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#52 Nov 06 2008 at 6:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Btw, I think you may have forgotten, you were pretty rabidly supporting McCain last week


I all ready articulated my position unless of course you glanced over and failed to acknowledge. McCain was FAR better than Barack, of course I was going to "rabidly" push for him over the loony Obama. I don't want San Franciscan values and all other sorts of far left crap. I ALL READY articulated I didn't support McCain on many issues and laid them out. I wanted a true conservative republican to stick their principles to get elected, in 2012 I hope we can get one in. There are many up and coming in my party.



Wait, so the viewpoints of the Democratic party are from San Fransisco? Or Barack is? Or his viewpoints are? Or are you being biased against San Fransisco? Is it because of the high gay population there? What WAS your point behind that?

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Then why did Palin consistently have 7, 10, 15 times more supporters at her rallies? She fired up our base at the RNC, and carried it through. You really have no clue. The base was luke-warm at best with McCain (Remember our base is CONSERVATIVE something McCain is not) (Palin is a CONSERVATIVE), when he announced Palin they got energized. Very simple. Something I think most can agree on.


So she got more of your base to go to rallies. Whoop-de-doo! Guess what, the majority of them were going to vote McCain anyway! Still not 40%, it was still a ridiculous statement.
#53 Nov 06 2008 at 7:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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You keep bringing religion into the mix when you bring up "far right".
Well, no -- I was bringing up the fact that moderates and independants fled from her and cited her as a reason not to vote for the ticket.
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Everyone else was a rich SOB.
Biden is a rich SOB? Who knew?
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(She makes around 200,000-250,000) not that much at all especially for a politician.
Senate salaries are around $168k annually. Alaska's governor salary is $125k. A definate difference but not a vast gulf.
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#54REDACTED, Posted: Nov 06 2008 at 7:08 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) You honestly believe that politicians only source of income is from their "salaries". My god lady what world do you live in! Certainly not the one I do.
#55 Nov 06 2008 at 7:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Oh come on. Abortion in America was never an issue in the US until the 20th century, when the religious right decided to make it an issue. Ergo pills used to be sold over the counter.

George Washington did not run on a platform of "God, guns, and life at conception!"
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AmorTonight wrote:
You honestly believe that politicians only source of income is from their "salaries". My god lady what world do you live in! Certainly not the one I do.
I was refering to Biden, mainly. Who you declared to be a "rich SOB". His combined income with his wife for last year was $320k composed of his senate salary, his wife's salary and some royalties (I assume from Biden's book once upon a time).

Are you saying that someone making a combined household $320k is a "rich SOB"? Careful now... you're leaving the Republican party reservation here Smiley: laugh
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#57 Nov 06 2008 at 7:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Really? The base I knew seemed to support him. I'm sorry that you, your friends, and your family are all traitors. For shame, for shame.


Then why did Palin consistently have 7, 10, 15 times more supporters at her rallies?


For the same reason that more kids will attend a birthday party that has a clown than one that doesn't.
#58 Nov 06 2008 at 7:56 PM Rating: Good
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Amor, making three posts in a row just gives us more posts to rate you down with.
#59REDACTED, Posted: Nov 06 2008 at 8:05 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) Biden is a millionaire unless you didn't get the memo did you?
#60 Nov 06 2008 at 8:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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AmorTonight wrote:
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I was refering to Biden, mainly. Who you declared to be a "rich SOB". His combined income with his wife for last year was $320k composed of his senate salary, his wife's salary and some royalties (I assume from Biden's book once upon a time).

Are you saying that someone making a combined household $320k is a "rich SOB"? Careful now... you're leaving the Republican party reservation her


Biden is a millionaire unless you didn't get the memo did you?


Oh sweetie, you are so ill-informed.

She showed up in front of John McCain campaign aides "wearing nothing but a towel?"
She didn't know Africa was a continent?

Oh Sarah, your legend will live on.

Edited, Nov 6th 2008 11:12pm by Annabella
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#61 Nov 06 2008 at 8:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Biden is a millionaire unless you didn't get the memo did you?
When come back bring syntax.
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#62 Nov 06 2008 at 9:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I love it when they start foaming at the mouth and randomly capitalizing words.

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#63 Nov 06 2008 at 9:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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The angry aide described the Palin family shopping spree to Newsweek as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast."


Same source as OP.

She's probably unpacking a suitcase full of buffet cutlery and hotel towels as we speak.

I've always tried to be fair when thinking of opinions that diverge from my own. In truth I don't know a great deal. But I have learned to think for the most part, and I try to be honest with myself and others. I cherish argumentation whose honest goal is the truth instead of the aggrandizement of the arguer. I put high value on reason, and indeed I think it, if anything, will keep humanity from going completely over the edge.

So when I say that I think Republicanism is growing exponentially dumber and meaner with each passing year, I say it because I think it is, or at least is becoming, an objective demonstrable truth.

Sarah Palin is my evidence.

She drew huge crowds and "ignited" audiences. She riled the Republican base. And these rallies were characterized by racism and xenophobia. The ultimate result of her campaigning is deeper division among Americans and increased bitterness and hatred. But what can you expect from a campaign based on falsehood and fear-mongering, and whose implied thesis, that Obama is a Muslim terrorist and a commie, was always just a few shades of thought away.

She knew (knows) nothing, and told the base ignorance is fine, indeed it is virtuous. She set a new precedent for how ill equipped a leader some of us are willing to accept. President Bush looks like Woodrow Wilson next to her.

She abused her supporters in the most plebeian way, taking their money to gussy herself up, apparently extorting money from campaign aides to the same end. I have no reason to think that she would treat the American people any differently if she were leading.

She says she isn't a diva, then says this, referring to herself in the third person, naturally:
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"I don't think anybody should give Sarah Palin that much credit, that I would trump an economic, woeful time in this nation that occurred about two months ago, that my presence on the ticket would trump the economic crisis that America found itself in a couple of months ago and attribute John McCain's loss to me,"

"What? Little ole Sarah Palin?" *wink*

In short, ladies and gentlemen, Sarah Palin is the ***** of Babylon.

Now, Pubbies, is this really who you want to lead the country? REAAAALLYY? If your answer is still yes, then you, too, are my evidence.
#64 Nov 06 2008 at 11:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Lol. No.


Lol, yes. McCain could barely get 5,000 people to a rally. Palin brought out hundreds of thousands.



Hundreds of thousands?


I don't think any McCain/Palin rally topped 50,000. You are half right though, one candidate was getting over 100k rallies, but it wasn't McCain or Palin.
#65 Nov 07 2008 at 3:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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In short, ladies and gentlemen, Sarah Palin is the ***** of Babylon.


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#66 Nov 07 2008 at 4:07 AM Rating: Good
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Who the f*ck cares how many people she got at her rallies. She didn't get the job done, now did she?
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#67 Nov 07 2008 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Your joking right? We are like two polar opposites. He is an ultra liberal, conspiracy whining ****-in-the ***.

I am a soft spoken moderate Republican who uses Capital Letters.

ETA: And I have premium!!!!

SR uses capital letters all the time. He just seems to have his own ideas on when to use them.

But yeah no comparison, shadowrealm beats to his own drums, you're just a 6th chair percussionist.
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#68 Nov 07 2008 at 8:19 AM Rating: Default
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The whole Palin-not-knowing-Africa-is-a-continent thing sounds either apocryphal or just plain stupid. You could just as easily make the spurious claim that Obama didn't know South America is a continent. After all, I overheard some DNC staffers saying so in the hallway.

Yeah, riiiiight. C'mon, people. Actually passing these stories along as truth makes you seem even dumber than Palin ostensibly is.

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Totem wrote:
The whole Palin-not-knowing-Africa-is-a-continent thing sounds either apocryphal or just plain stupid. You could just as easily make the spurious claim that Obama didn't know South America is a continent. After all, I overheard some DNC staffers saying so in the hallway.

Yeah, riiiiight. C'mon, people. Actually passing these stories along as truth makes you seem even dumber than Palin ostensibly is.

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The whole Palin-not-knowing-Africa-is-a-continent thing sounds either apocryphal or just plain stupid.
Given those options, I'm willing to accept that Palin is just plain stupid Smiley: smile
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#71 Nov 07 2008 at 8:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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You actually need convincing that Palin is dumb as a brick?

Top 10 Dumb Sarah Palin quotes, including a few from the Katie Couric interview for which she refused coaching.

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1. "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." --Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS's Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008 (Watch video clip)

2. "We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. ... We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in Greensoboro, N.C., Oct. 16, 2008

3. "Ohh, good, thank you, yes." --Sarah Palin, after a notorious Canadian prank caller complimented her on the documentary about her life, Hustler's "Nailin Paylin," Nov. 1, 2008 (Read more about the prank call, watch the video and see the transcript)

4. "Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008 (Watch video clip)

5. "All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008 (Watch video clip)

6. "They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008

7. "[T]hey're in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom." --Sarah Palin, getting the vice president's constitutional role wrong after being asked by a third grader what the vice president does, interview with NBC affiliate KUSA in Colorado, Oct. 21, 2008 (Watch video clip)

8. "I told the Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere." –Sarah Palin, who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it

9. "If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media." --Sarah Palin, getting First Amendment rights backwards while suggesting that criticism of her is unconstitutional, radio interview with WMAL-AM, Oct. 31, 2008

10. "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council


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"We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we’re confident that we’re going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?" --Sarah Palin, suggesting we are at war with Iran, FOX News interview, Nov. 1, 2008

"I like being here because it seems like here and in our last rally too -- other parts around this great Northwest -- here in New Hampshire you just get it." --Sarah Palin, Laconia, New Hampshire, Oct. 15, 2008 (apparently not only is she sketchy on geography, she doesn't even know east from west)

"But ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy." --Sarah Palin, explaining the $700 billion government bailout of Wall Street to Karie Couric, CBS News interview, Sept. 24, 2008

"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity." --Sarah Palin, in her speech at the Republican Convention, quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be assassinated
(OMGZORZ!!! PALIN IS A FASCIST!)


#72 Nov 07 2008 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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I heard her voice while reading those quotes. If I never hear her voice again, it'll be too soon.
#73 Nov 07 2008 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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I heard her voice while reading those quotes. If I never hear her voice again, it'll be too soon.


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#74 Nov 07 2008 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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I heard her voice while reading those quotes. If I never hear her voice again, it'll be too soon.
It was the saccharin smile that did it for me, how you could ever trust a person who looks so shady is beyond me.
#75 Nov 07 2008 at 9:17 AM Rating: Excellent
Given how many schools she attended to get her degree, it's entirely possible she never had to take a college level history, poly sci, or geography class.

#76 Nov 07 2008 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
Palin was an absolutely horrible choice for a VP pick. This is coming from someone who campaigned quite heavily for McCain. She was NOT the reason why he lost the election though.

I don't think Republicans are eating their young here either. They are just calling her out for being an idiot. There's nothing wrong with that.
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