israel / hamasFollow

Its pretty astounding that the Palestinians have become so fucked up after only 50 years of occupation, deprivation and collective punishment!

They should just sack up and accept it as pre-ordained by Allah after all this time eh? Ingrates.

I was taking the ****.

I wouldn't expect you to have noticed.

So it's group-centered, not self-centered. It's centered on the interests of the group in question.

I'm pretty sure you made up the term just then, so I think you should know that it's an oxymoron.

British slang for teasing.

Thats because my keyboard is a ****** up wirelessone with delay, and English is also my third language (First being Arabic and then French) and spell check dosent work for some reason.

I think im doing great compared to you, good sir, esspeically as English is your first language, really.
Ironicly your telling me my posts are unintelligable, but I cant seem to figure out 90% of the crap that comes out of yours. I feel bad for the poor saps that have to filter out all the **** you put in. And thats evreyone but you.

Back to the discussion.

Israel is not "murdering innocent people". Israel is getting bombed by animals called the hamas and threats from the arab world. While its true that Israel is on good terms with Egypt and Jordan, it is only politicly: many tunnels found in Gaza leed straight into Egypt (led as of a few days ago). Where do you think they got all those Katusha roickets came from? If I were Israel I would wipe Gaza of the face of the earth. But israel has deceided not to. I think people keep forgetting that. Israel has chosen to be as mercifull as possible, because we all know that if it were the other way around and the palestinians were in power, there would be no mercy.

So instead of blaming Israel on all the **** that happens in the world why not look at the real problems. Most Arab countries have currupt government and are run by terrorist orginazations. Most massive slaughters and massaceres have happened and curenntly happen on Arab via Arab issues, not Jew via Arab. Israel as it stands is one of the only civilized countries (As a whole) in the middle east today and is a first world country. So far no one has made any sence as to why what Israel is doing is wrong.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2009 2:38am by Finalfantmaster

In a word? Yes.

More to the point, I think that groups of people funded by Middle Eastern countries will continue to beat against Israel.So will the missile launches from Hamas that preceded the airstrikes.

Do you think for a second that Hamas wants anything but the destruction of Israel? And do you actually believe that any amount of child deaths, from zero to fifty bajillion, will have any effect on how much Hamas wants to destroy Israel?

'Cause, if you do, I have a bridge to sell you out in the Golan Heights.

Edited for numerous typos and stuff

Edited, Jan 3rd 2009 10:17am by Jophiel

Oh, and the Egyptian government is catching hell from the population for not doing anything against Israel. To the point where some predict that this will be a flipping point in the government next election away from its moderate stance.

I posted this earlier Joph but it was sub-defaulted because I pointed out that Israel is in violation of the most UN sanctions and international law of any country since WWII.

Obviously no one who bombs innocent civilians is right or good, on either side, so yes I absolutely condemn Hamas, but when you consider that Israel has killed at least three times more civilians in the last 10 days than Hamas has killed in the last 8 years, it is obvious to any objective observer that Israel's reaction is way overboard.



You are advocating the largest genocide our planet has seen since Cambodia. I am not going to argue with someone who aspires to be Hitler.

For those of you repeating the propaganda you heard in Western media, Hamas did not end the 6-month cease-fire that started this mess, Israel did. Here is a link with many primary sources compiled.

http://www.creative-i.info/?p=3421


Also, 57% of the Palestinian deaths thus far have been children, so yes I am going to continue to play the innocent civilian card.

http://uruknet.info/?p=m50258&hd=&size=1&l=e

It doesn't bother that, for instance, when Israeli soldiers enter Gaza to destroy a tunnel being dug under the wall and Hamas fighters clash with them that the author of the article calls it Israel's fault? 'Cause here's a hint -- don't try to tunnel under the security wall during a cease-fire. Or try to kill the Israeli soldiers who are collapsing the tunnel you were digging to violate the cease-fire.That's fine. Each time you do I think worse of Hamas for it.

Hamas wants Israel to continue murdering civilians so it can increase its recruitment efforts and continue this war, and Israel is obliging.

Working with the assumption that Israel wants to achieve peace, explain exactly HOW Israel plans to achieve peace? Do they really think peace will be achieved with this method? Really really?

Of course I do. Which is why I think it's fucked up that Hamas is continuing this war in the hopes of having their children murdered.

If you had any sense of decency or compassion, you'd join me in condemning Hamas as being truely fucked up people with no value what so ever for what they're intentionally subjecting their children to. Whatever you might think of their methods, Israel is working to end this conflict. Hamas wants to continue it so they can murder more of their own children, either using Israel as a proxy or by strapping bombs to them.

I can't begin to comprehend how you can accuse me of a lack of compassion as you fail to spit at Hamas for their actions.So that's their end goal? To kill every one of their children?

No, I said to explain what Hamas ultimately wants.By working to eliminate the threat from Hamas. Which you might think isn't working but it's a hell of a lot better planned than what you're giving me for Hamas.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2009 11:10am by Jophiel