The most incredibly stupid ignorant hateful thing I've read Follow

Am I missing something about the marriage laws and tax laws? Is it written somewhere in the law books that "Legal marriage exists for the sole purpose of producing offspring and the benefits associated with it are also to promote producing offspring by promoting marriage."

Cause I'm pretty sure no where in the law does it say anything close to that. I mean... if Gbaji want to try and introduce something that would change it to say that, then maybe he could make what he is saying true.

Until then it's all just a facade put up (consciously and subconsciously) to hide the fact that these people think that the gay lifestyle is wrong and think that if they allow homosexuals to marry and have equal rights, then suddenly everyone might turn gay.

Edited, Nov 8th 2008 11:56pm by TirithRR

Assuming you're referencing The Forever War, that's Haldeman, not Heinlein.

It's not an actual argument, it's a Freudian defense.

I also realized I made a mistake earlier in this thread, and I would like to apologize to gbaji and Armor for that. It can be found on page 4. It was inconsequential, but incredibly thoughtless.

(1) Fascist:

I guess I could have substituted narrow-minded, stiff-necked chauvinist, but it just doen't roll off the tongue quite the same way.

(2) Super-right-wing: Evident by your constant parroting of the most extreme right-wingers in the media and government as paragons of truth.

(3) Whites-only: Ok, I might be wrong here, but I tend to view people through the lens of the company they keep - see: (1 & 2) above.

(4) You keep saying that it's not homosexuals who you think should not be allowed to derive the benefits of officialy sanctioned marriages, but same sex couples. I mean really, do you realize how stupid that sounds? I defy you to give me an example of a same sex couple seeking to marry who are *not* homosexual.

Type as many paragraphs as you like trying to defend your position; split a thousand hairs explaining your concept of why you think the government gives these benefits in the first place; rail against the multitude of voices of people demanding that they be treated like any other citizen of the United States of America as a bunch of greedy whiners.

In the end, all you are saying is "Gays don't need nor deserve to be treated like everyone else", hence my assertion that you are anti-gay.


By the way, since you keep declaiming that the marriage benefits are all about making babies, if a couple is non-productive or infertile would you then support removing these same benefits from them, as they will not be adding to the population? That's only fair, right, G?

You could have intelligent gay Christian parents.

To be fair, if you're suffering unwanted constant violence you may be looking for love in the wrong sorts of bars.

Yeah, oddly enough he compared it to the outdated miscegenation laws. He should really educate himself by reading gbaji's and AmorTonight's posts on the issue.

Well, he's a native German speaker. Maybe they'd make sense to him. /shrug

I watched "Twins" yesterday, and then laughed because now he's a governor.

If I'd only known Arnie from his movies, I'd have been completely incredulous that he ran for office, let alone got in. Of all movie stars, I would have put him last on my list of political wannabes. I would have thought of him being more ridiculous than Palin. But actually, every now and then through my childhood and young adulthood in the 80s and 90s one of Arnie's written articles would turn up in the broadsheet newspapers over here.

His written English is just fine. The focus of the articles was usually on childhood physical fitness, and how that interacts with education and with health and well being. He'd talk about plans for regular set physical exercises or types of physical classes in schools, and how that'd fit into the curriculum, and the long term health consequences he expected, and how prevention should be part of public health policy, not just cures. How he expected that to impact on the health budget. The articles displayed a fairly narrow focus, being on just three issues or areas, they didn't cover thought about every area a politician has to think about. But it came as no surprise to me later when he turned up in public life, interested in and running for office.

So is mine. Doesn't mean I can understand what in God's name Gbaji is prattling on about sometimes.

Could be, could be. And if it is, I have no problem with that.

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