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#1 Nov 11 2008 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
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WHAT IS A VET?

Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a
Jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence
inside them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the
leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel: the soul's ally forged in
the refinery of adversity. Except in parades, however, the men and women
who have kept America safe wear no badge or emblem. You can't tell a vet
just by looking.

What is a vet? He is the cop on the beat who spent six
months in Saudi Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure the
armored personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel. He is the barroom
loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose overgrown frat-boy
behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by four
hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. She - or he - is the
nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep sobbing every night
for two solid years in Da Nang. He is the POW who went away one person
and came back another - or didn't come back AT ALL. He is the TRADOC
drill instructor who has never seen combat - but has saved countless
lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members into
soldiers, and teaching them to watch each other's backs. He is the
parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals with a
prosthetic hand. He is the career logistician who watches the ribbons
and medals pass him by. He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of
The Unknowns, whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must
forever preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies
unrecognized with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless
deep. He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied
now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a **** death camp and
who wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when
the nightmares come.

He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human
being - a person who offered some of his life's most vital years in the
service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would
not have to sacrifice theirs. He is a soldier and a savior and a sword
against the darkness, and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest
testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known. So
remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just
lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most
cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or
were warded.

Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU".

Remember November 11th is Veterans Day "It is the soldier, not the
reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not
the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the
campus organizer, Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the
soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, And whose
coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protestor to burn the
Flag."
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#2 Nov 11 2008 at 4:53 AM Rating: Decent
You misspelled protester.
#3 Nov 11 2008 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Soldier worship never really went down with me.
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#5 Nov 11 2008 at 5:07 AM Rating: Decent
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He fixes your....Oh. You mean like a vet.

I see what you did there.
#6 Nov 11 2008 at 5:18 AM Rating: Decent
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
He fixes my doggy.
When I was a little girl, I honestly believed that the people who treated pets were former soldiers who knew how to do it because they had to take care of their army horses.
#7 Nov 11 2008 at 5:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Mindel wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
He fixes my doggy.
When I was a little girl, I honestly believed that the people who treated pets were former soldiers who knew how to do it because they had to take care of their army horses.
Horses? What are you, Anna?
#8 Nov 11 2008 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Mindel wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
He fixes my doggy.
When I was a little girl, I honestly believed that the people who treated pets were former soldiers who knew how to do it because they had to take care of their army horses.
Horses? What are you, Anna?
My grandmother was addicted to television. My early understanding of the US Army was mostly gleaned from F Troop reruns.
#9 Nov 11 2008 at 5:25 AM Rating: Good
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Mindel wrote:
My early understanding of the US Army was mostly gleaned from F Troop reruns.
And now that theme song will be stuck in my head for the rest of the day.


"...before they resume, with a bang and a boom...." DAMN YOU.

Edited, Nov 11th 2008 7:25am by AshOnMyTomatoes
#10 Nov 11 2008 at 5:31 AM Rating: Good
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Mindel wrote:
My early understanding of the US Army was mostly gleaned from F Troop reruns.
And now that theme song will be stuck in my head for the rest of the day.


"...before they resume, with a bang and a boom...." DAMN YOU.

Edited, Nov 11th 2008 7:25am by AshOnMyTomatoes
Yeah, well, you implied that I'm old so go fuck yourself.

ETA: Ash, did you know that Ken Berry and Leonard Nimoy served in the army together? Nimoy was his sergeant.

Now this post is topical.

Edited, Nov 11th 2008 8:38am by Mindel
#11 Nov 11 2008 at 5:35 AM Rating: Good
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Soldier worship never really went down with me.

What about soldier pity?


I'm into a priori soldier pity.
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Aripyanfar wrote:
zepoodle wrote:
Soldier worship never really went down with me.

What about soldier pity?


I'm into a priori soldier pity.


Well, I naturally feel sad. They're dying for what are usually super stupid reasons. I just can't really respect people because they were killed or maimed for super stupid reasons.

I'm also sick to fucking death of hearing Gallipoli war stories. It was one goddamn battle, people, and it was a dumb one.

Edited, Nov 11th 2008 8:40am by zepoodle
#13 Nov 11 2008 at 5:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm also sick to fucking death of hearing Gallipoli war stories. It was one goddamn battle, people, and it was a dumb one.

Edited, Nov 11th 2008 8:40am by zepoodle

Don't fret, mon ami, the ABC spent the whole day with various documentaries explaining that Gallipolli wasn't the be-all and end-all of Australian events in WW1, and spent the day focusing on the hi-jinks of General Monash and his brigade in Western Europe instead.

Edited, Nov 11th 2008 8:53am by Aripyanfar
#14 Nov 11 2008 at 6:06 AM Rating: Good
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I'm also sick to fucking death of hearing Gallipoli war stories. It was one goddamn battle, people, and it was a dumb one.

Edited, Nov 11th 2008 8:40am by zepoodle

Don't fret, mon ami, the ABC spent the whole day with various documentaries explaining that Gallipolli wasn't the be-all and end-all of Australian events in WW1, and spent the day focusing on the hi-jinks of General Monash and his brigade in Western Europe instead.


My personal favourite is Verdun, but we've all got our own little favourite WWI battle, I suppose.



Edited, Nov 11th 2008 2:11pm by RedPhoenixxx
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Ypres. I just like saying it, really.

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#16 Nov 11 2008 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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Today I heard that Canada also traces an historical movement of Canadians thinking about themselves as Canadians, rather than British/French citizens, from one of the battles of WW1.

Sadly I forgot the name of the town as soon as I heard it. It might even be Verdun.
#17 Nov 11 2008 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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What is plagiarism?

If you're all so fired up about giving credit where credit is due, at least give the man that wrote that drivel credit for it. He was a veteran too, btw, Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Lt. Col., USMC.
#18 Nov 11 2008 at 6:48 AM Rating: Good
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Today I heard that Canada also traces an historical movement of Canadians thinking about themselves as Canadians, rather than British/French citizens, from one of the battles of WW1.

Sadly I forgot the name of the town as soon as I heard it. It might even be Verdun.
You're thinking of the Battle of Vimy Ridge, I think.
#19 Nov 11 2008 at 6:49 AM Rating: Decent
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There is in fact a lonely quotation mark right at the end of the post, leading me to believe rosleck intended it to be a quote but copy-pasted it poorly.
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I don't think that Rosleck intended to make anyone think he wrote the column himself.

I'm down with the jist of the OP although, and I hate to bring it up because folks are already grousing about a pretty harmless post, I bristle slightly at the "It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press..." line. Can't it be both? Freedom of speech, religion, dissent, etc requires more than a gun and a uniform and there's no need to diminish those who've risked life or property to fight for those rights in civilian circle in order to uplift those who went to war.
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#21 Nov 11 2008 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
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I don't think that Rosleck intended to make anyone think he wrote the column himself.

I'm down with the jist of the OP although, and I hate to bring it up because folks are already grousing about a pretty harmless post, I bristle slightly at the "It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press..." line. Can't it be both? Freedom of speech, religion, dissent, etc requires more than a gun and a uniform and there's no need to diminish those who've risked life or property to fight for those rights in civilian circle in order to uplift those who went to war.
I think he intended to post overplayed, mindless glurge.

Which he did.
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I bristle slightly at the "It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press..." line. Can't it be both? Freedom of speech, religion, dissent, etc requires more than a gun and a uniform and there's no need to diminish those who've risked life or property to fight for those rights in civilian circle in order to uplift those who went to war.


Journalists have died in war. Protesters have died while protesting.

We should get them their own day.

This is the kind of resistance that led, in 18th century America, to still further oppression by the government. However, but for their subsequent willingness to take up arms in defense of their individual and collective freedoms, we'd all be posting in English.
#23 Nov 11 2008 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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While there are many great and selfless people of various professions that have helped to make this country what it is...today IS Veteran's Day, so my thanks and respect go out to them all.

A post I made elsewhere, ugh 3 years ago now (kinda suprised it's still there), a real life hero's tale. This guys story still pops into my head on occasion.
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#24 Nov 11 2008 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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zepoodle wrote:
I just can't really respect people because they were killed or maimed for super stupid reasons.


Yes, by all means, don't respect the people who fight and die for democracy, freedom, and human rights.
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#25 Nov 11 2008 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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A vet is someone who gets to wear a badge like this, just like I do Smiley: smile
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" I may be a flag waver but I can't think of a better flag to wave." The original jonwin, not my toon.

On 11/11/1944 James Guy, my mother's only brother was KIA. He could have stayed home safe from draft as a farm worker, but joined the 82nd Airborne instead.
Sunday I met a vet who had lost a leg. I proudly shook his hand.
As manager of the Civil War museum I gladly shook the hand of a man who when he was a teen had shaken hands with veterans of the War of Rebellion.
When I was a teen I heard my dad talk about his service with friends, most of them in law enforcement as was he. I came in late but was told they had really been honest about it. Later on I talked to one of my mom's friends, who as an Austrian citizen, was drafted into the Wermacht.
In 1975 I breathed a sigh of relief that my draft number was 323.

While we are at home or at work someone somewhere is helping to protect us.
They may not always be the best of people, and maybe someday this world won't need them, but until we do, I will always give them my respect.

Feel free to mock or disagree, its what makes this country.

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