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I was cut off in traffic this morning by a guy with a "Marriage = 1 Man + 1 Woman" bumper sticker.

I guess that was an act of god.

You know, It seems that the only people around town that have the "Marriage = 1 Man + 1 Woman" stickers also have a slew of other bogus crap on their bumpers too, like "Pray, a four letter word in our schools."

One guy's truck had those two, and about half a dozen others all over the tail gate.

One of many reasons i'm an Atheist.

Who cares what the head of a paedophile ring thinks?

Glass houses and all that

Amazingly, in this, the 21st century, over 1.1 billion people follow the medievel superstitious belief system that is known as Catholisism.

You're going to hell. [:devil:]

This.

Also, not to interject fact into a good ole fashioned Papal-hate fest but the Church hasn't espoused a belief in Six Day Creationism in decades. Compared to most Christian churches, the Vatican's belief in the Big Bang and Darwinian evolution is downright progressive.

The sole reason they're against it is because people that are gay usually don't have children in marriage*, which means less cradle Catholics to indoctrinate.

*Except the ones that adopt or had children from previous hetero marriages, but chances are they weren't Catholic anyway.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2008 7:17pm by catwho

catwho wrote:


So, you reckon that they're worried about oursouls? They should explain it better then! If thats the case they should distribute KY and anti-chafe cream at Sunday Mass then. That'd fix it right up.

And no need for all this talk about eternal damnation!

Well thats right where I get confuzzled, you see.....

If the bible is the 'werd of God', and God is infallible, how come people of religeon get to pick and choose wich bits they are going to believe. And upon what criteria do they base that upon?

In the bible it says God created the Heavan and the Earth and all its peripherals in 6 days. He put Adam and Eve on it in a garden and all was good. Until a talking snake rocked up and pointed out Eves Bewbs to Adam, and then it all went to shit. (I'm paraphrasing here)

Also talked about is Great Floods, boats with a pair of each type of animal on it, virgin births, miracles, ressurecting the dead and on and on.....

Now here we are in 2008, and (especially moderate) religeous folk are saying 'actually, You know what..I'm not so sure about the Ark, or the Garden of Eden' or Hell actually being a real place or whatever but I'm going to keep believing in the crucifiction (oops) and the ressurection and the dying for our sins bits'.


So my question is really, how come its ok to "move along"?. How do people who confess a belief in God and follow a religeon like Christianity reconcile their belief in the Bible as the 'Word of God' with their decision to actually pick and choose wich bits of it they are going to believe fully and wich bits they are going to say ' well, it was written a long time ago, and we've moved on a bit since then'?

It seems to be the biggest cop-out imo. If you are a believer and a follower of faith, shouldn't the whole thing be a 'believed'? Where does it say that its permitted for the individual to cherry pick the bits that suit? And if it isn't permitted why is everyone from the Pope downwards doing exactly that?

My indignation about churches and religeon (as opposed to spirituality) comes from the hypocricy and self delusion of its leaders and its followers in regards to their effortless ability to use the Bible or whichever text they are using, to support their views whilst totally ignoring other parts of the same text (wich should surely be as valid if indeed they were written by their chosen deity, when it comes to subjects they dont agree with any more.

I've notice that this particular kind of retardery on the internet where people bemoan the church for narrow-minded thinking while making simple minded accusations against anyone with beliefs based in any religion and not considering the inherent hypocrisy of that stance. It's also quite artless because they never discuss the issues with certain churches in any nuanced ways.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2008 9:09pm by Annabella

Even I couldn't accuse the church of 'narrow minded thinking'. They believe in virgin birth and ressurection for goodness sake! Theres nothing narrow minded in that for sure.

I do however bemoan the fact that they happily base their lives around something that flys in the face of all known evidence to the contrary, and then expect to be taken seriously by the rest of us when they hold forth with opinions about sex/marriage/morals/life/rainforests/the universe and everything in between. And not only that, but whilst holding up their 'rule-book' as the definative and final word on any subject you can name, they simultaneously deny aspects of the same text that don't suit them.

I have, in a certain way, more respect for the rabid evangelical creationist than the moderate Christian.*

Whereas the rabid fundamentalist is quite happy in their astounding ignorance and lack of curiosity, to follow the bible as the literal 'word of God', all those half ***** believers who go to church once a week to keep up appearances and are the people I mentioned above who pick and choose wich bits they want to believe this week, are the worst kind of hypocrites.

I'm not sure wether they are deluding themselves into believing that God wont notice their coveting their neighbours wife or their blaspheming, or that they are sitting in church totally comfortable with pretending to believe in the Virgin birth as well as pretending to understand Darwinian Evolutionary theory.

I'm truly curious to know what moderate Christians believe in. And why.

If, Annabella, you are unable to see the difference between my stance, wich is based in the 'scientific' realm of evidence and observation, and the Popes (or whichever religeous leader you care to name), wich is based in superstition and the supernatural, then thats fine. But I would appreciate it that if you are going to respond, that you do so after having a bit of a think first, and not just coming up with a crappy "people bemoan the church for narrow-minded thinking while making simple minded accusations against anyone with beliefs based in any religion and not considering the inherent hypocrisy of that stance.. "load of bollox. My whole point is that beliefs based in religion are by definition, simple minded, or at the very least completely lacking in basic curiosity or logic. Whilst that may have been acceptable to the population at large in the not so distant past when the Church was the law, I find it impossible to understand in the 21st century when there has been so much progress made in the many fields of science to fully explain with real proof, real evidence how evolution or cosmology or chemistry or genetics actually function. And yet theres millions of people around the world who still refuse to acknowledge what is right in front of them, but still insist on clinging to a medievel superstition that tells them that 'God done it'.



*Written for effect. I have no respect whatsover for fundamentalists of any stripe.

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