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#1 Jan 10 2009 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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I mean...really... Smiley: laugh

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28573074/?GT1=43001

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Palin did her venting Monday with John Ziegler, a conservative radio talk show host turned filmmaker, who posted excerpts online to promote the sale of a forthcoming DVD titled "Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected." "I think this woman was assassinated by the media," he said yesterday.


I don't think she realizes how much of a tool she made herself out to be the few times she was even ALLOWED to talk to the media during the campaign. Smiley: rolleyes
#2 Jan 10 2009 at 6:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Palin also complained that Katie Couric and Tina Fey "exploited" her. Guess she forgot that she appeared on SNL alongside Fey back when it was beneficial to her campaign...

#3 Jan 10 2009 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think she realizes how much of a tool she made herself out to be the few times she was even ALLOWED to talk to the media during the campaign.


I kinda almost feel bad for her. I don't think she realizes how much she was being used by the McCain group. But maybe she does realize it, maybe the naivete is just a show?
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#4 Jan 10 2009 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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Sir Exodus wrote:
I don't think she realizes how much of a tool she made herself out to be the few times she was even ALLOWED to talk to the media during the campaign.


I kinda almost feel bad for her. I don't think she realizes how much she was being used by the McCain group. But maybe she does realize it, maybe the naivete is just a show?


She realizes it, and she didn't let them use her properly- apparently she developed a mind of her own. And not a very good one at that. She's 'tarded her own image in mostly her own control - and complaining about media exploitation while she was running for Vice President shows how free she is just to ride the coattails of victimization. Poor Palin.
#5 Jan 10 2009 at 11:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I like how she says that if she had been on the Democratic ticket, the media would have gone easier on her. Yeah, that's it.
#6 Jan 10 2009 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default
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I like how she says that if she had been on the Democratic ticket, the media would have gone easier on her. Yeah, that's it.


It's silly to think that it wouldn't have been easier on her. When a large number of people are feeling that the republicans are a source of the problems and the democrats are going to fix them, it is probably easier to draw viewers by being soft on democrats and hard on republicans.

If in 4-8 years most people are feeling that the democrats are now the source of all that is wrong and republicans are going to fix everything, you will likely see news stations being softer on republicans in hopes more people will watch their channel. Well.. perhaps.

Look at that Kennedy lady who can't speak at all, haven't been seeing as much critical talk of her. That either has to do with her name or that little (D) near it.
#7 Jan 10 2009 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's silly to think that it wouldn't have been easier on her. When a large number of people are feeling that the republicans are a source of the problems and the democrats are going to fix them, it is probably easier to draw viewers by being soft on democrats and hard on republicans.


Yeah, a Democrat with a daughter pregnant out of wedlock would have been just ducky in the press. Smiley: rolleyes

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It's silly to think that it wouldn't have been easier on her. When a large number of people are feeling that the republicans are a source of the problems and the democrats are going to fix them, it is probably easier to draw viewers by being soft on democrats and hard on republicans.


Yeah, a Democrat with a daughter pregnant out of wedlock would have been just ducky in the press. Smiley: rolleyes



She would have had a hard time defending her extreme pro-life and creation education views as a Democrat...
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#9 Jan 10 2009 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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Look at that Kennedy lady who can't speak at all, haven't been seeing as much critical talk of her. That either has to do with her name or that little (D) near it.


Maybe you haven't heard much because you're in Omaha, Nebraska and she's being considered for the junior Senate seat in NY.

Had Sarah Palin been a Democrat, she would have been crucified by all of the media, including the conservative hacks that did nothing but kiss her *** throughout the campaign. She's an idiot and a liability to any party that would have her.
#10 Jan 10 2009 at 2:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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AlexanderrOfAsura wrote:
Look at that Kennedy lady who can't speak at all, haven't been seeing as much critical talk of her.
You're kidding, right?

I haven't been following the NY appointment at all and all I know about her (aside from the fact that she's a Kennedy) is that she badly flubbed some interview, she hadn't voted in the last umpteen elections and that her polling keeps dropping.

Palin's just crying about the omgliberalmedia and how all her woes stem from how badly she was treated by omgliberals. At least no one will accuse her of being a new kind of conservative.
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#11 Jan 10 2009 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Some interview I read--I have absolutely no intention of reading into Sarah Palin anymore if at all possible--had her saying that she should have been allowed to not go back for the second part of the Couric interview. Seriously. She gave what, three (two if you exclude the Hannity **** fest)interviews? She deserves my scorn simply for that.

Our wittle icklekins feels she was mistreated because she's a pubbie?

Her views on abortion were simply draconian. Raped? Too bad. You're gay? Well gee golly, you can sure be a part of my stable of gay friends Smiley: wink, but don't expect any rights. Energy policy? Drill baby, drill? What the fuck. Seriously? SERIOUSLY? The fact that there were republicans out there that actually lent her credibility as a candidate made me want to bang my head on the sidewalk.

Also, Caroline Kennedy is garbage. She neither deserves the seat, nor is qualified for it. This isn't a fucking aristocracy. Your Kennedy name means shit to me if you cannot hit the ground running. I feel the same way about Franken--although I don't want Coleman.

Edit: Actually, I take that back. I'd rather have Coleman in the Senate.

Edited, Jan 10th 2009 6:13pm by Paskil
#12REDACTED, Posted: Jan 10 2009 at 3:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I mostly just didn't know because I didn't devote it to memory and didn't feel like bothering to waste the 5 seconds it would of taken to look it up.
#13 Jan 10 2009 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Palin's just crying about the omgliberalmedia and how all her woes stem from how badly she was treated by omgliberals. At least no one will accuse her of being a new kind of conservative.


It's the standard right wing line to discredit the main stream media. That way they can just do what they want and if they get criticize, they can just yell, "BIAS!" rather than do something, like be accountable for their actions and stand behind what they stay.

WHAT HAPPENED TO "THE BUCK STOPS HERE?" It's always like "No, the main stream media says the buck stops here but it stops with the democrats and their liberal conspiracy."
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#14 Jan 10 2009 at 4:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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AlexanderrOfAsura wrote:
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Maybe you haven't heard much because you're in Omaha, Nebraska and she's being considered for the junior Senate seat in NY.


I mostly just didn't know because I didn't devote it to memory and didn't feel like bothering to waste the 5 seconds it would of taken to look it up.

Guess it just annoys me when some in the media obviously have a bias but people refuse to believe it. This goes both ways of course(regardless of what some of you may think.) Oh well, not like I would accomplish much even trying to argue that here.


Well for starters you could pick your battles better and have some clue of what you're actually arguing.

Not like I'll accomplish much saying that to you.

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#15REDACTED, Posted: Jan 10 2009 at 4:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hah, sadly picking ones's battles better here is just agreeing with a certain few of you and having a clue is well.. believing things as some of you think they are.
#16 Jan 10 2009 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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AlexanderrOfAsura wrote:
Hah, sadly picking ones's battles better here is just agreeing with a certain few of you and having a clue is well.. believing things as some of you think they are.

But you do have a point in that you won't be accomplishing much saying it to me. I can't figure out how to get into the altered state of mind where Fox News in the devil and the rest of the media is totally fair.


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#17 Jan 10 2009 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't figure out how to get into the altered state of mind where Fox News in the devil and the rest of the media is totally fair.


I'm not sure that anyone here actually thinks that Fox news is the devil. Some of its programming has an obvious bias, but that's bound to happen on any 24 hour news station. Anytime a corporate entity owns a source of information, its interests are bound to eventually find their way into the media that is released. Reality is biased.
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AlexanderrOfAsura wrote:
Hah, sadly picking ones's battles better here is just agreeing with a certain few of you and having a clue is well.. believing things as some of you think they are.
Yeah, the problem is obviously the unfairness of the forum. You'd make for a great Republican politican Smiley: laugh

You made the example of Kennedy and, to me anyway, it's an example that doesn't hold because the only stories I remember hearing about Kennedy's possible appointment are negative ones and because Palin was running for a national position where she'd potentially become the most powerful person in the free world whereas Kennedy is vying for a junior slot as one person out of 100. So the density of coverage I get regarding both of them may differ.

But, yeah, you're right. Those little facts don't matter. When someone doesn't immediately say "Yeah, you're right! The coverage of Kennedy does show how unfair they were to Palin!", it must be because the forum is just so darn tootin' baised and you have to agree with the select few to "pick your battles".

I bet Couric used her ninja-like journalistic powers to ambush you, too.
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#19 Jan 11 2009 at 3:44 AM Rating: Good
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I bet Couric used her ninja-like journalistic powers to ambush you, too.


She jumped me in an alley. I think she's an alien. At least, she used that microphone like one. Smiley: frown
#20 Jan 11 2009 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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AlexanderrOfAsura wrote:
I can't figure out how to get into the altered state of mind where Fox News in the devil and the rest of the media is totally fair.


You make it sound like Palin is the only one to ever have to deal with media mumbo-jumbo.

Media might've picked on her, but media picks up on any little details and runs with it. Not just for Palin, but for anybody who's name is known by more than just friends and family.

The fact that she was the worse possible candidate for VP is something so painfully obvious that people would still know this even if the all news medias would've unified to try to make her look like the best thing since sliced bread.

At this point, the media doesn't even HAVE to target her; she does a fine job of making an *** out of herself without help, thus providing entertainment for anyone with a clue. All that the "evil biased media" has to do is press the record button and laugh.
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