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#79 Oct 13 2008 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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You explain to me whats immoral about homosexuality other than "the Bible says so," and maybe I'll take you a bit more seriously.


Other than the increased risk of disease? Did you know you can't donate blood if you've had homosexual relations?

Did you know there's a special group w/in the homosexual community that treat AIDS as a badge of honour?



Errr....

Wow what a misinformed post. First of all: I've donated blood, and have never been asked if I was a homosexual.

Second: what exactly is it about homosexual sex that puts you at higher risk for disease? Its still a weenie in a pooper, or a tongue on a vag. There's no magical factor that just introduces AIDS to the mix if you're a gay.

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Yes you did choose to be gay.
I did? I don't remember doing that. I do remember feeling funny in my pants when Miss Zalinski, my third grade teacher, would reach up to get something off the tall shelf in the classroom and her sweater would creep up revealing just a flash of the soft, smooth arch of her back. But, you know, I was 7 and had no idea that homosexuality existed. I'm not sure how I decided to be something that I wasn't even aware of.

It does leave me to ask when you decided to be straight, though? Do you have something you'd like to share?

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You weren't born with some gay gene that dictates who you're attracted to.
Wow, you've mapped my entire genome? Impressive! I don't even remember getting the cheek swab!

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And now you're part of a cult where the sole agenda includes demanding the public accept and normalize the choice you've made.
I don't think I'm part of a cult. I don't even like hanging out at lesbian bars. I do support the political goals of ensuring equal rights for gays, lesbians, and transgender people in our society. Smiley: schooled

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Remind me again how many heterosexual parades there are celebrating heterosexual behaviour?
Every homecoming parade in America for starters? If you want to know when straight pride day is, first find out when Gay pride is. Straight pride covers the other 364 days of the year.

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I wouldn't be a good Christian if I were to simply agree with the actions of a lost sect of society, especially when the Bible specifically teaches against it.
I accept that you're a member of a weird cult whose sole agenda is demanding the public accept and normalize the choice you've made. <3
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#82 Oct 13 2008 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Second: what exactly is it about homosexual sex that puts you at higher risk for disease? Its still a weenie in a pooper, or a tongue on a vag. There's no magical factor that just introduces AIDS to the mix if you're a gay.


I believe that **** sex does increase your risk for contracting the disease if one of your partners has it.

And only homosexuals have **** sex.

Right? Right??
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#83 Oct 13 2008 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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Did you know you can't donate blood if you've had homosexual relations?
Varrus according to what I read you are equally as likely to be refused the chance to give blood if you have lived in the UK in the last 25 years so what does that prove?
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You explain to me whats immoral about homosexuality other than "the Bible says so," and maybe I'll take you a bit more seriously.


Other than the increased risk of disease? Did you know you can't donate blood if you've had homosexual relations?
People born in poverty have an increased risk of disease. Are they immoral? And why is a group of people immoral because they're discriminated against?

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Did you know there's a special group w/in the homosexual community that treat AIDS as a badge of honour?
Did you know there's a special group within the Christian community that treat killing gynecologists a badge of honor?
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tard,

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Actually scientific research has recently shown exactly that.


No it hasn't. The scientists can't agree on whether they were born with that gene or if it comes about due their behaviour.



Sexual behavior doesn't change genes.

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I don't think I'm part of a cult. I don't even like hanging out at lesbian bars. I do support the political goals of ensuring equal rights for gays, lesbians, and transgender people in our society. Smiley: schooled


I'm a hetrosexual, and I don't hang out in lesbian bars, and I support the political goals of ensuring equal rights for gays, lesbians, and transgender people in our society.

Am I in a cult, too?? Smiley: um

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#87 Oct 13 2008 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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For the record:

unitedbloodservices.org wrote:
We ask you not to donate if you:
Have cold or flu symptoms or do not feel well on the day of donation.
Have had hepatitis after your 11th birthday.
Have had close contact with someone with clinical hepatitis within the past 12 months.
Have a history of cancer in the past year (except some skin or in situ cancers).
Had a blood transfusion, ear/skin piercing**, acupuncture**, accidental
needlestick or come in contact with someone else’s blood in the past 12 months.
(**Ear/skin piercing and acupuncture procedures may be acceptable depending on type of technique used.)
Are donating at Blood Centers of the Pacific or United Blood Services Central Coast and have had a tattoo in the past
12 months.
Are donating at any other locations (not BCP or UBSCC) tattoo may be acceptable if the tattoo was done in
one of these states : AL, AR, GA, IA, LA, MS, MT, ND, OK, OR, SD, TX.
Had malaria in the past 3 years, or traveled to a malarial area in the past 12 months.
Are or have been pregnant in the past 6 weeks.
Have been treated for syphilis or gonorrhea in the past 12 months.
Have used a needle to inject non-prescription drugs (including steroids).
Are at risk for exposure to HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
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knoxsouthy wrote:
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Actually scientific research has recently shown exactly that.


No it hasn't. The scientists can't agree on whether they were born with that gene or if it comes about due their behaviour.

Behavior doesn't influence genes. That silliness went out with Lamarck in the 18th century. Smiley: lol
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tard,

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Actually scientific research has recently shown exactly that.


No it hasn't. The scientists can't agree on whether they were born with that gene or if it comes about due their behaviour.



Sexual behavior doesn't change genes.

Smiley: facepalm

Didn't you know that girrafes' necks evolved from them stretching up to reach the tastier leaves? Smiley: lol
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#90 Oct 13 2008 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Remind me again how many heterosexual parades there are celebrating heterosexual behaviour?


Just remember you asked for it.

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I don't think I'm part of a cult. I don't even like hanging out at lesbian bars. I do support the political goals of ensuring equal rights for gays, lesbians, and transgender people in our society. Smiley: schooled


I'm a hetrosexual, and I don't hang out in lesbian bars, and I support the political goals of ensuring equal rights for gays, lesbians, and transgender people in our society.

Am I in a cult, too?? Smiley: um

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Yes, you're a member of the cult. I'm afraid I must bed you now, dear. Voraciously.

My regrets to the Mister.
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#93 Oct 13 2008 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Wow, he's actually right about that one.
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#94 Oct 13 2008 at 11:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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You didn't know that?

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#95 Oct 13 2008 at 11:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow, he's actually right about that one.
Yeah. It doesn't change the fact that with modern screening the ban is little more than an artifact of the original AIDS scare of the early 80s. The ban has lived long beyond its usefulness or point. Even the Red Cross would like to see it lifted, in an age where it's hard to just get enough blood to meet day-to-day needs.

That said, the risk is a factor of one particular sexual behavior and not homosexuality in itself.

Fact: Not all male homosexuals engage in **** sex. Smiley: schooled
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#96 Oct 13 2008 at 11:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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UK recently withdrew that ruling on the basis that
a) The prevalence of HIV & Hep among Heteros (incl IV Drug Users) is no longer so massively different to that among MSM
b) It discriminates & prejudices unreasonably
c) Our lawmakers are raving poofters (sorry - couldn't resist that one)

Srsly - I expect bible-bashing homophobia from varrus, but I'm disappointed in tarv's comments implying that LGBT people should keep a low profile and one or two other comments endorsing measures that reinforce victim culture.

As per my previous post, the answers lie in inclusive edjamakashun for those that fail to respect our diversitybacked up by zero tolerance for discriminatory behavioUr with real sanctions.

Except Christians of course. And the Quebequois. FUck 'em.
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#99 Oct 13 2008 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Some sad soul reported the Shriners. Smiley: laugh

Why do you hate fat, fezzed men on scooters?

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but I'm disappointed in tarv's comments implying that LGBT people should keep a low profile and one or two other comments endorsing measures that reinforce victim culture.
I didn't say they should keep a low profile, I said that isolating the victims would stop them gaining skills that would help them avoid confrontations and create a higher level of fear at the subculture being "hidden away" Smiley: schooled
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#101 Oct 13 2008 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah. It doesn't change the fact that with modern screening the ban is little more than an artifact of the original AIDS scare of the early 80s. The ban has lived long beyond its usefulness or point.


Which is why they renewed it just a couple of years ago.




Ash,

You were wrong about Israel and the ME and now this. You're going to learn most of my arguments are based in fact, or religious conviction.

I don't simply say, "this sounds good so it must be true".



I was wrong about Israel only in that Jews did have a nation in the ME a long time ago. The fact that present-day Israel is a contrivance and one that was not welcome by the then-occupants of the region remains.

Also, yes, the FDA does have regulations against homoblood, but I was shocked to discover this, and as Nobby and others have pointed out, its an outdated kneejerk reactionary law that will be overturned in time.
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