The face of racism in the UKFollow

Guys, guys, I think you are overlooking just how stupid this poster is.



1) How ironic.

2) No, we do not. You're wrong on all counts. HEY DURR I KNOW DURR I'LL JUST MAKE SOMETHING UP DURR IT'S BOUND TO BE RIGHT DURR. Was that your thought process? It bloody well was, wasn't it? 'Fess up.

You've run out of continents now!

I wonder if I can lure Amy Winehouse on a ship with a gram of smack and a blow dryer...

...Tempting.

Good call!

"In space no one can hear you screeech!"

Nicely put YSU - I'd made the same point but it clearly needed spelling out to this mouth-breather.

A few points: As soon as Cameron and the tories actually describe any policies, I'll take a view on whether they're preferable to the current administration. So far all they've said is "We will improve x,y or z". The difficult question "And how exactly will you do that" has always been avoided.

I think of them as the "Let's make everything lovely" party, with the caveat "We'll tell you how once you've voted us into office"

Given Nilatai's clear inability to string together a coherent sentence (let alone an argument), it's not suprising his/her MP is unable to help. Mine is always responsive, approachable and has resolved a number of issues for me and people in my neighbourhood.

And finally, this year's "I'm not a racist but" award goes to Nilatai.

Edited, Nov 30th 2008 9:04am by Nobby

What you've failed to establish is the lack of a work ethic among immigrants.

I'm sure i could dig up some info..

Edited, Dec 1st 2008 9:13am by Nilatai

Sometimes it's just too easy.

It's funny to me that here in the U.S. the anti-immigration screed is couched in the whole "they'll terk er jerbs!" framework, while in the U.K. (according to our fine example of xenophobia in this thread, at least) it seems to be more of a "they'll leech er bennies!" harangue.

It is. It's exactly the same. The things that really irritate me about this issue is the fact that

a) Immigrants pay taxes. They contribute to the NHS, to pensions, to welfare. If the number of people paying for these services increases, then surely the number of people using these services can increase too.
b) We have a huge pensions problem. It's blindingly obvious to anyone who knows how the pension system works. We need more immigrants. And not just "skilled" ones either. We need builders, plumbers, electricians, shopkeepers, bus drivers, traffic warders, etc, etc...
c) Lots of British people and "skilled" workers don't pay taxes. The number of loopholes in the system is huge, and the only people that benefit from it are those that can afford "creative accountants". If you really wanna moan about the system being abused, then at least direct your anger at the right people. You know, those that register themselves at as a company on the Isle of Man, Jernsey, Guernsey, or the Bahamas. Or at the "non-doms".



I couldn't have put it better myself. Nothing grates me more that this mystical golden age (somewhere between the 1950 and the Neandertal period) where everything was rosy, where neither crime, nor pedophiles, nor unruly teenagers, nor immirgants, nor abuse of the system existed. This golden age is a complete and utter myth.



They are, the direct descendents of. They're a bunch of fascist thugs in cheap suits.

I agree totally but before I ever get to explain these points to anti imigration people they are branded racists and get so defencive they will never change their minds.

The problem isn't racism, the problem is loss of social identity. You have numerous subcultures in Britain who quite rightly celebrate their culture visually and loudly, but there is nothing like Independace day for people to grab hold of their Britishness.

It's amazing to me that this country celebrates St Patrick's day with an almost unhealthy zeal and I think thats because there is nothing equivelant for England.

Of course it doesn't help when officious PC idiot do something stupid like banning someone having a St Georges cross flag and the papaers get hold of it .

The BNP effect could be totally defused if there was something positive for people to do instead.

The other side of the coin is when a City council announces that 4000 jobs will be created because of a building scheme and the 12 months later figures released show that 75% of the jobs went to the Polish and most of the rest to people from outside the City dispite many of those jobs (90%) never being advertised to the locals.

But free market forces and all that, the Polish could afford to take minimum wage for skilled jobs because the cost of living in Poland is so low.

When things like that happen you're swimming against the tide trying to convince people immigration is good when the jobs they where promiced (or at least announced) where for locals have gone to imported workers.

50% of Taxi driver in plymouth are now eastern European, not because there is a lack of plymouth employee's but because the largest Taxi company can hire them in say Poland, charge them to train, charge them rent in flats the company owns, hire them cars the company owns, hire them equipment like satnav and comms the company owns and make profits at ever stage. This guy exclusively hires abroad now, he will not take on UK drivers even though he legally has to pay all his drivers the same money.

So you have 100 would be taxi driver unemployed in plymouth or moved on to other jobs.

As a non driver I use taxi's alot and these guys can do the job no doubt, but they lack the local area knowledge that the local drivers and don't bring the extra 10% that the local cabbies do.

For the local ecconomy there is no benefit as these are not extra jobs, they are jobs that would have been filled by locals but no are not and the service is reduced.

I agree with that. You guys need a decent St George's day or something. I met this girl, her parents are from Guyana, but she was born in London, raised in London, and has never lived anywhere else. She's Enlgish. Yet when we spoke, she kept saying she was "British". She said saying "English" didn't feel right, as though English had to mean "white". It's ridiculous. She's as "English" as RJ. This whole notion of identity needs to be sorted out.



Also agree. I actually think being PC is a good thing, but some people take it way too far. Call Christmas Christmas. Play Carols. Put up your England flag if you feel like it. All these council decisions are retarded...



That's a completely different topic, though. That's about the EU and the common market. Cool debate to have, but it in practice it has nothing to do with identity, cultures, or political correctness. It's all about economics. And, short of withdrawing from the EU, there's bugger all anyone can do about this. If it's any comfort, though, racist French people also constantly bang on about Polish plumbers stealing their jobs, so maybe the Plymouth Taxi drivers should get in contact with them...