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#1 Nov 02 2008 at 7:09 PM Rating: Sub-Default
Let's see how these boards are going to spin this. HE SAID THIS HIMSELF MR. MESSIAH.

Oh yea, you mean the media isn't liberal? Where has this been? Damn, go ahead vote for The One Barry Obama.

Astonishing.

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#2 Nov 02 2008 at 7:16 PM Rating: Good
Wasn't the coal industry going bankrupt anyway?
#3REDACTED, Posted: Nov 02 2008 at 7:18 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) No, coal supplies 52%+ of US energy. Coal is the MAJOR ENERGY resource of the United States. You'll be living in the dark if he gets elected soon enough. (Exaggerated, but this is seriously disturbing)
#4 Nov 02 2008 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
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Wasn't the coal industry going bankrupt anyway?


No, coal supplies 52%+ of US energy.
It went up in the last two years?

Also, this is only bad news for the East Coast, which deserves it anyway, because Smash lives there.
#5REDACTED, Posted: Nov 02 2008 at 7:25 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) What did they spike your kool-aid with to make it even more potent? I thought the cornerstone of being a liberal is "open-mindedness" what a laughingstock.
#6 Nov 02 2008 at 7:28 PM Rating: Excellent
AmorTonight wrote:
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It went up in the last two years?

Also, this is only bad news for the East Coast, which deserves it anyway, because Smash lives there.


What did they spike your kool-aid with to make it even more potent? I thought the cornerstone of being a liberal is "open-mindedness" what a laughingstock.
Who the fuck told you I was a liberal?

If it was just a guess on your part, your libe-radar needs a tuneup.

Also, you're an ijit.
#7 Nov 02 2008 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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MDenham wrote:
AmorTonight wrote:
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Wasn't the coal industry going bankrupt anyway?


No, coal supplies 52%+ of US energy.
It went up in the last two years?



I wouldn't doubt if it did, the current administration has been pushing Coal, since it's very abundant. They were looking for clean ways to burn all that coal that was laced with Sulfur.

Haven't you seen all those Coal advertisements on TV over the past few years? (not being sarcastic, there are seriously a lot Pro-Coal ads).
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#8 Nov 02 2008 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
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AmorTonight wrote:
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Wasn't the coal industry going bankrupt anyway?


No, coal supplies 52%+ of US energy.
It went up in the last two years?



I wouldn't doubt if it did, the current administration has been pushing Coal, since it's very abundant. They were looking for clean ways to burn all that coal that was laced with Sulfur.

Haven't you seen all those Coal advertisements on TV over the past few years? (not being sarcastic, there are seriously a lot Pro-Coal ads).
No, I live out in Oregon (the eastern half) where we get most of our power from killing salmon trying to spawn.

And a little bit of wind and maybe some nuclear.
#9 Nov 02 2008 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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MDenham wrote:
No, I live out in Oregon (the eastern half) where we get most of our power from killing salmon trying to spawn.


Here in Michigan we build stairs for the fish to climb up so they don't die.
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#10 Nov 02 2008 at 7:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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No, I live out in Oregon (the eastern half) where we get most of our power from killing salmon trying to spawn.


Here in Michigan we build stairs for the fish to climb up so they don't die.
Apparently our salmon are too stupid for that. I'd blame "No Child Left Behind", but then Amor would confuse me for a liberal again.
#11 Nov 02 2008 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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#12 Nov 02 2008 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
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I'm all for more Nuclear plants though. And they are building this big wind farm up here, and that will bring more work for me since we would make the metals for it.

Less coal = more job security for me!
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#13REDACTED, Posted: Nov 02 2008 at 7:44 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) What the hell is racist about it? It has nothing to do with anything, but energy. These boards are worst than the dailykos.
#14 Nov 02 2008 at 7:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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They could make a zero emmission coal powerplant if they were willing to invest the money and if regulation required it. You would basically have a building aboutt he size of your generaor dedicated to air scrubbing. Think Catylitic converters, but on a massive scale, probably followed by electrostatic seperation for the rest of the particulate matter, and then pump the remaining exhaust gasses through an algae farm, then use the algae for biomass for biofuels.

A nuclear power plant would be far cheaper, and far less polluting. The current generation pebble bed reactors literally cannot go critical even if they lose coolant and are running at full capacity. The waste material is a problem, but it is less of a problem than coal residue, and I would bet money we are less than a generation away from a working Fusion reactor, in which case, problem solved, you feed the fission waste into the fusion reactor and let it take care of the waste for us.

The coal companies really have it coming though. They treat their workers like ****, they don't make a good faith effort to restore the land in most cases, and have been tring to ***** us all over for years is finally starting to catch up to them.
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#15 Nov 02 2008 at 7:47 PM Rating: Good
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Do you know what "living in the dark" means. If you bankrupt an industry that supplies 52% of the energy in the US what do you think is going to happen?
The West Coast will secede when the eastern half of the US tries to steal our power?
#16 Nov 02 2008 at 7:49 PM Rating: Good
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MDenham wrote:
AmorTonight wrote:
Do you know what "living in the dark" means. If you bankrupt an industry that supplies 52% of the energy in the US what do you think is going to happen?
The West Coast will secede when the eastern half of the US tries to steal our power?


Wait, why would the East try to steal power from California? They are the ones with the big energy issues. If anything they'd come after us!

Stay away you dirty californians.
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#17 Nov 02 2008 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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MDenham wrote:
AmorTonight wrote:
Do you know what "living in the dark" means. If you bankrupt an industry that supplies 52% of the energy in the US what do you think is going to happen?
The West Coast will secede when the eastern half of the US tries to steal our power?


Wait, why would the East try to steal power from California? They are the ones with the big energy issues. If anything they'd come after us!

Stay away you dirty californians.
Rack that.
#18 Nov 02 2008 at 8:11 PM Rating: Default
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Do you know what "living in the dark" means. If you bankrupt an industry that supplies 52% of the energy in the US what do you think is going to happen? Besides Barry saying "Energy prices will necessarily skyrocket" "If someone wants to build a coal plant they can, but it will bankrupt them" It's HIS OWN WORDS.


To my teenage mind, it sounds like he is trying to encourage a cleaner way of providing power. Is that a bad thing?

52% is a rather dirty and environmentally hostile way to produce energy for the U.S. Greenhouse gases anyone?

I support the green credit idea. We may help stop global warming.

As for those coal miners out of a job, I hear there are openings flipping burgers at McDonald's or as a greater at Walmart. Should be as easy as mining coal.
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Washington state has one of the largest hydroelectric and nucelar power footprints in the country. Yet my bill goes up because California buys huge blocks of power then refuses to pay for them.
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#20 Nov 02 2008 at 8:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Obama didn't say he was bankrupting the coal industry, you dolt. He said that energy companies building new coal-fired power plants without using new technology to scrub the emissions would bankrupt the plant due to the cost of emission credits.

It's hilarious how every time Obama talks about clean coal or liquified coal or whatever it's "OMG Obama is in the pocket of the coal industry!" and when he talks about things like this it's "OMG Obama is going to bankrupt coal!!". It's neither, really.
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#21 Nov 02 2008 at 8:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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You'll be living in the dark if he gets elected soon enough.


You really think that that was an exemplary piece of sentence construction?

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If you bankrupt an industry that supplies 52% of the energy in the US what do you think is going to happen?


I would imagine that someone somewhere would see it as a business opportunity.

Why do you hate new technology?
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#22 Nov 02 2008 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I would imagine that someone somewhere would see it as a business opportunity.

Why do you hate new technology?


He hates new technology because hardcore right-wingers hate anything new that might change any aspect of their lives or the country they live in.
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#23REDACTED, Posted: Nov 02 2008 at 8:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You really think one is mutually exclusive of the other? It's called a transition period. Have fun patting each other on the shoulder.
#24 Nov 02 2008 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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#25 Nov 02 2008 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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Nuclear power is not clean. If you like it so much Amor, can we store the waste in your basement?
#26 Nov 02 2008 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Nuclear power is not clean.
Fusion is!

And hydroelectric and wind powerplants never need replacing!
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