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This. I can't see why anyone sees anyone on the right or wrong side of this conflict in any way. It's a cluster@#%^ that has little chance of abetting anytime soon where both sides have done fairly horrific stuff in retaliation of other awful sh*t the other side had done.

Edited, Jan 4th 2009 11:05pm by Annabella

As opposed to the other kind

Forgive me, I forgot what their religious services were called.

By dropping Rahm Emanuel behind enemy lines to take out Hamas, commando style. Except him to start showing up to press conferences wearing a necklace of fingers.

Sleeping on it, I'll admit that I've tempered by stance and agree that it is a tragedy what's happening to the people there and that it's largely through no fault of their own. I still side with Israel on it and find their position understandable if not desirable and doubt that'll change until folks stop firing shit at them. My opinion of Hamas and their methods is unchanged but I was embarassingly unfair to the people caught in the crossfire. Chalk it up to frustration and the stubborness of being the opposition team for a change.

This is where I was going with the "macro psychosis" comment. It's been sixty years of constant stress and damned near constant attacks. I really think they go a little crazy at times.

It's worrisome, because they're very, very good at dealing death.

My new year has started looking up again!

I only bring it up now because apparently, Israel has begun to take my advice.

Where are they suppose to go? Gaza is a giant prison. If Israel was opening the border and letting them out then you would have a point. Right now it's a meaningless gesture.

Not to mention the phrasing itself couldn't be more sinister.

"Vee haff our vays....."

To be fair, it is, at times, impossible to tell the difference between civilians and the terrorists, so I don't see why Israel should put any real effort into such an endeavor. A warning is a warning. If the militants / government were concerned about the safety of their own people, I'm sure they'd find a way to help them evacuate. Any warning is better than no warning, even if seems futile on the surface.

Of course, my post was intended to be less a confirmation of Israel's "good deed" and more a "Hey look, I called it". Take it with a grain of salt or none at all.

Edited, Jan 5th 2009 5:08pm by BrownDuck

To be fair, it is, at times, impossible to tell the difference between civilians and the terrorists, so I don't see why Israel should put any real effort into such an endeavor.

That's because you're a fucking moron who feels obliged to have an opinion on every subject, regardless of how ignorant you are about it. Israel is killing civilians ON PURPOSE. It's inarguable. It's an intentional strategic decision to attempt to undermine Hamas support among the population. The level of abject blind suckerdom required to believe otherwise is simply staggering.

Also, by the way, it isn't hard, any of the time to tell the difference between a 9 year old girl and a 19 year old guy holding a rifle. It isn't hard to tell the difference from a mosque in the middle of prayer from a rocket factory. Israel's made a decision to kill civilians, fine. Not an invalid position. The PR Campaign where they claim to be avoiding civilian casualties, however, is pro forma, you fucking fool. Bombing ten mosques then having a press confrenve where you state "Hamas has been known to hide rockets in mosques, maybe, some of the time, even though no one has ever produced any evidence of this, ever" isn't supposed to be taken seriously. It's supposed to prevent war crime charges.

Sure, but at least I'm capable of having a mature conversation.

If the militants / government were concerned about the safety of their own people, I'm sure they'd find a way to help them evacuate.

TO WHERE???? Do you understand this AT ALL? Here, look, the I's are IDF forces that shoot you in the face if you approach them (because who knows if you're a militant or not!!). The G's are the civillians in Gaza.

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