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#1 Jan 04 2009 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Prof. Panarin, 50 years old, is not a fringe figure. A former KGB analyst, he is dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry’s academy for future diplomats. He is invited to Kremlin receptions, lectures students, publishes books, and appears in the media as an expert on U.S.-Russia relations.

Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces — with Alaska reverting to Russian control.

He based the forecast on classified data supplied to him by FAPSI analysts, he says. He predicts that economic, financial and demographic trends will provoke a political and social crisis in the U.S. When the going gets tough, he says, wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and effectively secede from the union. Social unrest up to and including a civil war will follow. The U.S. will then split along ethnic lines, and foreign powers will move in.

California will form the nucleus of what he calls “The Californian Republic,” and will be part of China or under Chinese influence. Texas will be the heart of “The Texas Republic,” a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence. Washington, D.C., and New York will be part of an “Atlantic America” that may join the European Union. Canada will grab a group of Northern states Prof. Panarin calls “The Central North American Republic.” Hawaii, he suggests, will be a protectorate of Japan or China, and Alaska will be subsumed into Russia.


http://www.emagine-group.com/behindthechairmansdoor/2008/12/29/us-will-split-by-2010/

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#2 Jan 04 2009 at 10:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well someone certanly has an overactive imagination. The U.S. people as a whole are far to lazy to bother with a cival war these days. Unless they take away our TV and internet, in which case we will kill you ALL!
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#3 Jan 04 2009 at 10:47 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Well someone certanly has an overactive imagination. The U.S. people as a whole are far to lazy to bother with a cival war these days. Unless they take away our TV and internet, in which case we will kill you ALL!


Lol yea. This is kinda what I was thinking.
#4 Jan 04 2009 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
There's no way this will happen in two years given the present circumstances in the US. It's an absurd theory.
#5 Jan 04 2009 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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He's just trying to spark some interest for his screen play, hoping that someone in Hollywood will grab and pay him for the rights.
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#6 Jan 04 2009 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Meh. I'll be part of Canada. Aside from needing to talk like they do in Strange Brew and getting universal health care, I doubt I'll notice the difference.
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#7 Jan 04 2009 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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Meh. I'll be part of Canada. Aside from needing to talk like they do in Strange Brew and getting universal health care, I doubt I'll notice the difference.


Ditto. I'm pretty sure we got the longest stick in this deal. I'm not gonna be the first to complain.

Then, someday maybe we can become The Reunited States of International Influence. How romantic.
#8 Jan 04 2009 at 12:50 PM Rating: Good
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Childish predictions Smiley: rolleyes

He bases his predictions on the collapse of the USSR. But thats a different organisation made by force and not choice. The USA was formed by common goals and has a shared history, unlike the nation states stolen by Stalin after WW2.

I think it would be fair to compare America to the Roman republic when Hannibal defeated them at Cannae. Any other republic would have folded to the invader but the Romans rallied as they were joined socially, economically in language and goals. They did not seek any external influence and actually liked the regime they lived under.

The same in the US. I can hardly see the split of the USA as shown on this map having any economic, social or historic basis other than a wishy washy lazy armchair analysis by a biased old senile. If he was so good, and the Kremlin KGB was such a hotrod of great intelligence why did the USSR split up in the first place?

Another case of someone judging other people by their own low standards Smiley: nod
#9 Jan 04 2009 at 1:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Even if there were any truth to the forecast, going public with it would have doomed it anyway. We're far too spiteful to allow someone to tell us how our country will collapse.
#10 Jan 04 2009 at 1:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Even if there were any truth to the forecast, going public with it would have doomed it anyway. We're far too spiteful to allow someone to tell us how our country will collapse.


How very Roman of you Smiley: nod
#11 Jan 04 2009 at 1:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Some Dopey Russian wrote:
Texas will be the heart of “The Texas Republic,” a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence.


Somehow I just can't see Texas and the rest of JimBobwe accepting Mexican rule under any circumstances.

Edited, Jan 4th 2009 4:18pm by Deathwysh
#12 Jan 04 2009 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
This is retarded.
#13 Jan 04 2009 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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Lady GwynapNud wrote:
I think it would be fair to compare America to the Roman republic when Hannibal defeated them at Cannae. Any other republic would have folded to the invader but the Romans rallied as they were joined socially, economically in language and goals. They did not seek any external influence and actually liked the regime they lived under.


I think the best place to draw an analogy between America in Rome is about the 130s BC. The American republic has roughly another century of civil violence and governmental disintegration before collapsing under the strain of its own might and forming a long-lasting authoritarian empire.

Plus, we need more Caesars kthx.
#14 Jan 04 2009 at 3:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lady GwynapNud wrote:
I think it would be fair to compare America to the Roman republic when Hannibal defeated them at Cannae. Any other republic would have folded to the invader but the Romans rallied as they were joined socially, economically in language and goals. They did not seek any external influence and actually liked the regime they lived under.


I think the best place to draw an analogy between America in Rome is about the 130s BC. The American republic has roughly another century of civil violence and governmental disintegration before collapsing under the strain of its own might and forming a long-lasting authoritarian empire.

Plus, we need more Caesars kthx.
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#15 Jan 05 2009 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh yeah? well we have one device that the romans never had. A device of near infinate destructive power, that causes all other countries to secretly tremble in dread.

Yes. You know of what I speak...

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#16 Jan 05 2009 at 6:51 AM Rating: Good
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Today, I'm proud to be able to sit before y'all and tell you that the wrongs will be righted, the past made present, the united, divided!

Great Britain gets back the original colonies, minus Manhattan. Florida and the Fountain of Youth go back to Spain. Texas, New Mexico, California, Arizona revolve a México.

Someone's been watching Wild Wild West.
#17 Jan 05 2009 at 7:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lady GwynapNud wrote:
He bases his predictions on the collapse of the USSR.
If he does, he's an idiot. Even when the USSR collapsed, it didn't end with Russia being split among China, India, Europe and Santa Claus. In fact, Future-Russia is obviously powerful enough to yoink Alaska from us rather than it going to Canada.
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#18 Jan 05 2009 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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Lady GwynapNud wrote:
He bases his predictions on the collapse of the USSR.
If he does, he's an idiot. Even when the USSR collapsed, it didn't end with Russia being split among China, India, Europe and Santa Claus. In fact, Future-Russia is obviously powerful enough to yoink Alaska from us rather than it going to Canada.


So that's why Putin was "rearing his head" over Alaska.
#19 Jan 05 2009 at 7:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Lady GwynapNud wrote:
He bases his predictions on the collapse of the USSR.
If he does, he's an idiot. Even when the USSR collapsed, it didn't end with Russia being split among China, India, Europe and Santa Claus. In fact, Future-Russia is obviously powerful enough to yoink Alaska from us rather than it going to Canada.
We don't have near the social problems that the USSR had when it collapsed either. If/when the US falls, it'll be from outside sources.
#20 Jan 05 2009 at 7:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ash&c wrote:
We don't have near the social problems that the USSR had when it collapsed either. If/when the US falls, it'll be from outside sources.


I disagree, unless you're counting world economic and resource pressures as outside sources.

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#21 Jan 05 2009 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Ash&c wrote:
We don't have near the social problems that the USSR had when it collapsed either. If/when the US falls, it'll be from outside sources.


I disagree, unless you're counting world economic and resource pressures as outside sources.

Well it won't be from internal social turmoil. That's what I meant.
#22 Jan 05 2009 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't want to be a mexican!! Damn I need to move to Kansas...
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#23 Jan 05 2009 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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I don't want to be a mexican!! Damn I need to move to Kansas...


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#24 Jan 05 2009 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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Mistress Darqflame wrote:
I don't want to be a mexican!! Damn I need to move to Kansas...


When we piled the family into the ol'truck-with-camper-shell-o-doom to drive out to Chicago-way for my brother's graduation from Northwestern, he proceeded to show his college skillzors by overfilling the oil in the engine, resulting in a week long stop in Mitchel South Dakota (home of the Corn Palace!!!). There being nothing else to do, we mostly spent our time swimming in the pool at the local Y. The locals there consistently referred to us as "Mexicans from Arkansas".


For some reason, that popped into my mind...


Oh. And I keep picturing Fortress America as well. Strange...
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#25 Jan 05 2009 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Mistress Darqflame wrote:
I don't want to be a mexican!! Damn I need to move to Kansas...


How ghastly! One in your circumstances might consider the northeast. Rumor has it we'll be rejoining jolly old England. It has its drawbacks, granted, but at least we share (most of) a common language and the good breeding to stand up and slaughter our enemies like civilized men. A spiffing time is sure to be had by all!
#26 Jan 06 2009 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
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So if this crackpot theory did come to pass I would need my passport to visit all of my FFXI friends I see irl. Then again I'd also get a piece of that hot Euro currency action.
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