Baron von Annabella wrote:
As for secular humanists, especially those who exist in wealthy western countries, I've seen plenty of complacency and not much more evidence of more organized movements for social justice than among religious people , unless I'm missing something.
It's been awhile, so I guess i should once again point to
Ethical Culture and the
American Ethical Union, as an non dogma religious movement that tries to promote social justice.
There is also various other secular humanistic movements around the world, it just takes looking.
Baron von Annabella wrote:
Ooooh the burden on poor Kavekk. So you have no demonstrable evidence but you expect me to believe you based on faith or something? Sorry, I actually question your views. :P But apparently I'm unreasonable and even though you have a lot of really great arguments, you aren't gonna present them b/c I'm unable to listen to them. You p*ssy.
I love the irony of the use the word 'faith' in the many pages of this thread.
I wish i had a copy of the talk that an Ethical Culture Leader gave on being a Spiritual Atheist years ago. I know a few folk that fall under the label as such, as well as those that can be as dogmatic as Smash over there being no magical god being watching over us.
One note about Irish history. The problems between England and Ireland go much father back then the split between Henry the VII and a dress wearing guy in Rome refusing his wishes.
Being descended from both Irish Catholic and Protestants, I have a rather divided view over religion and it being used as an social weapon upon the masses.
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