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#27 Nov 10 2008 at 4:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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#28 Nov 10 2008 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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See what I'm saying? sh*t like that is PRICELESS! If you want your voice to be heard by policymakers, it's really simple: deliver them large sacks of cash. Everything else is mocked and laughed at. Period. Welcome to the political process.


I liked you better in your drunk thread, all idealistic and ****. Now you're all mr. frownypants and it makes me sad.
#29 Nov 10 2008 at 4:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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See what I'm saying? sh*t like that is PRICELESS! If you want your voice to be heard by policymakers, it's really simple: deliver them large sacks of cash. Everything else is mocked and laughed at. Period. Welcome to the political process.


I liked you better in your drunk thread, all idealistic and sh*t. Now you're all mr. frownypants and it makes me sad.


Only 4 more years til the reelection!

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#30 Nov 10 2008 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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You judge by US standards. Although European countries do legislate on similar principles of greed and self preservation there are times when the common interest comes before cost. It was the principle under which the EU was setup


Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

No, god, no. What are you, eleven? The EU was set up for a reason other than to enrich Europe relative to the rest of the world?? Are you on drugs, or just really that ignorant?



If Blair and Brown had not been so utterly unpopular


Yeah, Tony Blair will without question go down as the least popular British PM in history. What a terrible time of it he had, barely able to avoid constant votes of no confidence.


Greed is good


It's not good, it's what there is. People are suckers, the candidate with the most money almost always wins. That's how democratic government functions, the side with the most cash in aggregate imposes their will on everyone else. That's the FUCKING DESIGN, you simpleton. It was the case with the Delian League, it was the case for Disraeli, Washington, Jefferson, Churchill, de Gaulle, etc etc etc. It will be the case until human beings aren't easily manipulated by the application of wealth.

Give me a ring when that happens and we can revisit this.







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#31 Nov 10 2008 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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No, god, no. What are you, eleven? The EU was set up for a reason other than to enrich Europe relative to the rest of the world?? Are you on drugs, or just really that ignorant?


Oh sorry, should I have said EEC, European Economic Community. Research some history before commenting. I know history is obviously a new concept to you but I would suggest spending a few minutes reading up about the topic at hand. Caffeine is my only drug darlin'

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Yeah, Tony Blair will without question go down as the least popular British PM in history. What a terrible time of it he had, barely able to avoid constant votes of no confidence.


He was in bed your incumbant. Thats enough to destory anyones reputation. Or is that not why McCain did not wish to be seen with Bush under any circumstances on his campaign? No one wishes to see a site about someone they do not like.

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It's not good, it's what there is. People are suckers, the candidate with the most money almost always wins. That's how democratic government functions, the side with the most cash in aggregate imposes their will on everyone else. That's the ******* DESIGN, you simpleton. It was the case with the Delian League, it was the case for Disraeli, Washington, Jefferson, Churchill, de Gaulle, etc etc etc. It will be the case until human beings aren't easily manipulated by the application of wealth.

Give me a ring when that happens and we can revisit this.


One thing overrides money in all instances, Health.
Case in point, the NHS. Again its not always about the cost else countries like mine would lack such fine institutions. Cost is always a huge factor but it can be ignored to accomplish an ideal. You should know about this. You went to space instead of building hospitals Smiley: wink

And when people become old and grey and rich in America, where does all that money go? Health. Sometimes money is not the driver of voters or government. It can be time/liberty/health or in the case of ego sating heads of state "legacy" (and I hope Blair and Bush enjoy thiers!!!!)

So as I stated, I'd love to see how well his site is received, when we vote out our pretender I would like to know all that David Cameron is doing Smiley: smile
#33 Nov 10 2008 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I vaguely remember a thread about this, but I would love to have a year of mandatory "volunteering" something after you graduate from high school. I would see it as a choice between a number of different programs, so a person could choose the one that best suits them. Of course I did something like this by myself and it was fantastic.

Like the military?
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#34 Nov 10 2008 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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I'd see the military as being one of the obvious choices, but there could be other ones as well.
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#35 Nov 11 2008 at 1:20 AM Rating: Good
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No, god, no. What are you, eleven? The EU was set up for a reason other than to enrich Europe relative to the rest of the world?? Are you on drugs, or just really that ignorant?


Oh sorry, should I have said EEC, European Economic Community.


Technically, you should have said the European Coal and Steel Community. The EEC only came way later. The aim of the ECSC was to create a common market for coal and steel, the two main raw products in the machniery of warfare at the time. This, they thought, would not only help them (France and Germany) to get prosperous a bit quicker, it would also ensure peace between those two countries. I don't think it's possible to ignore the "peace" element in the creation of the ECSC.

The ECC and the EU, though, are 80% economic and 20% political. They exist to create a common market, so that EU countries can get richer. The "political/cultural" side of it is almost inexistent.

Mostly because of the Brits, who've never wanted it to be anything else than a giant free-trade market.



Edited, Nov 11th 2008 9:21am by RedPhoenixxx
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#36 Nov 11 2008 at 4:27 AM Rating: Decent
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GwynapNud, Assassin Reject wrote:
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No, god, no. What are you, eleven? The EU was set up for a reason other than to enrich Europe relative to the rest of the world?? Are you on drugs, or just really that ignorant?


Oh sorry, should I have said EEC, European Economic Community. Research some history before commenting. I know history is obviously a new concept to you but I would suggest spending a few minutes reading up about the topic at hand. Caffeine is my only drug darlin'


If you can't even be bothered to name the proper organization in your argument, perhaps it shouldn't be up to you to tell people that they need to do more research.
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