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#77 Oct 21 2008 at 1:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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And, thats why Fox is nearly 10:1 all other News networks.


By what measure?

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#78REDACTED, Posted: Oct 21 2008 at 1:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) By ratings. That is a viewership medium. 10:1 is a bit exaggerated, but at it's smallest margin is at least 3:1. And it's highest is near that 10:1 mark.
#79 Oct 21 2008 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I still don't understand why people bash fox, I guess it's just the left in this country, but anyone with a subjective eye can tell Fox is by far the most balanced.


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#80REDACTED, Posted: Oct 21 2008 at 1:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thanks Pensive for answering the question. Thumbs up.
#81 Oct 21 2008 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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I still don't understand why people bash fox, I guess it's just the left in this country, but anyone with a subjective eye can tell Fox is by far the most balanced.


Smiley: laugh

At first, I thought you were an ignorant right wingnut. Now I see the subtle humor in your sarcasm.

Well played.
#82 Oct 21 2008 at 1:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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I guess it's just the left in this country, but anyone with a subjective eye can tell Fox is by far the most balanced.


No. I assure you that its not just the left in your country that find Fox to be a disgusting parody of what journalistic integrity should be.

I know some of you will find it hard impossible to believe, but if you want to witness an example of what 'proper' reporting is all about, you really ought to have a look at Al Jazeera of late.

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#84 Oct 21 2008 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Okay, let's meet back here in two years and see how the economy is doing.

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#85 Oct 21 2008 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I still don't understand why people bash fox, I guess it's just the left in this country, but anyone with a subjective eye can tell Fox is by far the most balanced.


Yeah, I wasn't going to say this before, but I guess it's pretty much safe to say that I'd appreciate it if you killed yourself. I don't expect you to capitulate, but if you did I'd be pleasantly surprised.
#86 Oct 21 2008 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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At first, I thought you were an ignorant right wingnut. Now I see the subtle humor in your sarcasm.


Are you joking or did I get trolled?
#88 Oct 21 2008 at 1:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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October 2010. See you there.

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#89 Oct 21 2008 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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October 2010. See you there.


Odds on McCain not being able to attend due to advanced state of decompostion?
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#90 Oct 21 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Obama is about as far left as they come.


Haha. You have no idea what the far left is like.

Look, if Obama was in Europe, he'd be a centre-right politician. In fact, the Democratic party as a whole would be a centre-right political party. The Republicans would split between the hard-right, and the far-right. Compared to Europe, the whole spectrum of US politics is slightly skewed to the right.

I'm not saying this is good or bad, just that there is an ocean as vast as the Atlantic between Obama and anything remotely connected to the "far-left".

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#91 Oct 21 2008 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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At first, I thought you were an ignorant right wingnut. Now I see the subtle humor in your sarcasm.


Are you joking or did I get trolled?


I can only assume that someone who thinks that Fox is the most balanced news source is a troll.

Then again, we still have Knox.
#92 Oct 21 2008 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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Also sweet, cos from what I hear, most of Europe is a pretty swell place to live.


This.

Remember, most of the immigrants left Europe because of religious bigotry, the inability to find work, poverty and wage stagnation when they weren't serfs, ethnic persecution, the works. Europe west of the Caucusus has mostly outgrown all that since WWII, but America these days has reverted back to all the reasons we originally left the damn place.

No, I'm sorry, the pilgrims and my ancestors and your ancestors (probably) did not come over here because all the countries in Europe were socialist states and they wanted a free market economy. (Unless you left certain bits after 1917ish.) That was just a bonus people figured out later during the Industrial Revolution.

#93REDACTED, Posted: Oct 21 2008 at 3:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) When did I say its the most balanced "news source". Fox IS the most balanced NEWS CHANNEL. Stop making **** up please.
#94 Oct 21 2008 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Fox IS the most balanced NEWS CHANNEL.


What the hell are you talking about?

Its not even close to being balanced! Let alone informative and intelligent, or even bloody coherent a lot of the time.

Then again, I can see why you would like it.

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#95REDACTED, Posted: Oct 21 2008 at 3:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, then you tell me what you think is the most balanced news channel. And by the way no one has still answered my question from earlier, intriguing.
#96 Oct 21 2008 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
Do you know what subjectively and objectively mean? I'm not really sure you do.
#97 Oct 21 2008 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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Do you know what subjectively and objectively mean? I'm not really sure you do.


Damn! You beat me to it.
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#98 Oct 21 2008 at 4:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Let me ask you this, what other news channel can you subjectively look at and say yes, they have a near 50/50 of Liberal/Conserv, Repub/Democrat


The thing is, you shouldn't HAVE too. News is supposed to be just that, news. A reporter reads a story, you watch and listen to reporter read you the story, you then form your own opinions about said story.

This really only happens on your "nightly" newscasts nowadays. Cable news has become this weird bastardization of news and punditry. Sure, MSNBC & CNN aren't perfect, but their "newscasters" try to appear unbiased. The problem with FOX is that they don't even try. You have "news" written by Repubs, read to you by Repubs, for an entirerly Republican audiance: yet because it says "Fair and Balanced" in the byline the dumb twits who watch it think it's "real".

Newspapers have been doing this for years. The AP prints out "just the facts" and the competing papers "spin" the story a different way (Compare the same stories in the Boston Globe to the Herald and/or The NY Times to the Post).

Now, to answer your question: Yes, all the other stations have 50/50 Dem/Repub ratio as the people who identify themselves as such are NOT reporters (not even on FOX): they're pundits. They're paid to argue an opinion with someone who's paid to argue the opposite point.
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#99gbaji, Posted: Oct 21 2008 at 4:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Care to find a cite for that statistic? Cause I think I need to get my hip waders out...
#100 Oct 21 2008 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
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There nothing 'hip' about waders dude.
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#101 Oct 21 2008 at 5:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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You've never actually watched Fox have you? Alan Colms is a Republican? Juan Williams? Bob Beckle? Geraldine Ferraro? Are you serious?


Yes. I enjoy their characachers of wimpy lefties about as much as I enjoy Colbert's as a FOX "news" host.

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2. FOX tries to "appear unbiased". But that's the problem. They're presenting editorial views but trying to pretend that they don't have a bias themselves. This leads to a false perception that one is presenting "truth" or "fact", when what's usually happening is that you're just labeling your own bias as such.


Fixed that for ya.

My problem with FOX is they present Conservative dogma as FACT: not the opinion that it is.

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Care to find a cite for that statistic?


You find a cite where a single reporter (NOT a Pundit) identifies him or herself as either a Republican or a Democrat.
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