Baron von tarv wrote:
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The problem is the skin head, not his victim's lack of discretion.
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Agreed, but all people need to be taught the value of discression. It's nigh on impossible to change the mind of a bigot (See virus) but it is possible to teach Kids the necessary life skills to avoid becoming a victim.
knoxsouthy wrote:
Let me ask you this. If I wear an "I hate f*gs" t-shirt to a homosexual rally in san fran and get attacked by a mob of angry ****** should the constitution be re-written to protect me?
Baron von tarv wrote:
the idea that Homosexuals are somehow more bullied and less traumatised than Emo's or <Insert another fringe group here> Is laughable and no-one is going to create a school for them.
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Probably not, unless you provoke it.
Sorry you can't get your head around that fact but it doesn't stop it from being true. Hell the Metalheads in Plymouth always walk a different way out of town spacificly because they know if they walk down the main street they will get abused, not might, will.
The same for any minority group pretty much.
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Also, don't be dumb, Tarv. Emo kids are harassed because they don't conform with gender roles. They get beaten up simply for being "***-like
Emo clothing is in now way shape or form not Hetro btw, just so you know.
Edited, Oct 13th 2008 2:20pm by tarv
Baron von tarv wrote:
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Probably not, unless you provoke it.
Sorry you can't get your head around that fact but it doesn't stop it from being true. Hell the Metalheads in Plymouth always walk a different way out of town spacificly because they know if they walk down the main street they will get abused, not might, will.
The same for any minority group pretty much.
Well, that's just a ****** place to live. I don't want to hear about how intolerant and provincial we are, ever again.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Baron von tarv wrote:
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Probably not, unless you provoke it.
Sorry you can't get your head around that fact but it doesn't stop it from being true. Hell the Metalheads in Plymouth always walk a different way out of town spacificly because they know if they walk down the main street they will get abused, not might, will.
The same for any minority group pretty much.
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Well, that's just a sh*tty place to live. I don't want to hear about how intolerant and provincial we are, ever again.
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Too bad we ****** can't change our clothes and hairstyle and stop being gay.
Baron von tarv wrote:
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Too bad we ****** can't change our clothes and hairstyle and stop being gay.
Baron von tarv wrote:
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Probably not, unless you provoke it.
Sorry you can't get your head around that fact but it doesn't stop it from being true. Hell the Metalheads in Plymouth always walk a different way out of town spacificly because they know if they walk down the main street they will get abused, not might, will.
The same for any minority group pretty much.
Maybe it's completely different in England, but I can't see how you'd be jumped by a bunch of people for dressing like a metalhead. But then, I'm not sure why you'd want to go to a club if you don't like the type of music they play...
knoxsouthy wrote:
I hate to break this to you but people aren't roaming the streets looking for homosexuals to assualt. This generally happens when homosexuals engage in uncomfortable acts while in public in front of people who could care less about the constitution and their rights. The way they see it is we're both in public I have a right not to see acts of depravity.
I have never heard of homosexuals fucking in the street.
Holding hands, arms around one another, even sharing a kiss or two maybe. But acts of depravity? No more than a heterosexual couple, you bigot.
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Please tell me you're not equating your musical taste to a person's sexuality. I know no one can be that thick.
knoxsouthy wrote:
Belkira,
Have you seen a gay pride parade? Are f*cking kidding me?
I don't care what anyone on this site says if they have a child they will NOT take them to a gay pride parade.
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Holding hands, arms around one another, even sharing a kiss or two maybe. But acts of depravity? No more than a heterosexual couple, you bigot.
Have you seen a gay pride parade? Are f*cking kidding me?
I don't care what anyone on this site says if they have a child they will NOT take them to a gay pride parade.
knoxsouthy wrote:
Belkira,
Have you seen a gay pride parade? Are f*cking kidding me?
I don't care what anyone on this site says if they have a child they will NOT take them to a gay pride parade.
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Holding hands, arms around one another, even sharing a kiss or two maybe. But acts of depravity? No more than a heterosexual couple, you bigot.
Have you seen a gay pride parade? Are f*cking kidding me?
I don't care what anyone on this site says if they have a child they will NOT take them to a gay pride parade.
Why would you go to a gay pride parade if you were uncomfortable seeing them perform any "acts of depravity?"
I assumed you meant just out in public, Varrus. Hence the "around people who don't care to see that." But, as Ash said, Mardi Gras is just as "depraved," and I don't see you ******** about that.
knoxsouthy wrote:
lock,
Since reading comprehension isn't your strong point here's what I said;
Now follow me carefully; is there any mention of gangs of gays in my post?
I merely made the point that neo-***** and skin-heads join gangs for protection; but apparently you don't seem as concerned about their welfare.
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I do like the "I joined a gang to protect myself from roving gangs of gay kids" idea though :) That made me chuckle.
Since reading comprehension isn't your strong point here's what I said;
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Do you know why kids join the neo-***** and skin heads? Protection. To protect themselves from gangs of minorities.
Now follow me carefully; is there any mention of gangs of gays in my post?
I merely made the point that neo-***** and skin-heads join gangs for protection; but apparently you don't seem as concerned about their welfare.
Yeah, um, you were responding to a post about how neo-***** joined up to protect themselves from minorities, and the ONLY minorities mentioned in the topic previously were gays (well, and Metalheads, but we kind of have two separate stories going on here). You added in "minority gangs" in a topic about gays. The obvious conclusions are:
1. You meant gay gangs, because no other minority groups had been discussed.
2. You were throwing up irrelevant points. And to be fair, I did call it a strawman, so it was probably this second point :)
You're really bad at this logical debate, huh?
Also,
Varrus wrote:
Let me ask you this. If I wear an "I hate f*gs" t-shirt to a homosexual rally in san fran and get attacked by a mob of angry ****** should the constitution be re-written to protect me?
Sorry, I saw mob as synonymous with gangs here. According to Thesaurus.com, they are similar meanings: http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/mob?jss=0
See? Logical deduction. Discussion about gay students + "white kids join neo-***** for protection" + your own example IMMEDIATELY after about "mobs of ******" = you saying white kids join the neo-**** movement to protect themselves from gay gangs.
Logical!
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I assumed you meant just out in public, Varrus. Hence the "around people who don't care to see that." But, as Ash said, Mardi Gras is just as "depraved," and I don't see you ******** about that.
I've been to a couple of Gay Pride events, one in Key west years ago and another here in Plymouth last year, seemed pretty normal to me both times.
knoxsouthy wrote:
Mindel,
I hate to break this to you but people aren't roaming the streets looking for homosexuals to assualt. This generally happens when homosexuals engage in uncomfortable acts while in public in front of people who could care less about the constitution and their rights. The way they see it is we're both in public I have a right not to see acts of depravity.
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Possible, yes, but wrong. We don't need to teach people to hide who they are so that people won't beat them up for it. We need to teach people to leave others the @#%^ alone, even when they make one feel uncomfortable.
I hate to break this to you but people aren't roaming the streets looking for homosexuals to assualt. This generally happens when homosexuals engage in uncomfortable acts while in public in front of people who could care less about the constitution and their rights. The way they see it is we're both in public I have a right not to see acts of depravity.
Two guys holding hands. Two women cuddling together while in a movie theater?
Baron von tarv wrote:
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Please tell me you're not equating your musical taste to a person's sexuality. I know no one can be that thick.
Baron von tarv wrote:
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I assumed you meant just out in public, Varrus. Hence the "around people who don't care to see that." But, as Ash said, Mardi Gras is just as "depraved," and I don't see you ******** about that.
I've been to a couple of Gay Pride events, one in Key west years ago and another here in Plymouth last year, seemed pretty normal to me both times.
I agree with you, I wouldn't take a child to Mardi Gras. I have never been to a gay pride event, but I imagine that there are gays there, and that they aren't ashamed of it... and they'll probaly be holding hands at least.
I've always heard that the gay pride events turn... well, "depraved," I guess. But I've never seen it myself.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Baron von tarv wrote:
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I assumed you meant just out in public, Varrus. Hence the "around people who don't care to see that." But, as Ash said, Mardi Gras is just as "depraved," and I don't see you ******** about that.
I've been to a couple of Gay Pride events, one in Key west years ago and another here in Plymouth last year, seemed pretty normal to me both times.
I agree with you, I wouldn't take a child to Mardi Gras. I have never been to a gay pride event, but I imagine that there are gays there, and that they aren't ashamed of it... and they'll probaly be holding hands at least.
I've always heard that the gay pride events turn... well, "depraved," I guess. But I've never seen it myself.
). There's certainly lots of PDA, but that's pretty typical of any major outdoor event these days.
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