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#1 Nov 24 2008 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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To celebrate the upcoming Obama administration, I asked you, who is your pick for most badass cabinet member ever?

Is it Janet Reno and her guns-a-blazing, take no prisoner attitudes in Waco and with Elias Gonzalez? Is it Henry Kissinger and his Barbara Walters loving brand of banality and evil? Or is it the multiheaded serpent of the Bush neoconservative cabinet, headed by Cheney who reminds me of the emperor from Star Wars?

I go for someone wacky. Remember Alexander Haig? Despite the fact that the order of succession is clearly laid out, Haig said, ***** it and took over the presidency after Reagan was shot.

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Constitutionally, gentlemen, you have the President, the Vice President and the Secretary of State in that order, and should the President decide he wants to transfer the helm to the Vice President, he will do so. He has not done that. As of now, I am in control here, in the White House, pending return of the Vice President and in close touch with him. If something came up, I would check with him, of course.


That was awesomely insane. That was one of my favorite political moments ever just b/c it was so ****** up. Haig would have really enjoyed Dubya's administration so much more than his own, though it is also funny to think of it in connection to Phil Hartman's hilarious SNL sketch about what it was like if we lived in a world of a competent and intelligent Ronald Reagan.
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#2 Nov 24 2008 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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If I recall, Haig was promptly put in his place by pretty much everyone at the time.


I'm not sure what you mean by 'most badass', but my nomination for worse cabinet member ever would have to go to Robert McNamara.

Time/CNN has a nice list.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1858691_1858690_1858521,00.html

Edited, Nov 24th 2008 2:51pm by Deathwysh
#3 Nov 24 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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If we consider the Vice President as a cabinet member, then I'd have to say Cheney wins hands down. Bad ticker and all, he pulled some serious strings. Somewhere Rasputin is smiling.

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#4 Nov 24 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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Perhaps the guy who shot someone in the face and made them apologize for it.

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#5 Nov 24 2008 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Totem wrote:
If we consider the Vice President as a cabinet member
Is there a section of our government that man isn't part of?
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#6 Nov 24 2008 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
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Deathwysh wrote:
If I recall, Haig was promptly put in his place by pretty much everyone at the time.


I'm not sure what you mean by 'most badass', but my nomination for worse cabinet member ever would have to go to Robert McNamara.

Time/CNN has a nice list.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1858691_1858690_1858521,00.html

Edited, Nov 24th 2008 2:51pm by Deathwysh


Really, most frighteningly ****** up. But while Haig was smacked down quickly, those few heady moments where he was in charge was pretty disconcerting indeed.

But Robert McNamara. Jesus, I saw him interviewed for the documentary, Fog of War. Where did he go so horribly wrong?
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#7 Nov 24 2008 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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I get what you're driving at, but I guess I've always looked at the office of veep more as the spouse in a political marriage while the rest of the administration are the cooks, maids, butlers, etc.

The veep is a different animal from the rest of 'em.

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#8 Nov 24 2008 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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"Where did he go so horribly wrong?" --Anna

It was the whole Big Three auto thing. Just like in today's economy, a car exec can't do anything right!

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#9 Nov 24 2008 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's a hard choice, but I like this quote from the linked article:

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When called to testify before Congress about his role in the firings of nine U.S. attorneys and the misuse of the NSA's domestic-eavesdropping program, Gonzales attempted to use his own incompetence as a defense, pleading ignorance about the wrongdoing that had occurred under his leadership.


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#10 Nov 24 2008 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
Everyone knows the Vice President is a member of the legislature. Smiley: schooled
#11 Nov 24 2008 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Totem wrote:
It was the whole Big Three auto thing.


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(and I'm looking at you, Red)

In the 70's there was a huge French backlash about the adoption of english pharses by teh frawgies... Le Weekend, Les Blue Jeans, les movies etc etc.

Now when I read Le Figaro and Le Monde I see a startling number of what I can only call anglo-neologisms.

In recent days I've seen:
Le Credit Crunch
Le Binge Drinking
L'American Way of Life (I kid you not)

And this week "La probleme Americaine des Big Three" Smiley: oyvey

FFS!

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"La probleme Americaine des Big Three" Smiley: oyvey

FFS!

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L' Americaine menage a' trois?
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#13 Nov 24 2008 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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The South Park depiction of Reno was nails.

She gets my vote.
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#14 Nov 24 2008 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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Funny that no one has named a good one yet.

Harry J. Anslinger for the drugs, Alexander Hamilton for the money, and **** Cheney for the love of the game.
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Now when I read Le Figaro and Le Monde I see a startling number of what I can only call anglo-neologisms.


Bizarrely, I was just thinking the same thing when I was reading Le Monde online. (Because the US coverage of the Parti Socialiste leadership struggle apparently doesn't sell much beer, not just to be a pretentious ****.)

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#16 Nov 24 2008 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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(and I'm looking at you, Red)

In the 70's there was a huge French backlash about the adoption of english pharses by teh frawgies... Le Weekend, Les Blue Jeans, les movies etc etc.


And the 80s, and the 90s, and the early 00s: balladeur (walkman), courrier electronique (email), etc...

We've even had laws that ensured that every foreign word used in France had a French translation, that official documents couldn't contain any of those words, and that radio/tv stations' playlists must be at least 40% in French. That, and we spend hundreds of millions of Euros each year promoting "Francophonie" elsewhere in the world.

So yeah, dunno what happened.

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#17 Nov 24 2008 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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(Because the US coverage of the Parti Socialiste leadership struggle apparently doesn't sell much beer, not just to be a pretentious @#%^.)


It's a disgrace. To be perfectly honest, I'm slightly ashamed to call myself a French socialist theses days. For a long time in France we had "La Droite la plus conne du monde", but it seems that the socialists are fighting hard to appropriate that title.

I'm not enthused with either movement inside the party. The hard left is not very realistic, and the soft left has completely run out of ideas. They can't reconcile themselves ideologically, one half of the party being stuck in the 70s, and the other in the 90s. I do quite like the gay guy, though, but apparently France is not ready for a gay President. Strauss-Khan is ok too, but he won't quit his job for the leadership of such a divided party.

So we're fucked for a little while longer. At least until Sarko starts trying to reform France properly. Then the socialists will have something to unite themselves around.
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So we're fucked for a little while longer. At least until Sarko starts trying to reform France properly. Then the socialists will have something to unite themselves around.
Neaner, neaner, neaner.
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#19 Nov 24 2008 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Forget the badass cabinet members, anybody ever read an autobiography on OLD HICKORY?

Now there was a bad MotherFucker.
#20 Nov 24 2008 at 10:52 PM Rating: Good
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This version of Rahm Emanuel is pretty bad ***.

And Jeremy Piven can even play him in the Obama movie!
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#21 Nov 25 2008 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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They asked me, but I had to turn them down because of party affiliation and the fact that they weren't hardcore enough to run with my crew.
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