformed etc, but you'd get over it. Something else would fill up your time and thoughts.

Unless of course you were the only one without internet and everyone else had it...so you became isolated from all peoples. I don't think that would lead to much happiness.

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Would the lack of Email mean I would need to talk more.
Well probably, but also you'd be likely to better prioritize the information that you felt you needed to get and give.
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Would I need to engage more with those around me and be just that little less lazy.
Well now, my hubby and I discuss this all the time. He claims I ignore him when I play games. But, I counter I ignore him just as much if I'm reading a good book or watching a good movie. He ignores me no matter what he's doing.
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Would the slowing down of the world at large result in a more relaxed outlook on life from the manic leaping from one challenge to the next. I do wonder.
Im not sure I follow you here. What does a world slowing down mean, as, obviously we can't stop time.

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part of me wonders if we are racing too fast into a Borg like world. The worst part being, I am part of creating that world. Scary huh? Smiley: dubious

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Smiley: tinfoilhatI don't see borginess as a futuristic threat as much as physical laziness - like the roly-poly people in Wall.E Smiley: grin. That's not really much of different problem than the couch potatoe syndrome though and, I think, surmountable.

The internet is just another tool. It can be a tremendous resource or can be abused - like anything else.

The thing is, its here, there is no going back...only onward to bigger and better internetz!!
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