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#1 Nov 05 2008 at 3:22 AM Rating: Excellent
Disclaimer: I just wanted to say "Thank you" to you guys. To all the people that voted, all the people on this board that got interested in politics, read-up, debated, argued, insulted, because this is what ******* democracy is all about. In some countries, we'd get arrested and put in jail for doing that.

So I wrote you a little poem, because I think it's a vastly under-utilised form of expression in this day and age, and it's kinda cute. Yes I know, the poem itself sucks, and sometimes it doesn't even rhyme, or ha number os syllables, but ***** you guys, I'm not a poet and I'm hungover.

Now GFYs, my American friends.




It's a huge little planet,
that we're all living on,
Like a ship, or a comet,
in space, on the ocean.
And yes, it's sometimes hard,
To find some common ground,
In the deafening sound,
Amidst all the retards.

My grand-pa had a brother,
A resistance fighter,
During World War Two,
Wasn't even a Jew,
But he fought, and he hid,
That man I've never seen,
When he was caught, and killed,
He'd just turned seventeen.

My grand-pa used to tell me,
"The world's a fucked-up place,
I've seen kids, believe me,
Hung with their own shoelace.
And when we were all locked,
In the heart of darkness,
The one country that rocked,
Was the United States."

Maybe I'm paraphrasing,
But I know what he meant,
And when I get a kid,
I'll tell him the same thing.

I know, there's slavery,
There is Bush, there's Cheney,
There's the Native Indians,
And hardcore religion.
But we all do mistakes,
And we all do fuck-ups,
Those stupid nation-states,
With flags on pick-up trucks.

Yet there's that little thing,
We call democracy,
Sometimes it's stupidly,
Annoying, frustrating,
But when we're electing,
For a day, we're the King,
In both of our countries,
Revolutionaries.

This poem kinda sucks,
Some will think it's *********
But it comes from the heart,
And I guess that's a start.
So thanks to all you voters,
The lefties, right-wingers,
The commies, the fascists,
Constitutionalists.

And thanks for all the rest,
The music, NOFX,
The movies, the culture,
The **** i grew up with, as a French teenager.

And thanks for Obama,
The Marxist Messiah,
And thanks for two world wars,
For dyin' on foreign shores.
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#2 Nov 05 2008 at 3:26 AM Rating: Decent
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You're welcome. Smiley: grin
#3 Nov 05 2008 at 3:38 AM Rating: Good
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Rate up for making bollox rhyme with sucks! (sort of)

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#4 Nov 05 2008 at 4:19 AM Rating: Good
Paskil wrote:
You're welcome. Smiley: grin


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#5 Nov 05 2008 at 4:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Great poem, RP.

Thank you, tiger.
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#6 Nov 05 2008 at 6:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks Red, and it was nice seeing you in IRC last night. The especially focused international attention that this election garnered made me feel our obligation to the rest of the world as a power, an influence, and a dream moreso than any of the past elections that I've been old enough to vote in. The loss of faith by not only our own citizens, but the citizens of other countries who have long looked to America as an ideal has had me remembering how touched I was by the world wide response to 9/11 and how I really cried for the first time afterward when I saw all the footage of people around the world bringing flowers to our embassies and crying at the gates for us and our loss. How we have fallen so out of favor, how their sympathies have dried up in their disappointment of where we went from there...these are things that I hope can be restored now with our selection of an inspiring leader who has held the attention and hope of people far beyond our own borders.

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#7 Nov 05 2008 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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So now the world likes us because 51% of us voted a certain way instead of 48%. Smiley: nod


#8 Nov 05 2008 at 6:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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That would be a huge margin Tricky, many countries have more than two parties and you see the leader elected with just over 30% of the vote.

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#9 Nov 05 2008 at 6:42 AM Rating: Good
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True, but I'm just saying, had Obama lost 50%-49%, would the world have been pissed at us as if the whole country voted McCain? And conversely, should the world be rejoicing as if the entire country supports Obama?

#10 Nov 05 2008 at 7:01 AM Rating: Decent
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You're welcome.Smiley: hk

Edited, Nov 5th 2008 10:02am by TurinAlexander
#11 Nov 05 2008 at 7:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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trickybeck wrote:

True, but I'm just saying, had Obama lost 50%-49%, would the world have been pissed at us as if the whole country voted McCain? And conversely, should the world be rejoicing as if the entire country supports Obama?



Well, welcome to America and the two party system...Obama won the popular vote (with 96% of precincts reporting so far) 52% to 46%, which is, for the US, a relatively huge margin...especially for a first term president.

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#12 Nov 05 2008 at 7:04 AM Rating: Excellent
trickybeck wrote:
True, but I'm just saying, had Obama lost 50%-49%, would the world have been pissed at us as if the whole country voted McCain? And conversely, should the world be rejoicing as if the entire country supports Obama?


Well, people are just happy because the next President of the US will be Obama. The margin of victory doesn't matter that much. In the same way that the world was pissed when Bush won, even if the margin was tiny. It's the impact that matters, not the margin.

And most people (myself included) sometimes fail to make it clear that when we say "the US" we mean "the US government", not "the American people".

Having said that, you do have a point. People around the world aren't specially clever and they do tend to associate "America and its people" with the President they vote for. So yes, if McCain had won, lots of people would've been sad and pissed, regardless of the margin. Just like lots of Americans distrust Arabs because of AQ, people can be simplistic the world over.

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#13 Nov 05 2008 at 7:12 AM Rating: Decent
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And conversely, should the world be rejoicing as if the entire country supports Obama


The rest of the world wold have voted Obama by about 65 - 35, that's why we're rejoicing. :)

Of course he'll have a short honeymoon and then surround himself with Clinton's foreign policy advisors and continue the mission of self-interest and unilateralism that has defined America the past few decades whether the guy in charge was red or blue. That's nothing less than anyone should expect from the one superpower left in the world; any other country in that position would behave exactly the same.

I think he'll do some good stuff at the same time though: more diplomacy and concrete action on climate change, and hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually sends a competent person to represent you at the UN and listens to what it decides.

Americans need the messianic can-do inspirational candidate to really get them going far more than us boring Europeans, who kind of hate our leaders and vote more for parties and policies. I think America will benefit, life will improve, and the rest of us will feel the knock on effect and buy into the dream.

So, good times, congrats :)
#14 Nov 05 2008 at 7:24 AM Rating: Good
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Great poem, Red. Thanks!
#15 Nov 05 2008 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's amazing how many people are smiling today, given that i'm 1000's of miles away from the USA, you've made Europe very hapy today America, very very Happy.

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#16 Nov 05 2008 at 7:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aww, Red. You're the sweetest, most romantic, absolutely worst poet I know. Smiley: inlove

I've gotten so many emails from friends in Europe and elsewhere, most of them obviously written when drunk. I'm keeping them forever, haha.

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#17 Nov 05 2008 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't realize it was 52-46, that is a much bigger margin. Last night it was being reported as 51-49.

And I was sort of playing devil's advocate anyway.



Edited, Nov 5th 2008 11:03am by trickybeck
#18 Nov 05 2008 at 9:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Baudelaire's spinning in his grave.

I grinning like an Cheshire Cat.

Great work Red Smiley: cool
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#19 Nov 05 2008 at 10:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks Red. it was very cool to see you in IRC last night. I'm so happy and relieved not just the US, but the world is rejoicing with us.
#20 Nov 05 2008 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks Red, the poem may not be good, but your heart was in it and brought tears to my eyes.

I knew just how important yesterday was when I saw so many folks folks on irc last night there to watch, with us political junkies, the Election returns. Having you show up was icing on the cake.

I'm been giggly like a school girl all day, yet part of me wanted to pinch myself to see if it was all real. For a girl who grew up in the 60's and watch the protests and riots on the Nightly news along with the War in Vietnam, it's seems we did the impossible, electing the first African-American President yesterday.
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