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#1 Dec 05 2008 at 8:28 PM Rating: Good
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So a teacher was giving a history lesson and decided to give a more thorough example on what it might have been like to be transported as a slave. God forbid she actually decided to use tape to bind the students!

Not such a smart idea using black students in the demonstration. Still though, remember how boring history class could be when the weather was nice or some exciting outdoor activity beckoned? I think the teacher was doing a rather grand job at livening up a traditionally boring subject for students.

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Shand said she had not decided whether to take any further action, including filing a lawsuit.


Shand of course being the parent of one of the two students. No one was hurt. If the student was psychologically hurt, she really needs thicker skin.

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"If a student was upset, then it was a bad idea," said Superintendent Brian Monahan of the North Rockland School District in New York City's northern suburbs.


So what, next you're going to stop teaching about the holocaust and slavery entirely? We wouldn't want to hurt the childwens feewings right?
#2 Dec 05 2008 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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Granted using tape was a little much, but I think more concerns would have been raised if the teach had used something like those velcro bondage cuffs.
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#3 Dec 05 2008 at 10:13 PM Rating: Good
I don't think it's likely that the student "burst into tears at home" like the mother said. In fact, I think the student would likely have refused to participate in the event if it bothered them that bad, or at the very least, given the teacher some indication that it was making her uncomfortable, and therefore, probably not a good idea. Chances are, this is a case of a mother overreacting and making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I wonder if the teacher automatically picked two black students, or if she asked for volunteers? The article doesn't say, specifically. If the girl volunteered, the mother's argument is moot.
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I don't think it's likely that the student "burst into tears at home" like the mother said. In fact, I think the student would likely have refused to participate in the event if it bothered them that bad, or at the very least, given the teacher some indication that it was making her uncomfortable, and therefore, probably not a good idea.


I don't think you should assume the student was lying about crying. People usually get freaked out in the moment and then in retrospect, become very uncomfortable. These were young girls and an overzealous teacher. It probably happened how everyone--including the teacher, said it played out.

The teacher might have had good intentions but she was an idiot for playing it out this way.

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Wilbur Aldridge, director of the local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said the history demonstration, first reported in The Journal News, "went wrong when she started to do that binding."

"I don't care what color, no one should be put in the position of having their hands and feet bound," he said.


Exactly, I can't believe a teacher was stupid enough to think that was a good idea, esp. without preplanning and parental permission. Liability. Jesus. Smiley: oyvey

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#5 Dec 05 2008 at 11:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think it's likely that the student "burst into tears at home" like the mother said. In fact, I think the student would likely have refused to participate in the event if it bothered them that bad, or at the very least, given the teacher some indication that it was making her uncomfortable, and therefore, probably not a good idea.


I don't think you should assume the student was lying about crying. People usually get freaked out in the moment and then in retrospect, become very uncomfortable. These were young girls and an overzealous teacher. It probably happened how everyone--including the teacher, said it played out.


I wouldn't assume the child was lying, but the article never stated teh child said she cried. Only that the mother said the child cried. The color of the student/mother is irrelevant when I say that mothers are prone to overreacting to things that happen at school, and often pursue action where the child may not prefer it.

Honestly, I think the idea was pretty good in terms of teaching the horror of slavery outside of a textbook, but she probably could have used a bandana or some other cloth binding over tape and picked one white/one black student. Still... it was probably masking tape or scotch tape, both of which are easily breakable in small quantities. I just think there's a good chance the whole event is being blown out of proportion because the mother wants it to be a racial issue.



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If the teacher explained what was going to happen, the student volunteered, and the student was not coerced into continuing the demonstration against her will--none of which can be confirmed by the article--then I can see nothing wrong with this exercise.

In any case it is terrible to discourage teachers from creative lesson plans. Do we really want classroom staffed by overpriced video lectures?
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"I don't care what color, no one should be put in the position of having their hands and feet bound,"

I'll have you know sir that some of my best educational experience involved having my hands or feet bound.

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#7 Dec 06 2008 at 7:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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White teacher binds two black students to teach the class about slavery. Jewish students seen changing classes before the Holocaust chapter
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When I was in third grade we had a younger teacher (mid 20s early 30s or so). She was attractive, and had the same birthday as me, and I kinda had a crush on her.

She was pulling us up to the front of the class, and then doing various things to see our reaction and show us how different people react to different things. It had something to do with a book we were reading at the time, I can't remember which one.

She called me up to the front of the class, and then kissed me on my cheek. I was a shy student and turned beet red, it was completely unexpected, and slightly embarassing as the entire class started going "oooooooo"... but it was by no means harmful to me.
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#10 Dec 06 2008 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Once in highschool literature, my teacher was attempting to demonstrate atticus' defense of that black dude in to kill a mockingbird, which, for those who do not remember, was something like: "you can't punch someone and make bruises on the right side of their face with your right hand, and since the dudes left hand was bandaged, he was innocent"

Well, he called me up to the front and wanted me to pretend to try to punch him on the right side of the face with my right hand; I, unfortunately, misjudged the power and angle of the attempt, and actually punched him. It was glorious.
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was something like: "you can't punch someone and make bruises on the right side of their face with your right hand, and since the dudes left hand was bandaged, he was innocent"


It wasn't bandaged, it was atrophied because, I believe, he got his arm stuck in a cotton gin and it tore up his muscles, leaving him permanently disabled with that arm.
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#12 Dec 06 2008 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, you know what the "one of the many things wrong with our society" is?

Fucking suckers like you reading this story and and thinking anything beyond "why on Earth did I ever think reading this drivel was a good idea?"

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#13 Dec 06 2008 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
I was constantly upset in my Calc BC class. All the derivatives and limits made me angry. Angry that I had to do math as an asian. Thats stereotyping. I wish they would not hand out F's
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TirithRR wrote:
When I was in third grade we had a younger teacher (mid 20s early 30s or so). She was attractive, and had the same birthday as me, and I kinda had a crush on her.

She was pulling us up to the front of the class, and then doing various things to see our reaction and show us how different people react to different things. It had something to do with a book we were reading at the time, I can't remember which one.

She called me up to the front of the class, and then kissed me on my cheek. I was a shy student and turned beet red, it was completely unexpected, and slightly embarassing as the entire class started going "oooooooo"... but it was by no means harmful to me.

I'm sure if you kissed her back she'd have been arrested and you in therapy for the rest of your life.
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TirithRR wrote:
When I was in third grade we had a younger teacher (mid 20s early 30s or so). She was attractive, and had the same birthday as me, and I kinda had a crush on her.

She was pulling us up to the front of the class, and then doing various things to see our reaction and show us how different people react to different things. It had something to do with a book we were reading at the time, I can't remember which one.

She called me up to the front of the class, and then kissed me on my cheek. I was a shy student and turned beet red, it was completely unexpected, and slightly embarassing as the entire class started going "oooooooo"... but it was by no means harmful to me.

I'm sure if you kissed her back she'd have been arrested and you in therapy for the rest of your life.


Na... this was 1992 or so. Teacher sex scandals weren't a big deal then.
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TirithRR wrote:
When I was in third grade we had a younger teacher (mid 20s early 30s or so). She was attractive, and had the same birthday as me, and I kinda had a crush on her.

She was pulling us up to the front of the class, and then doing various things to see our reaction and show us how different people react to different things. It had something to do with a book we were reading at the time, I can't remember which one.

She called me up to the front of the class, and then kissed me on my cheek. I was a shy student and turned beet red, it was completely unexpected, and slightly embarassing as the entire class started going "oooooooo"... but it was by no means harmful to me.


Today, that teacher will be called a child molester and will carry the ****** "sex offender" for the rest of her life and will never be allowed to teach anymore. That's what's wrong with our society :)
#17 Dec 08 2008 at 7:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, you know what the "one of the many things wrong with our society" is?

******* suckers like you reading this story and and thinking anything beyond "why on Earth did I ever think reading this drivel was a good idea?"


As much as I appreciate satire, Fark is in danger of being co-opted into the very thing it purports to satirize.

I suppose it's the inexorable way of things, though, ever since Jonathan Swift signed on to endorse Starving Irish Baby Cheese Doodles.

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What is the one thing here, binding a students feet for teaching purposes, a child getting upset about over being bound, or a parent that has some concern for their child's well-being?

You exaggerate with the claim that students can't be taught about the holocaust unless they are bound. Why not gas them too? Let'um really see what it was like.

You don't really think that taping a child's feet together for a few moments is at all representative of life in a concentration camp, do you?

Are you a parent?

What would you do if your child came home from school, crying, upset and with a story of having their feet bound?

If it's a matter of over-reacting, this post is every bit as guilty.
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