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#52 Jan 12 2009 at 2:50 PM Rating: Good
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Chicken breasts are never eaten in my family. My family is all about succulent, plump, juicy thighs.
#53 Jan 12 2009 at 2:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Chicken breasts are never eaten in my family. My family is all about succulent, plump, juicy thighs.
They're nice if stuffed with mediterranean or arabic fillings.

Butterfly them and cover with fresh herbs (sage, dill, tarragon) and dried figs, olives, almonds and a couple of anchovies (all ingredients finely chopped). Roll them up in sausage-shaped parcels using Pancetta or any thin bacon. Wrap in cling-film and poach in simmering water for 15 mins (uber juicy) then take off cling-film and fry off in butter. Nom nom nom.

But I'm with you though - thighs, on the bone have more tasty meat and make any sauce/gravy richer.

Edited, Jan 12th 2009 6:07pm by Nobby
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#54 Jan 12 2009 at 3:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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any thin bacon. Wrap in cling-film and poach in simmering water for 15 mins (uber juicy) then take off cling-film and fry off in butter.


Sounds lovely, but I imagine you could replace chicken with any edible substance, and wrap it bacon and then fry it in butter and it would be delicious. That's why I don't **** around, I just fry bacon in butter, and drink the delicious juice.

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#55 Jan 12 2009 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
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any thin bacon. Wrap in cling-film and poach in simmering water for 15 mins (uber juicy) then take off cling-film and fry off in butter.


Sounds lovely, but I imagine you could replace chicken with any edible substance, and wrap it bacon and then fry it in butter and it would be delicious.
Logical, but doesn't work with live eels or choc-chip cookies.

Who knew. Smiley: dubious
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#56 Jan 12 2009 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not saying everyone stopped buying battery chickens. Just that it became a PR disaster for supermarkets to use them as a promotional attraction. They no longer subsidise them, production levels fall (along with profit margins for battery farmers), and the spiral of inflation hits the poultry industry.

There is still a market for battery chickens (or eggs at least). When I was working in the kitchens at a local hotel, they told me how they only use free-range eggs for sunny-side up fried, as the yoaks are a brighter yellow and look more appealing. All scrambled eggs come from battery farmed chickens.

I always asked for fried in the morning, or ate befor I came to work.
#57 Jan 12 2009 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
Had a similar experience with ground beef last week. Went in to get a 1 lb package and they were almost $4. Beef and corn is all we do in this state, seeing it above $2 a lb is shocking to say the least.
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Nobby wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Chicken breasts are never eaten in my family. My family is all about succulent, plump, juicy thighs.
They're nice if stuffed with mediterranean or arabic fillings.

Butterfly them and cover with fresh herbs (sage, dill, tarragon) and dried figs, olives, almonds and a couple of anchovies (all ingredients finely chopped). Roll them up in sausage-shaped parcels using Pancetta or any thin bacon. Wrap in cling-film and poach in simmering water for 15 mins (uber juicy) then take off cling-film and fry off in butter. Nom nom nom.

But I'm with you though - thighs, on the bone have more tasty meat and make any sauce/gravy richer.

Edited, Jan 12th 2009 6:07pm by Nobby



I usually boil chicken thighs in vinegar and soy sauce with diced fresh ginger and garlic. The resulting sauce is awesome over rice.
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#59 Jan 12 2009 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I think my worst pisode with chicken (and beef) was last year where I was trying to bulk up, so upped my protein and carbs.

My meals were basically chicken breast or steak with rice or pasta. No sauce. tasted like poo, but did the job I guess. Wouldn't do it again.
#60 Jan 12 2009 at 10:36 PM Rating: Good
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Logical, but doesn't work with live eels or choc-chip cookies.


You just aren't using enough bacon.
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#61 Jan 12 2009 at 10:44 PM Rating: Decent
Out of curiosity, what's the problem with chickens eating animal protein? They are not herbivores. You see chickens out in a yard scratching... they're trying to find insects, which decidedly qualify as "animal protein".

So: chickens eating animal protein is fine. Pigs eating animal protein is somewhat less tolerable (but again, omnivores). Any other meat animal should not be fed animal protein. (Obviously I'm not including things like alligator as "meat animals".)
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Out of curiosity, what's the problem with chickens eating animal protein?


Nothing.

Where it all goes horribly wrong is when you feed all the absolutely worst reclaimed bits of animal, the bits even ******* wont touch, back to the animals as feed. If you reprocess all the left over bits of the animals after slaughter back to the the next 'batch' of animals as is done routinely in factory farming, then any diseases and wotnot just get caught in a closed loop, leading to some pretty ghastly consequences.

With the organic method of farming, it takes chickens several months to mature enough for slaughter. With intensve methods, that is cut to about 29 days. Draw your own conclusions as to what effect that has on the quality of meat.

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#63 Jan 12 2009 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Out of curiosity, what's the problem with chickens eating animal protein?


Nothing.

Where it all goes horribly wrong is when you feed all the absolutely worst reclaimed bits of animal, the bits even Mcsh*te wont touch, back to the animals as feed. If you reprocess all the left over bits of the animals after slaughter back to the the next 'batch' of animals as is done routinely in factory farming, then any diseases and wotnot just get caught in a closed loop, leading to some pretty ghastly consequences.

With the organic method of farming, it takes chickens several months to mature enough for slaughter. With intensve methods, that is cut to about 29 days. Draw your own conclusions as to what effect that has on the quality of meat.

You are what you eat.
I'll agree with that - but the impression I was getting was that some people sheeple were like "ohmahgod if you feed chickens animal protein it is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD". Which is, of course, **********

(Besides, the "reclaimed bits" are what hot dogs are supposed to be made out of. How are you going to keep up with demand for hot dogs if you keep feeding it back to the animals?)

Oh, and: chickens raised for meat are generally ready for slaughter at 8-12 weeks, not the 4-week figure you're giving. (With organic and/or free-range, it tends to be 16-20 weeks if memory serves.)
#64 Jan 13 2009 at 12:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Out of curiosity, what's the problem with chickens eating animal protein?
Chickens should not be eating Cow brain, sorry.

Apart from the obvious health risk, they taste bland aswell.
#65 Jan 13 2009 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Out of curiosity, what's the problem with chickens eating animal protein?
Chickens should not be eating Cow brain, sorry.
If the cow was healthy, why not? :-D (Agreed on the bland part that I snipped, though; then again, that's why I'd rather have duck, but it runs about twice what chicken does around here.)
#66 Jan 13 2009 at 1:21 AM Rating: Good
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And here we see how much it pays to be an Inuit.

If I was still living in Holman, NWT in good ol' Canada, I'd be living on a much healthier diet.
Eating mostly self-procured Caribou, Musk-ox, Arctic Char, Geese, etc.

Too bad, it's just too damn bad I moved down to Alberta.






Really though, <3 Alberta.
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#67 Jan 13 2009 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Eating Geese
Once again this is probably a side-effect of factory-farmed meat, but god damn goose is greasy.
#68 Jan 13 2009 at 1:28 AM Rating: Good
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Nope, Goose is damn greasy even up north.

It's not one of my favorites, but meh.
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#69 Jan 13 2009 at 3:00 AM Rating: Good
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Chicken rose in price for me after I watched chicken run with Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall. I just cannot stand the thought of eating a chicken that suffered in its short life by eating itself so plump it cannot move Smiley: frown

Now I only buy Freerange (expensive) and so its a premium meat for me Smiley: dubious

I tend to live on Salmon and Prawns these days Smiley: smile Perhaps its been a blessing in disguise?


That's awful...I can't eat salmon since I found out they mate for life.

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That's why I always eat em in pairs.
#70 Jan 13 2009 at 4:06 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, chicken got so expensive they've begun substituting those cheap a$$ "C"s for those tasty "S"s! Can you believe it, tarv???

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#71 Jan 13 2009 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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I usually boil chicken thighs in vinegar and soy sauce with diced fresh ginger and garlic. The resulting sauce is awesome over rice.


Dude, are you Filipino because that's the recipe for Chicken Adobo. I make that at least once a week in my house. It's a must for the kids. I have to add in lots of black pepper and usually a 6 cloves of chopped garlic. Don't forget the bay leaf.
#72 Jan 13 2009 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Yep, that's the recipe, but I'm not Filipino. I found it on the net and it's one of the few "exotic" dishes that my overly-picky children will eat.
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#73 Jan 13 2009 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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I'm eating chicken tonight Smiley: smile

I was so good today, my willpower held out and I did not eat one single item that contained chocolate. Hoping my addiction is under control ...
#74 Jan 13 2009 at 10:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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GwynapNud the Eccentric wrote:
I'm eating chicken tonight Smiley: smile

I was so good today, my willpower held out and I did not eat one single item that contained chocolate. Hoping my addiction is under control ...


I haven't yet either. It's very difficult. Be strong.

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Kirby wrote:
And here we see how much it pays to be an Inuit.

If I was still living in Holman, NWT in good ol' Canada, I'd be living on a much healthier diet.
Eating mostly self-procured Caribou, Musk-ox, Arctic Char, Geese, etc.

Too bad, it's just too damn bad I moved down to Alberta.

Yes, It is too bad.
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#76 Jan 13 2009 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
KingJohn wrote:
I usually boil chicken thighs in vinegar and soy sauce with diced fresh ginger and garlic. The resulting sauce is awesome over rice.


Dude, are you Filipino because that's the recipe for Chicken Adobo. I make that at least once a week in my house. It's a must for the kids. I have to add in lots of black pepper and usually a 6 cloves of chopped garlic. Don't forget the bay leaf.
It's also the basis of the Goan dish from India "Vindaloo"
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