The emotional side of Prop 8Follow

Didn't your momma ever teach you that two wrongs don't make a right? Complaining about the legality of abortion has nothing to do with whether same sex marriage should be legal.

Double-s delight:D

It varies from state to state. From what I understand, Tennessee is among the states with the least-liberal (look at me not using weasel words!) laws regarding trans people. In many states, once a person has changed their legal paperwork, they can only marry people of the sex opposite their new legal sex. An interesting corollary, however, is that so far no courts have been willing to contest an existing marriage of a trans person to a spouse who is, post legal change, of the same gender, leaving people who live in states where same-sex marriages are strictly prohibited in legally recognized marriages with people of the same sex. :)

Edited, Nov 14th 2008 3:02pm by Mindel

I am going to move to Tennessee to advocate for the rights of undead babies.

But yeah, Tennessee, Ohio, and Florida are considered the "worst" states for trans folk to live in. See what you learn when you volunteer with an LBGT free clinic?

Lul. :)

I used to work a lot with this trans guy named Kyle who was all excited about getting his paperwork changed so he and his girlfriend of 6 years could finally get married.

I didn't get invited to the wedding, though, if they ever had it.

I would always bring him an latte, too.

And once again, you make the error of calling "equal rights" special treatment.



So, now that your absurd strawman about fetuses is pretty well exhausted, you are actually trying to equate homosexuality with pedophilia?

A 13 or 14 year old is not capable of giving informed consent under the law, and the biggest reason for that is that adolescents are scientifically proven to have less developed brains with less capability of making rational informed choices. A grown homosexual adult is fully capable of informed consent.



My opinion of their abilities has nothing to do with it. Science has shown that neurological development is not fully completed in adolescents, which is why they have a higher tendency toward rash, risky, and unwise decisions. The age of consent protects them from themselves and their immature brains.



And I agree. If fully consenting informed ADULTS wish to enter into a plural marriage, more power to them. I'm all in favor of polyamory, so long as it's not the result of religious and cultural coercion inflicted upon unwilling partners.



The basis that there is no logical rationale for denying consenting adults the right to form a legally recognized marital union.



Easy peasy. Immature brain and decision-making capabilities in adolescents is a neurological, scientifically proven fact, therefore excluding them from the group of people allowed to make informed-consent decisions is perfect sound and reasonable restriction. No such restriction has any business existing for adults.

I've noticed this before. And since this thread has turned somewhat into a discussion about abortion, why does it always seem to be the men who seem to have the most difficult time accepting it? You'd think women would be more rabid about stopping abortions, what with our "motherly instinct" and all. Or maybe it's because a lot of us have had that little parasite in us, and lain awake at night during those first few weeks of pregnancy, sick because we know our lives are about to change forever and do we really want to do this???

Eh, I'm rambling, trying to kill time at work.

It's not. It's a potential human. Until it has the ability to be self-sustaining and sentient, it's not a person, it's a parasitical organism.