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#1 Oct 14 2008 at 2:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Fair and balanced, but apparently not very well-researched.

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He is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of "moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character."


So it pretty much turns out that this guy published false claims about Obama back in 2004 and that those have been picked up by various sources who have re-published such info without bothering to authenticate it. In the new age of the Internet, have journalistic standards really become so lax that we assign serious authority to hatemongering charlatans?

I'm talking about you, Hannity.

In case you're interested, the reason Hannity gives for interviewing this nutjob on national media is that "I, Sean Hannity, would never sit on a board with someone who had bombed the Pentagon" and he wanted to know why Barack Obama would. If that is truly the case, then he would have had better luck digging a hole in the ground and shouting his questions into it, or I don't know, ******* BEING A LEGITIMATE JOURNALIST and maybe attempting to interview Ayers, or any of the other Annenberg Challenge Board Members (of which Obama was one) or authors (of which Ayers was one), or perhaps even Alice Palmer.

Edited, Oct 14th 2008 5:53am by Atomicflea
#2 Oct 14 2008 at 4:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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But he TASERS aborted babies, Flea!!11

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#3 Oct 14 2008 at 5:04 AM Rating: Default
Holy ****. I've never watched Hannity before. I can't believe anybody would give him an ounce of credibility on pretty much anything.
#4 Oct 14 2008 at 6:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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I kind of thought we were the source of half the rumors. Because the Asylum is the center of the known universe and all.

Obama is really Nat king cole and Phyllis Diller's love child!
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#6 Oct 14 2008 at 6:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I kind of thought we were the source of half the rumors. Because the Asylum is the center of the known universe and all.

Obama is really Nat king cole and Phyllis Diller's love child!
That's just a cyberwhisper (intersayz word for the day)! He did used to be a white woman midget though, before the discovery.
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#7 Oct 14 2008 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hannity is the most frustratingly ignorant person on television. He is so stupid it makes me want to throw my television at my other television.
#9 Oct 14 2008 at 7:34 AM Rating: Good
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I see someone nuked my post on how Obama was smoking reefer and doing coke back in the late 70's
Do you honestly think that Obama's collage years are in any way relevant to anything he is doing now?

Obviously i missed the nuked post or I would address it directly.
#10 Oct 14 2008 at 7:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Obama's youth has exactly as much relevance as McCain's time in a POW camp: bupkiss.
#12 Oct 14 2008 at 7:37 AM Rating: Good
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Boy, what an article! I'm really not sure how anyone can take Hannity seriously; I think it might because it is really is just him trying to stir up trouble (and trouble always makes for good ratings!). I loved Hannity's back-pedaling after the debate.

"I would never sit down with someone who bombed the Pentagon! That's poor judgment."
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"I invite all people, all sides, to sit down with me to interview. Yes, even Andy Martin."

Hannity's pseudo-documentary was about how Obama's Chicago organizing was in fact a front for Bill Ayers' radical terrorism. The main theme: guilty by association. When confronted with the blatant Antisemitism (Gibbs never even got to the anti-Muslim history of Andry Martin), Hannity backed up, literally threw up his hands said, "I don't agree with him on that, but it was perfectly ok to interview him and post his made-up allegations as fact!"

FOX news is a joke, and Hannity is a slimeball. A dumb slimeball at that, who really should check his sources :D
#13 Oct 14 2008 at 7:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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tard,

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Do you honestly think that Obama's collage years are in any way relevant to anything he is doing now?

Obviously i missed the nuked post or I would address it directly.


The people questioning the authenticity of the person making the claim against Obama seem to think something that happened nearly 30yrs ago discredits this person from researching and presenting an honest report based on that research. I merely pointed out that if Obama is capable of change why isn't this guy?


So you agree that Bill Ayers has changed as well, is no longer a threat, and is well deserving of the title of "Citizen of the Year" in Chicago that he received in 1987?

Also that despite dabbling in drugs and a LOT of booze as a youngster, Dubyah was forgiven, right?

And despite cheating on his wife, McCain is forgiven?

Sure. I think that all of those people have a chance to be forgiven, and I'm glad you do as well and will drop the Ayers thing. Calling Andry Martin's made-up accusations an "honest report" seems to be stretching his credibility to extremes, though... but you might be making progress, Varrus!
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Just FYI, I am using this blog as a primary source for my doctorate thesis that Obama is a muslim terrorist.
#15 Oct 14 2008 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nothing got nuked, knox's posts are just getting rated down enough that they're vanishing naturally
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#16 Oct 14 2008 at 10:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Danalog the Former Programmer wrote:
Nothing got nuked, knox's posts are just getting rated down enough that they're vanishing naturally


And all was right with the world.

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Danalog the Former Programmer wrote:
Nothing got nuked, knox's posts are just getting rated down enough that they're vanishing naturally


Everyone knows this but virus, no worries.

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#18 Oct 14 2008 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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While I agree that Hannity is much to willing to get out ahead of a story (IMO steps on it badly most of the time), that does not excuse you rewording his statements to make a false point:

LockeColeMA wrote:
"I would never sit down with someone who bombed the Pentagon! That's poor judgment."
2 minutes later:
"I invite all people, all sides, to sit down with me to interview. Yes, even Andy Martin."


What he said was that he "would never sit on a board with someone who bombed the Pentagon".

There's a pretty significant difference between that and interviewing someone.


As to the documentary, was Martin the only source of information? The article only states that he's believed to be the source of the "Obama is a Muslim" rumor. But that in no way changes the mountain of fact entangling Obama and Ayers politically and professionally. I don't know why he was included in the thing (haven't watched it myself yet), but I think that the whole point of the counter here is to hope to discredit the Ayers story by discrediting someone saying something completely different.


Hannity tend to take a "kitchen sink" approach to his politics. He's one of those idiots who thinks that by listing a mountain of attacks against someone it makes his argument/side "stronger". Unfortunately, what he actually ends up doing is just giving the other side easy strawman to attack. This is one such strawman. You attack this nutball and ignore the factual parts of the story and let people assume you've debunked the whole thing.

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FOX news is a joke, and Hannity is a slimeball. A dumb slimeball at that, who really should check his sources :D



True. But honestly, he's not much worse than a whole lot of folks at so-called mainstream media outlets. They don't get attacked often for it though...
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#20 Oct 14 2008 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
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Danalog,

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Nothing got nuked, knox's posts are just getting rated down enough that they're vanishing naturally


Vanish naturally, that's more pleasing to the ear than nuked I grant you that.



And, obviously, you don't understand the difference.
#21 Oct 14 2008 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Danalog,

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Nothing got nuked, knox's posts are just getting rated down enough that they're vanishing naturally


Vanish naturally, that's more pleasing to the ear than nuked I grant you that.



Power to the people, good sir. Would you have it any other way?
#23 Oct 14 2008 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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What he said was that he "would never sit on a board with someone who bombed the Pentagon".

There's a pretty significant difference between that and interviewing someone.


You state this, and then don't follow up with what that difference is. In fact, the argument could be made that it is more significant to invite someone on your show than to be on a board with them (did you assign the members of the board? Perhaps yes, perhaps no). Either way you are splitting hairs.

Edited, Oct 14th 2008 3:44pm by Nyu
#24 Oct 14 2008 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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How could someone with my limited intellectual capacity be expected to grasp such complexities? After all I am just a humble southern hillbilly.


Belkira is from Tennessee. However, I live in Boston and I am judging you right now.

God, Varrus, I wish they had let the south secede from the union. We'll take Samira and Belkira but leave the rest.
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