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#1 Dec 31 2008 at 3:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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An old friend is getting married in May and I'm hoping to attend the wedding. She's French, has always lived in France, doesn't really speak English and evidently despite my pleading, is insisting on being wed in France. I, however, do not speak French anymore and have never been to France and the one English wedding I attended taught me that there are, in fact differences. For example, I was the only woman there who was not wearing a hat. Yes, a hat.

Anywho...Red, Nobby, I'm looking at you guys. Weddings in France, what's the deal? What should I know? Is it insulting to wear a certain color? Are the French hat-optional? If I do go, I'll need to find a hotel with a nice English speaking staff.

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#2 Dec 31 2008 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're going to need a black & white striped shirt, a red scarf and a beret.

Also, if you can grow a small pointy mustache, it'd help.
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#3 Dec 31 2008 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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[racist joke]Armpit hair should always be braided.[/racist joke]

As for hats; if it's a Catholic wedding; yes - required.
If it's protestant or secular, optional, but in my experience, more common than in England. I'd have one available if I were you.

In all cases, you need to find out if it's a 'society' wedding (very posh frock - think 4 weddings/Andie MacDowell) or more casual (skirt-suit, trouser-suit or smart-ish dress).

Re. language; unless it's a rural parochial hotel, they will be able to converse in English (but pretend not to be).

And Jophiel - you forgot the onion necklace
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Garlic.

Frogs legs.

Run away at any sign of conflict.

...errr that about it.

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#5 Dec 31 2008 at 5:08 PM Rating: Good
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Traditional wedding gift is the Cheese/Croissant/Wine basket.
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#6 Dec 31 2008 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Cigarettes, coffee, wine, and bad art would also be an acceptable gift.
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I think you are required to bring a dead mime to the wedding as agift for the bride!

No idea if this is accurate, but: http://www99.epinions.com/content_2276237444
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#8 Jan 01 2009 at 3:00 AM Rating: Good
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Also say "I will say this only once" a lot Smiley: nod
#9 Jan 01 2009 at 4:03 AM Rating: Good
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I thought it was "you know" a lot? Smiley: eek
#10 Jan 01 2009 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't bathe or shave. Then smoke incessantly, drink too much wine, and complain about Americans, and you'll fit right in.

Edited, Jan 1st 2009 9:15am by TurinAlexander
#11 Jan 01 2009 at 8:11 AM Rating: Good
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Make constant references, to Bellau Bois, Omaha Beach, St. Mere Eglise, Caretan, and being a good friend of the family of Gen. LeCLerc and you should have no problems.
#12 Jan 01 2009 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
Say things like "J'adore les cigarettes! Les americans sont le diable. Ce vin es muy bueno!"
#13 Jan 01 2009 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I know bugger all about culture but generally you will be welcomed with open arms if it's clear that you can't really speak French but are trying your best anyway. This is true pretty much everywhere and I've found slightly condescending friendlyness (trying) > complete disdain (not trying). Unless they're Parisians, then you're @#%^ed. Try and find some English speakers and stay with them.

Edited, Jan 1st 2009 2:24pm by Youshutup
#14 Jan 01 2009 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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Tell them you learned everything you know about France from Jean Reno films.
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#15 Jan 01 2009 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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#17 Jan 01 2009 at 10:33 PM Rating: Good
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Why don't you just ask her?
#18 Jan 02 2009 at 2:07 AM Rating: Good
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Why don't you just ask her?
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#19 Jan 02 2009 at 2:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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zepoodle wrote:
Why don't you just ask her?


We met ten years ago. She used to speak a little English, I was her tutor. I used to speak a little French...neither of us speak the other's language now. I can read it ok, haha, I knew it was a wedding invitation, for whom, the date, and roughly where, but this isn't an instance where I want to risk misunderstanding and show up wearing a feather boa.

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#20 Jan 02 2009 at 4:56 AM Rating: Good
Everything Nobby said was spot on.

Whatever kind of wedding it is, you can't really go wrong by wearing a hat. It might not be compulosory, but it's never frowned upon either. Don't wear a red dress, or something which could "upstage" the bride. It's always nice to bring a gift of course, though I wouldn't reccomend wine since you'll be in wine country and might be seen as a slight insult. Other alcohol would be just fine, though. Other than that, weddings are usually pretty smart affairs, so a nice dress should be in order.

Other than that, nothing special. They do drag on for a bit, church service in the morning and then an endless late lunch/dinner would be my guess.

You should really go, though. Bordeaux is lovely, the region is gorgeous, the food and the wine are out of this world, and drunk french people are usually pretty nice and friendly. And, if we're honest, any faux-pas you might make will be forgiven by the simple fact you`re American, and therefore not supposed to know the local customs.

As for the language, "Enchantee!" when you meet/are introduced to someone is always good. Most people will speak enlgish though, the more so the drunker they get. Finally, a beautiful woman is always warmly welcomed and very appreciated in France, so don't worry too much, you'll be just fine, and people will make sure you're ok.

If you want me to find a hotel, PM me the details of where the wedding is and your budget, and I'll do a quick search to see what I can find, and send you a pot-pourri of my findings.
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#21 Jan 02 2009 at 5:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Red is clearly trying to strip the nice mantle from Nephy Smiley: nod
#22 Jan 03 2009 at 11:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Baron von tarv wrote:
Red is clearly trying to strip the nice mantle from Nephy steal Smash's gurl Smiley: nod
FTFY
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#23 Jan 03 2009 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Nobby wrote:
Baron von tarv wrote:
Red is clearly trying to strip the nice mantle from Nephy steal Smash's gurl Smiley: nod
FTFY
How's that going Red?
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#24 Jan 04 2009 at 3:52 AM Rating: Good
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Everything Nobby said was spot on.
Smiley: cool

In addition, my experience of the avergae "Jacques de Doe" is that (especially in the North of France) they have huge respect for Americans, provided they don't do the "World Police" kick and they stay away from politics.

They all grew up on US TV shows and movies, and most (especially the under-40s) get a buzz out of trying out their English. Red was right though - a non-francophone having an attempt at speaking french is always welcomed and made a fuss of.

In short; buy a hat and a pretty/elegant frock, brush up on a few everyday french phrases and you'll have a whale of a time.

P.S. French wedding cake is something you'll never forget - a ginormous pyramid of chocolate & cream choux-pastry profiteroles. Le nom nom!
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#25 Jan 04 2009 at 7:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nobby wrote:
Baron von tarv wrote:
Red is clearly trying to strip the nice mantle from Nephy steal Smash's gurl Smiley: nod
FTFY
How's that going Red?


You guys have got it all wrong, it´s actually Smash I´m trying to steal.
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#26 Jan 04 2009 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
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How's that going Red?


This wedding would be a good chance. It's better than even money that the land of mimes and mistresses is going to deny me an entry visa for reasons I can't go into, and also likely can't resolve in time to make it. Nexa will be running amok hammered on cheap Beaujolais, unescorted!
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