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#1 Nov 03 2008 at 6:30 PM Rating: Default
First off I am a lazy minority.

And so if you are a lazy minority like me and take offense to what I say, don't. Take pride in it. I love my cardboard box and enjoy spending my cup of pennies from David Blaine to buy time at the internet cafe and surf more ****. If you're not lazy, then this isn't about or for you. I have 'taken back' the name of "lazy minority" that the white man giveth me and am using it as an emotional crutch shield light to describe my own people.

That out of the way, let me explain why all wait-till-the-last-day-of-voting minorities should vote for McCain:


You know when Obama becomes president...most people will think of it as a 'win' for African-Americans in general. Of course, right? But you DO realize that if you think about it, underprivileged black people will have something taken away from them that they've had since the days of slavery:

the right to complain.

...poor black people can't complain anymore. No more 'the white man has kept me down', 'I'm underprivileged', or 'man, you don't know how rough I've had it'. Though a black person actually MAY live in a difficult economic situation, all an ******* politican now has to say is "Obama is president so you have nothing to complain about now."

...So if you are black and were used as Operation Human Shield in Iraq...
...if you are forced into low paying jobs though you have a college degree...
...or if you drowned in New Orleans....Congratulations, you still beat the white man. And have no more right to complain about a single damn thing :)


So I bring to you the perfect End-Of-Campaign 2008 McCain-Palin bumper sticker:

"Want to complain? Vote for McCain"
#2 Nov 03 2008 at 6:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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#3 Nov 03 2008 at 7:24 PM Rating: Good
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#4 Nov 03 2008 at 7:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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#5REDACTED, Posted: Nov 03 2008 at 7:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yep sure are smarter black people.
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First off I am a lazy minority.


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#7 Nov 03 2008 at 7:50 PM Rating: Excellent
American ideology and hegemony won't change overnight no matter who is elected president.

Personally, I'd rather be complaining about President Obama than McCain.

Or God help us all, Palin.
#8 Nov 03 2008 at 7:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, some cynics came to this decision months ago, when Jesse Jackson insulted Obama for his views on (I believe) the role of African-American fathers on Fathers' Day. The basic gist of it was that Jackson built his career and popularity on showing the systemic problems of racism in America. Obama, on the other hand, showed the shift away from blaming the system and onto taking personal responsibility (a la Bill Cosby).

The important thing to keep in mind is that there is still social racism that occurs, but yes, everyone needs to take personal responsibility as well. I mean, duh.
#9 Nov 03 2008 at 8:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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There are two different types of racism:

1. Those who believe someone must be X because they are Y race.
"Barack Obama must be bad because he's black."
Pretty much KKK members and other relics exhibit this.


2. Those who believe a person of Y race is probably X.
"That black person is on welfare because he's lazy."
"That mexican is probably an illegal immigrant."
This is the much, much more common type. Pretty much everyone exhibits this to a certain degree.


If Obama is elected, it means he has only overcome Type 1. There are still pleny of Type 2 racist people who don't necessarily hate every black person. You know, the people who have "black friends" but still hold prejudices against other blacks. This will still continue to exist.

#10 Nov 03 2008 at 8:24 PM Rating: Excellent
There's a third type, actually. Averse racism is where you consciously accept equality and reject racism, but unconsciously treat people of different races differently. We judge based on appearance even if we claim not to be racist.

If there's a black guy in gold chains stopped on the side of the road, a white person will react differently than if it was a little old Chinese lady.

Averse racism is the most prevalent in American society, unfortunately, and even electing a black president won't change that.
#11 Nov 03 2008 at 8:27 PM Rating: Default
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There are two different types of racism:

1. Those who believe someone must be X because they are Y race.
"Barack Obama must be bad because he's black."
Pretty much KKK members and other relics exhibit this.


2. Those who believe a person of Y race is probably X.
"That black person is on welfare because he's lazy."
"That mexican is probably an illegal immigrant."
This is the much, much more common type. Pretty much everyone exhibits this to a certain degree.


If Obama is elected, it means he has only overcome Type 1. There are still pleny of Type 2 racist people who don't necessarily hate every black person. You know, the people who have "black friends" but still hold prejudices against other blacks. This will still continue to exist.


Forget that blacks are racist too. Racism is more prevalent in black society than any other. You can never be against anything they say or your racist. No one plays race cards anymore, except blacks. Everything we do is racism. The only people who can't move forward are blacks. Remember, your only a black if your a democrat.

PS Are you telling me it isn't racism for black people to vote purely for Barry because he is also black? And not on the issues?

Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 11:27pm by AmorTonight

Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 11:29pm by AmorTonight
#12 Nov 03 2008 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
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PS Are you telling me it isn't racism for black people to vote purely for Barry because he is also black? And not on the issues?


No, thats idiocy on the same level of the overwhelming mass of people who will vote for any new face.

Or the kid sitting next to me in class who seriously decided to vote for obama cause he found out that he smoked.

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Remember, your only a black if your a democrat.

Huh? The most intelligent black guy I know of is a republican...

Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 11:36pm by SefanaPPO
#13REDACTED, Posted: Nov 03 2008 at 8:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) In the black community you are literally excommunicated if you are republican. They disavowed Colin Powell when he was a republican, but as soon as he endorsed Obama, OH MAN he's the best thing since sliced bread! Not only that I just moved from Maryland when Michael Steele ran for governor. He was crucified, chastised, and HATED in the black community for being a "Black Republican".
#14 Nov 03 2008 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
Smoking was the one big turnoff for me for Obama. I was upset that he lapsed and sneaked a few after saying he'd quit when he started running.

Eh, just a fly in my kool-aid. I dislike smokers the way some people dislike cats -- they make me sneezy and nauseous.
#15 Nov 03 2008 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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catwho, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
There's a third type, actually. Averse racism is where you consciously accept equality and reject racism, but unconsciously treat people of different races differently. We judge based on appearance even if we claim not to be racist.

If there's a black guy in gold chains stopped on the side of the road, a white person will react differently than if it was a little old Chinese lady.

Averse racism is the most prevalent in American society, unfortunately, and even electing a black president won't change that.

Yeah I should have included that in my Type 2. They are basically the same thing, although one is conscious and the other may be subconscious. Both involve negative first reactions based on prejudices, which may be overcome by "getting to know" the person in question.




Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 11:23pm by trickybeck
#16 Nov 03 2008 at 8:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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catwho, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
Smoking was the one big turnoff for me for Obama. I was upset that he lapsed and sneaked a few after saying he'd quit when he started running.

I'd say his opposition to gay marriage is a bigger turnoff for me...


The smoking relapse is kinda endearing. Reminds me of how Peter Jennings, who had been smoke-free for 20 years, relapsed following 9/11.

#17 Nov 03 2008 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Smoking was the one big turnoff for me for Obama. I was upset that he lapsed and sneaked a few after saying he'd quit when he started running.


I know you're not going to not going to vote for McCain because of this, but come on 'turnoff'? I think thats a poor choice of words...You didn't just meet him on match.com.

Besides, many people (if not everyone ) can give into vices, I think cigg smoking is possibly one of the least offensive, it has barely any mind altering effects. The imagery that a president should be vice free is a concept that we could do without in todays world. I just quit, and I don't really fault him, attempting to lead the free world through a rough, expensive battle that spans for 9+ months has to be one of the most stressful endeavors....
#18 Nov 03 2008 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I know you're not going to not going to vote for McCain because of this, but come on 'turnoff'? I think thats a poor choice of words...You didn't just meet him on match.com.

Besides, many people (if not everyone ) can give into vices, I think cigg smoking is possibly one of the least offensive, it has barely any mind altering effects. The imagery that a president should be vice free is a concept that we could do without in todays world. I just quit, and I don't really fault him, attempting to lead the free world through a rough, expensive battle that spans for 9+ months has to be one of the most stressful endeavors....


Nobody was criticizing anyone because of their vices...I had brought it up cause this moron(who somehow got into college) said that he was basing his vote because obama is cool cause he smokes.

Besides I think obama has to have seduced some people out there...I've seen people I thought intelligent fall for his slogans.
#19 Nov 03 2008 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
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I thought catwho was criticizing obama for his vice (smoking), but not in retort to the friend who is voting for him because hes a smoker. Regardless, I think we're all in agreement that that is a silly reason to cast your vote.

Edited, Nov 4th 2008 12:52am by TWA
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I've seen people I thought intelligent fall for his slogans.
Like "POW!", "Drill, baby, drill!" and "[Name] the [Profession]!"?
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#21 Nov 04 2008 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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If there's a black guy in gold chains stopped on the side of the road, a white person will react differently than if it was a little old Chinese lady.


While I definitely do not disagree with the concept of averse racism, I must take issue with this example. As a rule I don't pick up hitchhikers, period, but I have done so in the past and (speaking from personal experience) race has never played an issue. However I would still be biased towards the little old chinese lady in this case, not because she's chinese as opposed to black, but because she's a little old lady, and the other guy is dressed in a considerably more threatening manner.

I don't care if you're black, white, asian or purple, if you're standing on the side of the road in gold chains and thuglife clothes with your thumb out it is highly unlikely that anyone is going to pick you up.

On the other side of that same coin, if you're dressed respectably, whether it be normal leisure clothes or some sort of suit, people are going to be more receptive to you.

Further, people are more likely to pick up an elderly person, particularly a female, than they are to pick up a young person(particularly males). This is, to some extent, a combination of sexism, respect and plain old good sense.

It's sexist because people automatically believe that a woman is less likely to do harm than a man (not necessarily untrue, I wouldn't dispute the veracity of this opinion). Good sense also plays into this for the exact same above reasons.

It's respectful because the elderly person has a much higher probability of collapsing and dieing on the side of the road, their need is greater(I'd feel bad if I drove by an old guy or woman who, oddly enough, was hitch hiking, and found out s/he died later).
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