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#55 Nov 01 2008 at 7:38 PM Rating: Decent

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Commander Annabella wrote:

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I'm voting Democrat because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not
sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or
social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to
America illegally. We can't blame them for that, can we?

Someone hasn't studied social policy. I think we need immigrants to bring up our school test scores. Clearly, Allison isn't contributing.

Immigrants from Japan or India, at least. Our math and sciences are teh lose.

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#56 Nov 01 2008 at 9:53 PM Rating: Good

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That said, if FDR a president from the 30's can bankrupt us

Damn that FDR for causing the Great Depression!

And then going on TV to reassure us.

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#57 Nov 01 2008 at 10:41 PM Rating: Good

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I'm voting Democrat because English has no place being the official
language in America .

And what exactly is wrong with there being multiple official language? Hell, it's not even YOUR country's language to begin with.

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I'm voting Democrat because I'd rather pay $4 for a gallon of gas than
allow drilling for oil off the coasts of America , and in Alaska .

Drilling would raise gas prices as, accessing any possible oil in those places would require more engery than what would be produced.

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I'm voting Democrat because I think the government will do a better job of
spending my money than I could.

Ah, the old "taxs r b4d" thing. Listen: Taxes are neccessary. Stop whining and pay the extra few cents or dollars. And as I've asked before, what the **** do your taxes go to down there if you're all so scared of a small raise in tax rates?

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I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq , I
know the Islamic terrorists will stop trying to kill us because they'll
think we're a good and decent country.

No they won't, you're right, BUT, less of them will as you won't be blowing up the homes of civilians or arresting people with no evidence of any terrorist activity anymore.

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I'm voting Democrat because I believe people who can't tell us if it
will rain in two or three days can now tell us the polar ice caps will disappear
in ten years if I don't start riding a bicycle, build a windmill or inflate
my tires to proper levels

The polar ice caps melting will happen. That's something we can predict as we CAN see the temperature of the oceans. Also, the inflating your tires thing was aimed at saving money at the pumps, not saving the ice caps dumbass.

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I'm voting Democrat because it's alright to kill millions of babies as
long as we keep violent, convicted murderers on death row alive or loose on the
street.

I know that you right-wing people like to tell people how to live their life, but why the hell do you care so much about what other people do when they get pregnant. Freedom to choose is important. If someone chooses to have an abortion, who cares? Doesn't affect me. Stop sticking your nose into other peoples' business.

Also, the death penalty is too easy on murderers. Wouldn't Life in prison be a worse torture? Insteado f getting off easy with a relatively painless death, they suffer for the rest of their lives for what they did.

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I'm voting Democrat because I believe businesses in America should not be
allowed to make profits. Businesses should just break even and give the rest to
the government so politicians and bureaucrats can redistribute the money the way
they think it should be redistributed.

Where do you get this ****? A raise in taxes will not break any businesses. Yeah, they won't make as much of a profit, but if the business goes under because of a minimal raise in taxes, the business wasn't doing that well ot begin with.

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I'm voting Democrat because I believe guns, and not the people misusing
them, are the cause of crimes and killings.

People behind the guns are the cause for the killings...unfortunatly you righties are also against making it more difficult for these people to get the guns. I think you can see the problem with this.

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I'm voting Democrat because when someone with a weapon threatens my family
or me, I know the government can respond faster through a call to 911 than I can
with a gun in my hand

This is a very terrible way to describe this, Are you saying that if a guy threatens your family with a baseball bat or a small knife justifies shooting them in the head? Also, if this happened in your home, the time you wasted trying to get your gun out of the locked cabinet would have been more than enough for the police to show up.

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I'm voting Democrat because oil companies' 5% profit on a gallon of gas
are obscene, but government taxes of 18% on the same gallon of gas are just
fine. In fact, they should impose a 'Windfall Profits' tax on the Oil
Companies to prevent this 'gouging'. After all, the Taxpayers can afford
it !!

This makes no sense to me, can someone provide me with some sources so that I can read up on it?

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I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four elitist liberals should
rewrite the Constitution every few months to suit some fringe element that could
never get their agenda past voters

Give me one good example, and then tell me that the Pubbies don't do the same thing. I dare you.

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I'm voting Democrat because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not
sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or
social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to
America illegally. We can't blame them for that, can we?

If this wasn't sarcastic, I'd agree completely. Maybe your country should make legal immigration a little more accessable so that these people can enter legally, get a job, an apartment and live the normal American lifestyle. If you say immigration is bad as a whole, let me remind you that you're descended, probably in the not too distant past, from immigrants.

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I'm voting Democrat because now I can now marry whatever I want, so
I've decided to marry my horse.

THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS SAME-SEX MARRIAGE! The democrats are not going to make it possible to marry who or whatever you want. They're going ot make it so that gays and lesbians can marry each other the same as anyone else in the world. Also, again, how the hell does two dudes marrying each other affect you personally? No one has EVER been able to answer this question for me without talking about how it insults them as Christians or about how as Christians, it's their job to save the rest of us poor unbelievers.

[quote]Im voting Democrat because I am too stupid to run my own 'Life'. I need
the government's guidance to make it all worthwhile, and re-distribute my
excesses to the 'non-working' sponges.
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Now see, this is just dumb. Seriously, whoever wrote these is an idiot.

[quote]It makes you wonder why anyone would ever vote Republican, doesn't it?[/quote]

No, I knwo why people vote republican. I just don't understand their way of thinking and their closed-mindedness.

Now, about that video...

Smiley: lol

K, that was funny.

[quote]McCain may not be the best choice for president but do we really need someone in the white house that is getting his speech material from Denzel Washington in Malcolm X?[/quote]

OH SHI- You took the video seriously. I feel sorry for you.

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#58 Nov 02 2008 at 12:31 AM Rating: Decent

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Ah, the old "taxs r b4d" thing. Listen: Taxes are neccessary. Stop whining and pay the extra few cents or dollars. And as I've asked before, what the @#%^ do your taxes go to down there if you're all so scared of a small raise in tax rates?

A gross oversimplification, taxes can be used for the needs a civilization,roads schools all that good stuff, and it can get into to socialist programs. You can't call it black and white.

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I know that you right-wing people like to tell people how to live their life, but why the hell do you care so much about what other people do when they get pregnant. Freedom to choose is important. If someone chooses to have an abortion, who cares? Doesn't affect me. Stop sticking your nose into other peoples' business.

Also, the death penalty is too easy on murderers. Wouldn't Life in prison be a worse torture? Insteado f getting off easy with a relatively painless death, they suffer for the rest of their lives for what they did.

1) People against abortions aren't against the womens right to make that choice, they are against the loss of a life that occurs. Some people will disclaim the life of the child in the name of civil rights, I really don't get it...

2)Now I don't know the statistics behind costs of keeping prisoners alive vrs. executing them but if it would be cheaper without the appeals and **** that happens in death sentences, as well as the space question, I couldn't agree more with a life sentence.

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This is a very terrible way to describe this, Are you saying that if a guy threatens your family with a baseball bat or a small knife justifies shooting them in the head? Also, if this happened in your home, the time you wasted trying to get your gun out of the locked cabinet would have been more than enough for the police to show up.

That's one elaborate cabinet you're describing. Unless the cops are parked out front of the house I'm fairly certain most people are competent enough to unlock it long before the police arrived. Who says people keep guns only in a locked cabinet anyways, nightstand drawers are a popular spot.

What you get for voting democrat this year? A inexperienced man who wishes to fix everything but who's shortcomings will quickly lead to him becoming a puppet for the various influences. And with the congress likely to come under complete democrat control we will likely see for the first time in awhile a united government, being heavily manipulated by the liberal extremed in the democratic party.

#59 Nov 02 2008 at 12:54 AM Rating: Good

Allegory

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SefanaPPO wrote:

A gross oversimplification, taxes can be used for the needs a civilization,roads schools all that good stuff, and it can get into to socialist programs. You can't call it black and white.

You disagree with him by restating his point?

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1) People against abortions aren't against the womens right to make that choice, they are against the loss of a life that occurs. Some people will disclaim the life of the child in the name of civil rights, I really don't get it...

It is not a child, it is a zygote or a fetus at the most extreme end. We consume, run over, and step on more complex and sentient life forms daily.

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2)Now I don't know the statistics behind costs of keeping prisoners alive vrs. executing them but if it would be cheaper without the appeals and sh*t that happens in death sentences, as well as the space question, I couldn't agree more with a life sentence.

It is, by a significant margin. The appeals process matters greatly, and the suggestion of removing it is ludicrous, heck why even have trials? Life sentences are cheaper and far less severe on the wrongly accused. Capital punishment is merely blind anger in defiance of rational sense.

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That's one elaborate cabinet you're describing. Unless the cops are parked out front of the house I'm fairly certain most people are competent enough to unlock it long before the police arrived. Who says people keep guns only in a locked cabinet anyways, nightstand drawers are a popular spot.

You or a family member are statistically more like to be killed or injured by a gun bought for self defense than saved by it. There are legitimate reasons for owning a gun, self defense just isn't one of them.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 4:00am by Allegory

#60 Nov 02 2008 at 12:58 AM Rating: Default

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2)Now I don't know the statistics behind costs of keeping prisoners alive vrs. executing them but if it would be cheaper without the appeals and sh*t that happens in death sentences

Cool. Just let me take a second to track down your real identity, kill one of your loved ones, and pin the blame on you. Then we'll see if you like a very, very short appeals process.

#61 Nov 02 2008 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent

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Just shut the @#%^ up and give me Haste, RDM.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 10:59am by DaimenKain

#62 Nov 02 2008 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent

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A inexperienced man who wishes to fix everything but who's shortcomings will quickly lead to him becoming a puppet for the various influences.

Always with the "inexperienced" crap. There have been a fair amount of presidents with little experience. Hell, Abraham Lincoln had the least experience of any president. Are you going to tell me that his inexperience made him a bad president? Because from what I've read, he was a pretty damn good president.

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#63 Nov 02 2008 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent

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A gross oversimplification, taxes can be used for the needs a civilization,roads schools all that good stuff, and it can get into to socialist programs. You can't call it black and white.

You just confirmed my point. Thank you.

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1) People against abortions aren't against the womens right to make that choice, they are against the loss of a life that occurs. Some people will disclaim the life of the child in the name of civil rights, I really don't get it...

I support abortion up to the end of the first trimester. If you couldn't make a decision by that point, you're screwed and will have to either deal with your mistake, or give the kid up for adoption. Up until about the third month of pregnancy, you can barely call the embryo/fetus a living thing. I'm not going to use science to back this up, this is an opinion issue.

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That's one elaborate cabinet you're describing.

Cabinet with say doors, 1 key lock or combination lock. That's all. And by the time you get it open, the fast moving ****** with the baseball bat would have already stopped you and taken you hostage(don't assume that someone wanting to steal your things also wants to kill you, rarely happens).

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Who says people keep guns only in a locked cabinet anyways, nightstand drawers are a popular spot.

Popular does not mean intelligent. If anyone with kids kept a gun there, what would keep the kids from getting to it?

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What you get for voting democrat this year?

Technically I wouldn't get anything as I cannot vote democrat this year. I'm not an American.

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#64 Nov 02 2008 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good

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Paskil wrote:

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2)Now I don't know the statistics behind costs of keeping prisoners alive vrs. executing them but if it would be cheaper without the appeals and sh*t that happens in death sentences

Cool. Just let me take a second to track down your real identity, kill one of your loved ones, and pin the blame on you. Then we'll see if you like a very, very short appeals process.

See, the problem with our justice system is that it is constitutional. If we just killed people at the beginning, we'd be better off.

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Seriously, what the f*ck nature?

#65 Nov 02 2008 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent

Paskil

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Anna wrote:

See, the problem with our justice system is that it is constitutional. If we just killed people at the beginning, we'd be better off.

I am definitely in favor of a long appeals process. Especially since the Innocence Project and other organizations/individuals have exonerated people serving life sentences, and also people on death row. I don't think the cost/value ratio can ever be justified in favor of capital punishment.

#66 Nov 02 2008 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good

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People still use AOL? Smiley: laugh

The kind of person who posts chain letters on forums and acts like he's brilliant does, yes.

To be fair, most of the people on AOL don't know how to find their email or how copy/paste works, so to their frame of reference, he could be considered a shining man-god.

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#67 Nov 02 2008 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent

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Paskil wrote:

Anna wrote:

See, the problem with our justice system is that it is constitutional. If we just killed people at the beginning, we'd be better off.

I am definitely in favor of a long appeals process. Especially since the Innocence Project and other organizations/individuals have exonerated people serving life sentences, and also people on death row. I don't think the cost/value ratio can ever be justified in favor of capital punishment.

Maybe people who believe in an afterlife believe that if a person is killed right now before they can repent they are guaranteed to go to hell. If you give them a lifetime to accept Jesus and repent then they may go to heaven!

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#68 Nov 02 2008 at 2:06 PM Rating: Default

Paskil

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TirithRR wrote:

Maybe people who believe in an afterlife believe that if a person is killed right now before they can repent they are guaranteed to go to hell. If you give them a lifetime to accept Jesus and repent then they may go to heaven!

The sad part is that there are probably people out there that believe this. An eye for an eye and all that jazz. Seriously makes you lose faith in humanity sometimes.

Edit: After all, the person murdered probably didn't have a chance to repent and ended up in Hell right?

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 5:07pm by Paskil

#69 Nov 02 2008 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good

Annabella

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Paskil wrote:

Anna wrote:

See, the problem with our justice system is that it is constitutional. If we just killed people at the beginning, we'd be better off.

I am definitely in favor of a long appeals process. Especially since the Innocence Project and other organizations/individuals have exonerated people serving life sentences, and also people on death row. I don't think the cost/value ratio can ever be justified in favor of capital punishment.

I'm being sarcastic, Paskil. We have to have this appeals process. This isn't some liberal invention. It's the basis for the systems of justice and totally about abiding by the constitution. Some people just can't handle it.

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Seriously, what the f*ck nature?

#70 Nov 02 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent

Paskil

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I actually did have something about you being sarcastic in my post but ended up deleting it.

#71 Nov 02 2008 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent

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Dude, dont you have anti magic missile barriers to deflect them? or do you lose that when you are no longer an admin?

Shield, level 1 spell
Range: Personal/ Familiar
Duration: 1 minute/caster level
Effect: AC+4 Shield Bonus, Blocks Magic Missiles

Oh yeah, there is some magic item that can block magic missiles also but it melts after blocking ten of em.

Those are really the only two choices.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 6:41pm by Pensive

#72 Nov 02 2008 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent

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Pensive wrote:

Those are really the only two choices.

There are the Globe of Invulnerability spells. They make the caster immune to all spells under a certian level.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 6:54pm by TirithRR

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#73 Nov 02 2008 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent

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That's true, I suppose and otiluke's resilient sphere or wall of force would also do the trick.