Gun controlFollow

Don't go all stupid on me, now, Belkira. I merely pointed out that your inability to understand why someone would want to shoot guns at a gun club wasn't the most sensible statement.

Children in 3rd world countries have no problem using automatics.

Joking aside, wow, just wow. Negligence much?

I'll admit, I enjoy using high caliber/rapid firing guns, but only in a very controlled secure situation without distractions. I would not condone letting small children use the more dangerous armaments (for obvious reasons). And yes, they are absolutely worthless for home defense situations. They are to be used as toys or weapons, nothing else.



Yeah, I'd say go with a smaller weapon for home invasion, and even then I'd go with no weapon. An AR-15 is not the correct or even most effective tool for this job. It's worse than a equivalent quality pistol in defense, you'd end up causing an awful lot of collateral damage and endanger your family.

For the same reason people like sports or any other hobby. I personally don't watch sports, but the reasoning for all these are the same; it is fun.

Ok first of all,



This happened in America. Westfield, Massachusetts to be exact. Full auto weapons AREN'T legal you go to jail for them I sure you knew this just failed to see the location.

Secondly, an 8 year old can easily handle the kick of ONE shot from a Uzi it really isn't that powerful a 9mm bullet has little to no kick (9mm bullets are what are shot from an Uzi, mostly).

Thirdly, the most likely way this child died was by a technique that makes a semi-auto weapon fire at full auto speed. Very dangerous very stupid to let an 8 yr-old do it much less a 35yr-old adult.

If you don't know what bump fire is let me give you a brief tutorial. Basically you put your thumb through your belt loop and through the trigger guard so that it is straight and locked on the loop. Next you use your most powerful arm to push the front of the gun forward you need to be able to grip it and be very strong. The recoil of the gun and your arm pushing forward cause your thumb to hit the trigger at almost instantaneous speeds causing the effect of full auto.

Still don't understand? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Va1TXGSCXk
Thank you and goodnight.

Not really. As it stands, my rights remain unaffected by people like you. In fact, entire associations are dedicated to the cause of keeping it that way.

Maybe I want one, and maybe I want it because I find shooting it fun. I should note at this point that I do not object to laws that make fully automatic weapons illegal. I agree that civilian use of full auto is too dangerous, even for recreational purposes, and should be banned.



It only ticks me off to the point that I think less of your opinion on the matter. That's really the extent of it. I'm not a card carrying member of the NRA nor do I vehemently deny the benefit of every single gun control law.

Edited, Oct 27th 2008 4:37pm by BrownDuck

Yet more proof that humans are too stupid to be allowed to have guns.

(as if any more proof were needed)

If it is about intent upon creation, should swords be illegal?

If it is about volume of potential kills, should fertilizer or gasoline be illegal?

If it is about amount of people they have killed in the past, should cars be illegal?

While I get where your arguement is going, and agree with you on having laws that enforce the safe use of all of the above (including semi-automatic guns), I believe that an outright ban is not what is needed.

But what if someone wanted to own a full auto weapon? Maybe they find shooting it fun.

Ok, that was just me being a *****.

I'll admit I don't understand a whole lot about guns, so maybe an uzi isn't what I think it is. When I hear of the gun going off and killing the person shooting it at a moderated gun show, I assume that it's an automatic. Or whatever. My mistake if uzi's are no more harmful than a rifle.

I also find it amusing that RedPhoenixxx says pretty much the same thing I do and you don't want to, what was it? Disrespect him or his opinoin? And I get a snarky lecture on what people do at gunshows. That couldn't be because you simply don't like me, could it?

A weapon's purpose is, but the purpose of a gun is not just to kill other human beings, or even to kill. It's purpose is to fire a projectile at high speeds towards a target. That target need not be a human nor living. Then can be used for a target sport, like a bow, a javelin or discus. Saying that their only purpose is as a weapon is just false.

Would you say explosive are only useful as a weapon as well?

I responded differently to Red because he simply left it at the fact that he didn't get it. He didn't suggest that because of him not "getting it", that guns should be banned. Maybe he would have that opinion if they weren't already where he lives. At any rate, my explanation serves equally well to both of you. Sorry if it seemed like I favored his response over yours. I'm just trying not to be an *** and still get my point out.

Edited, Oct 27th 2008 4:56pm by BrownDuck

His post makes sense. Perhaps you'd like to do some digging of your own while you hold the shovel?