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#1 Nov 14 2008 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I've got tickets to see today's matinee opening of the new Bond film. I'll be sure to spoil it for you and give you all the details and plot twists. I love ******** with you guys that way.

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#2 Nov 14 2008 at 9:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, I'd probably rather read your synopsis than watch the movie anyway.

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#3 Nov 14 2008 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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What?!? Blasphemy! James Bond is the very essence of male pugilistic, sexual, and dapper sartorial prowess! A template to which all men should aspire! Bah, You're a mere woman. You wouldn't understand.

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#4 Nov 14 2008 at 9:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, okay, Totes. I'll look forward to the spoilers.

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#5 Nov 14 2008 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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Here's a preview: He kicks a$$ and wins in the end. But how he kicks a$$ and wins is what I will soon reveal. Muwahahahahaha!

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#6 Nov 14 2008 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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From what I've read in various reviews of the new Bond flick, it sounds vastly disappointing. A shame too, considering how much I enjoyed the last one.
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#7 Nov 14 2008 at 12:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hubby knows how much I'm in heat over Daniel Craig so we have tickets for tonight's showing and dinner at Bing Crosby's Restaurant and Piano Bar beforehand. I cannot wait for tonight.

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#8 Nov 14 2008 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard its one step away from an uninspired action hero flick :( Mainly, that Bond in this film is not really an intelligent secret agent, but just a gun shooting , *** kicking action character like The Transporter.

Makes me a sad panda.
#9 Nov 14 2008 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
I've heard comparisons with the Bourne series. Now that would be rather scarily bad I must admit.
#10 Nov 14 2008 at 6:27 PM Rating: Good
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Yep, it ended just as I predicted! Big surprise there. Enjoyed it though.

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#11 Nov 14 2008 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
Mmm, motor oil.
#12 Nov 15 2008 at 3:44 AM Rating: Good
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I liked it, although I admit the plot will be forgotten within a few weeks.

Daniel Craig is the second best bond ever Smiley: inlove
#13 Nov 15 2008 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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My sense of this film is that it is very frantic, unlike the slower pace of previous Bond films. Much of the action happens in a blur, leaving you to try to figure out what is occuring on the screen. At times I was left wondering what just happened, only to catch up with the frenzy of activity going on at the moment.

Still, it was a good Bond movie-- certainly head and shoulders better than any Roger Moore episode and even some Connery ones. Yet it lacked the subtlety of Casino Royale, mostly because the plotline is somewhat convoluted-- like when a bunch of bad guys congregate at an outdoor opera instead of a secret underground lair in the Carribean.

Oh well.

Craig is satisfyingly and violently macho, strutting, cat-like, and suave. His one Bond girl, Strawberry Fields is gorgeous, but like a red shirt in a Star Trek film, dies rather quickly.

Speaking of which, a new ST film is due out next year where Kirk and Spock are just beginning their careers. I saw the trailer yesterday. :))

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#14 Nov 15 2008 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Speaking of which, a new ST film is due out next year where Kirk and Spock are just beginning their careers. I saw the trailer yesterday. :))

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And for the Heroes fans, Sylar is the young Spock.

Edited, Nov 16th 2008 5:10pm by Belkira
#15 Nov 17 2008 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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My sense of this film is that it is very frantic

I wish movie directors would quit this ******* habit of having every action scene filmed by a rabid monkey in the throes of an epileptic episode. How hard is it to actually use a tripod? Smiley: motz

I think movie makers are relying more on the viewers missing mistakes than on choreographing a nice fight scene. The Bourne trilogy comes to mind, as do many of the recent action movies, including Quantum of Solace.
#16 Nov 17 2008 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
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Totem wrote:
My sense of this film is that it is very frantic, unlike the slower pace of previous Bond films. Much of the action happens in a blur, leaving you to try to figure out what is occuring on the screen. At times I was left wondering what just happened, only to catch up with the frenzy of activity going on at the moment.

Still, it was a good Bond movie-- certainly head and shoulders better than any Roger Moore episode and even some Connery ones. Yet it lacked the subtlety of Casino Royale, mostly because the plotline is somewhat convoluted-- like when a bunch of bad guys congregate at an outdoor opera instead of a secret underground lair in the Carribean.

Oh well.

Craig is satisfyingly and violently macho, strutting, cat-like, and suave. His one Bond girl, Strawberry Fields is gorgeous, but like a red shirt in a Star Trek film, dies rather quickly.


I have to agree with the frantic pace of the film. I was disappointed with the lack of subtle and finer points that made Casino Royale such a good movie. Strawberry Fields as a bond girl was extremely disappointing. Her part was fluff (like almost every Bond girl) but she really didn't have to be written into the movie. The other Bond girl was a disappointment to me. She's supposed to be married/involved with a guy in the super secret organization of crime and that guy couldn't have her killed easily? She kept popping up when it seemed like she would be gone from the story and I kept wondering how the hell did she get there?

I have to admit, the opera scene was my favorite scene. But the best part of the movie? Strawberry Fields trying to check into a crappy hotel with the cover of teachers on Sabbatical and then Bond taking them to a 5 star hotel with the same cover. That was great.


Even with the storyline, Judi Dench and Daniel Craig kept it together. Their acting really was strong, particularly Judi Dench. Daniel Craig did what he was exactly supposed to do....be a very direct, macho and suave man's man. But seriously, with the amount of bathing suit shots we got in Casino Royale, they couldn't throw out some scene to show off his body? As a female, that is something I was expecting and I almost cried not getting to see a good view of his pecs, abs, thighs, biceps.....

Edit: I forgot to say that I didn't like Alicia Keys and Jack White's song. It didn't seem to fit.

Edited, Nov 17th 2008 9:50am by Thumbelyna
#17 Nov 18 2008 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
Saw the movie with a girl I know. She apparently has never seen a Bond film before, and in a full theatre asks...

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Her: "Who does Bond work for?"

Me (as people around us give us strange looks): Smiley: oyvey


That aside, the film was way too action packed. It lacked the moments of subtlety that even the previous film, Casino Royale, had. There was never really a chance for the viewer to catch his/her breath, and the plot at times was not explained as well as it could have been.

What was the point of Camille? She seemed about as useful as Mary Goodnight in The Man With The Golden Gun, only her *** didn't accidentally touch the button that destroyed Scaramanga's island base.

This film DID contain the laziest pickup line I've ever heard Bond use: Bond: "I can't find the um... the stationary. Do you want to help me look?"

I liked the fluidity of the film, however. It never felt like it was stumbling or slowing down, and the references to Ken Adam's work (and especially to Goldfinger) was incredibly welcome and pleasing to the eyes. I like Craig as Bond, and the new M (Yes, she's still the 'new' M to me Smiley: mad). The introduction of the new SPECTRE-esque group was welcome as well, and I hope to see them return in the future. And as noted above...I loved the opera scene as well.

Classic Bond wit and humor.

Now, to wait for it to come out on Blu-Ray and DVD. Smiley: nod
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#18 Nov 18 2008 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
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That aside, the film was way too action packed.


I think they tried to contrast the last film. In my opinion the last movie was slow and full of errors.
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the plot at times was not explained as well as it could have been.

I was worried about this so I watched the previouse movie the same day so it would be fresh in my mind. I think thats what kept things pretty clear for me any way.
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I liked the fluidity of the film, however. It never felt like it was stumbling or slowing down, and the references to Ken Adam's work (and especially to Goldfinger) was incredibly welcome and pleasing to the eyes. I like Craig as Bond, and the new M (Yes, she's still the 'new' M to me ). The introduction of the new SPECTRE-esque group was welcome as well, and I hope to see them return in the future. And as noted above...I loved the opera scene as well.


I agree 100%


In all I think it was a very solid film. Although I really didn't like Casino Royal but this was a whole different story.

#19 Nov 19 2008 at 10:13 PM Rating: Good
I liked it.

Not as "in depth" as Casino Royale, but good on the action.

I liked the twist with Vesper's ex @ the end. The "Oh ****" look on his face was priceless.
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#20 Nov 20 2008 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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I liked it quite a bit. Bond hasn't ever really been subtle. Even Brosnan's Bond kind of careened from one place to another, and wasn't really a subtle secret agent. Connery's certainly wasn't subtle, either. Of them, maybe Dalton played Bond as more intellectual and less action hero like.

Daniel Crag, in these movies, is meant to be a blunt instrument. They're teaching him to be a full agent, but, as its noted in the first film, he's just starting out and he's mostly just been a hired hand. Remember, this movie takes place literally minutes after the last movie ended, as the chase at the beginning indicates. He's still dealing with grief, anger, and despair, so his tendency to kill people who attack him is rather unsurprising.

He's showing signs of having potential to be the suave secret agent he'll eventually become, but he's not there yet.
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#21 Nov 24 2008 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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I wish movie directors would quit this @#%^ing habit of having every action scene filmed by a rabid monkey in the throes of an epileptic episode. How hard is it to actually use a tripod? --danieldakkak

This film was shot in the John Woo tradition of moviemaking: wiggling camerawork, amped-up action scenes so over the top that the viewer has no chance to realize the sheer physics of what is happening would require a suspension of the laws of gravity and momentum. Broken Arrow, Mission Impossible 2, and Face Off are examples of his work. Personally, I find that non-stop action to be as irritating as the camera jiggling in The Blair Witch Project.

Granted, nobody goes into a Bond flick expecting the movie version of Waiting For MI6's Godot, but some pacing and expansion of the plotline, at the very least, gives the viewer the framework for why Bond is leaping through fire to get to the villain. Mind you, I don't want to see Moonraker or Octopussy, but if I wanted Fast and Furious, I'd go rent it from the video store. Stop with the meth-addled pace of action. Please. Bond films have always been about high tech gadgets, women, and JB fighting himself out of a near death experience. Casino Royale upped the stakes and made the Bond series actually worthy of the genre "thriller," but QoS dropped the ball.

Fortunately, as Thumbs has already said, Craig and Dench held it together by virtue of the strength of their acting and force of personality.

By the way, did anybody else expect Dench's male secretary to be a secret member of the evil cabal as well? When the bad guy said, "We are everywhere," I half expected the secretary to be feeding information to the baddies the whole time as to what M and 007 were doing.

/shrug

Oh well. Better luck next time, I guess. At least we won't have Roger Moore to kick around anymore.

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