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At least as much as McCain is of his campaign. Probably considerably more so.We had a far, far better economy in the 90's and then Bush came into power and enacted the economic policies of today. We see how well that went.

Edited, Oct 20th 2008 6:56pm by Jophiel

Lol. Or the Obama camp went looking through transcripts of speeches and statements made over a decade to create an apparent contrast and/or change...




False. Just plain false.



He didn't say that. He said that he wanted more cuts for the middle class as well as those in the Bush tax cuts. The implication in your statement is that he believed that by lowering taxes on the "rich" it would hurt the middle class (which is today an Obama claim), but that's simply not what he said back then. He didn't like the Bush tax cuts because he wanted them to include more cuts for the middle class as well, not because he didn't think that the existing ones were good.

You're inventing a contrast that doesn't exist. Ok. Actually, you're just mindlessly parroting one that was created for you...



Both sides are Joph. Surely your not suggesting that McCain must comply with a set of rules that Obama does not comply with simply because in a perfect world everyone would? Um... Your guy already went back on his promise regarding funding when he realized he could get more doing it differently so he's hardly got the high moral ground here.



So all positions must be absolute? Never drill no matter what? You're holding McCain to an impossible standard. A sane person would assume that McCain's reason for changing his position on drilling had to do with oil prices reaching record highs last summer. Cause that would be a sensible reason for one to do so...



Huh?



No. He said it to show that he's a conservative.

The 10% of the things that McCain didn't vote with Bush on are pretty much exactly the same 10% of things that folks like you have been bashing Bush over for the last 8 years. Yet, that's not enough for you is it?


Could you just come out and say: "I'll come up with a reason to attack any Republican candidate no matter who they are or what their exact political ideology is"? It would be much more honest and would save us all a ton of time...

True, he just weaseled around, refused to answer the question directly and then gave a description of immigration reform which ran completely counter to his original bill."I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief."

In fact, McCain offered a Senate amendment (which failed, 49-49) to rein in the upper class cuts and instead enlarge the middle class cuts. Co-sponsored by Biden, as it turns out.Obama didn't write the law. This was one of McCain's big signature Maverick things, wasn't it? Is your defense of McCain subverting his own law "Well, Obama did so-and-so!!!"?

I was noting that all of McCain's major "Maverick" issues are things he's backpedaled from. you can try to apologise for each instance of McCain backpedaling and try to excuse it away but it doesn't change the direction of the man's feet.Well, no. I was holding him to the standard of not drilling in a place where he said we shouldn't drill.Huh-wha??? Well, now that he's lockstep with Bush on them, I have less reason to be grateful Gee... you caught me criticizing a guy whose political positions run contrary to my own. You're such a sleuth!

Edited, Oct 20th 2008 11:56pm by Jophiel