Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

Troopergate Concluded: Palin Abused Her PowerFollow

#77 Oct 13 2008 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
Will swallow your soul
******
29,360 posts
Muslims are Semites.

____________________________
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

#78 Oct 13 2008 at 9:59 AM Rating: Excellent
knoxsouthy wrote:
Samy,

Quote:
Note that the statement was not "no Jews in the Middle East" but "no Jewish state in the Middle East."


Anti-semites think jews don't deserve a nation either.
Many orthodox Jews believe Jews don't deserve a nation. What's your point, other than to try and paint Sammie as a Jew-hater?
#79 Oct 13 2008 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
****
8,619 posts
Quote:
Note that the statement was not "no Jews in the Middle East" but "no Jewish state in the Middle East."
It was still totally and utterly wrong, hell without a jewish state in the region neither Christianity OR Islam would ever have come into being since both are in effect offshoots of Judahism.
#80 Oct 13 2008 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
13,007 posts
knoxsouthy wrote:
Samy,

Quote:
Note that the statement was not "no Jews in the Middle East" but "no Jewish state in the Middle East."


Anti-semites think jews don't deserve a nation either.
You can toss "Anti-Semite" around all day: the fact remains that Israel did not exist before 1947. Jewish people lived in the ME, but they had no official nation. It was the creation of this nation by dividing up existing ones that fueled a lot of the anti-Jew and anti-West sentiment in the region today. NOT, as has been contended by some, our 'wealth' or our 'immorality.'
#81 Oct 13 2008 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
****
8,619 posts
Quote:
Jewish people lived in the ME, but they had no official nation.
Neither did the Palestinians.
#82 Oct 13 2008 at 10:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Samira wrote:
Muslims are Semites.
Trufax. Moreso than most Jews, in most cases. We've interbred a lot with Turks and other Europeans over the years. Such is life in Diaspora. =)
#83 Oct 13 2008 at 10:03 AM Rating: Excellent
Will swallow your soul
******
29,360 posts
And again I realize I should have specified "Arab Muslims".

____________________________
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

#84 Oct 13 2008 at 10:05 AM Rating: Excellent
Ministry of Silly Cnuts
*****
19,524 posts
Mindel wrote:
When you're a Muslim in a Jewish neighborhood, you thank Allah for the kosher butcher. Smiley: schooled
That's the main reason Brick Lane is now London's Bangaldeshi Capital - they settled there among the existing Jewish community for that reason.

The relationship between most Jews and Muslims here (Imams & Rabbis, Orthodox, progressive and secular) is pretty good. Most of our local Masjids and Synagogues have joint community programmes and often (respectfully) visit each others' places of worship.

In the same way that a small proportion of Americans who are drooling fUcking xenophobes get USA a bum rep around the world, so a handful of idiots get Islam and Judaism a crap name (usually with the contempt of their mainstream religious entities.)
____________________________
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
#85 Oct 13 2008 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
Baron von tarv wrote:
Quote:
Note that the statement was not "no Jews in the Middle East" but "no Jewish state in the Middle East."
It was still totally and utterly wrong, hell without a jewish state in the region neither Christianity OR Islam would ever have come into being since both are in effect offshoots of Judahism.
True of Christianity, but not so much of Islam. Judaism and Islam are cousins, raised in the same area out of tribal populations that shared the same customs and gods and prophets. Islam acknowledges the common roots of the two religions.

Christianity, though, is the Joanie loves Chachi of world religions.
#86 Oct 13 2008 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
13,007 posts
Nobby wrote:
a small proportion of Americans who are drooling fUcking xenophobes get USA a bum rep around the world
You'd really, really be surprised.Smiley: frown
#88 Oct 13 2008 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
*****
13,007 posts
knoxsouthy wrote:
Ash,

Quote:
You can toss "Anti-Semite" around all day: the fact remains that Israel did not exist before 1947.


And the USA didn't exist prior to the 18th century. Guess we don't have a right to be a nation either.

What qualifies any people to assume they have more of a right to a particular area than another?

No, we really don't. We were ******** to the Natives.

But that aside, I never said I disagreed or agreed with the right to Israel to exist. All I'm saying is: that's why they're pissed.
#89 Oct 13 2008 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
knoxsouthy wrote:
Ash,

Quote:
You can toss "Anti-Semite" around all day: the fact remains that Israel did not exist before 1947.


And the USA didn't exist prior to the 18th century. Guess we don't have a right to be a nation either.

What qualifies any people to assume they have more of a right to a particular area than another?

Overwhelming force. The US took this land from the native population, killing them with abandon. You can't really apply that mentality to the foundation of Israel because 1) they didn't have the resources to wipe out the Arabs like the US wiped out of the native Americans and, 2) even if they had, genocide wasn't nearly as well accepted in the 1940s as it was in the 1740s. Smiley: schooled
#90 Oct 13 2008 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
knoxsouthy wrote:
What qualifies any people to assume they have more of a right to a particular area than another?



Apparently the amount of damage and pain they can do to the people who were already there.

Isreal and Palestine are working on that right now. Whoever is left standing wins.
#91 Oct 13 2008 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
13,007 posts
You know, all this stuff made me remember something...

Waaayyyyy back, I believe around 2000 or 2001, I was browsing around the internet and randomly typed in www.iraq.gov. This was, of course, when Saddam Hussein was still in power and we hadn't sent anyone there.

There was an open letter, supposedly from him, on the site, addressed to America in general. I wish I could remember what it said now, it seemed very surreal at the time. I wasn't as knowledgeable on politics as I am now. I bet it doesn't even exist on the interweb anymore, I know the website is different since we conquered them.

Just thinking aloud. Er, in type.
#92 Oct 13 2008 at 10:41 AM Rating: Excellent
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
You know, all this stuff made me remember something...

Waaayyyyy back, I believe around 2000 or 2001, I was browsing around the internet and randomly typed in www.iraq.gov. This was, of course, when Saddam Hussein was still in power and we hadn't sent anyone there.

There was an open letter, supposedly from him, on the site, addressed to America in general. I wish I could remember what it said now, it seemed very surreal at the time. I wasn't as knowledgeable on politics as I am now. I bet it doesn't even exist on the interweb anymore, I know the website is different since we conquered them.

Just thinking aloud. Er, in type.


I found this, it was about 9/11.
#94 Oct 13 2008 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
Prodigal Son
******
20,643 posts
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
You know, all this stuff made me remember something...

Waaayyyyy back, I believe around 2000 or 2001, I was browsing around the internet and randomly typed in www.iraq.gov. This was, of course, when Saddam Hussein was still in power and we hadn't sent anyone there.

There was an open letter, supposedly from him, on the site, addressed to America in general. I wish I could remember what it said now, it seemed very surreal at the time. I wasn't as knowledgeable on politics as I am now. I bet it doesn't even exist on the interweb anymore, I know the website is different since we conquered them.

Just thinking aloud. Er, in type.

Well that was fuCking useless. Do you remember even the gist of the letter?
____________________________
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
#96 Oct 13 2008 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
knoxsouthy wrote:
Quote:
Apparently the amount of damage and pain they can do to the people who were already there.

Isreal and Palestine are working on that right now. Whoever is left standing wins.


That's it!

It's not about right vs. wrong or just vs. injust only strong vs weak. Right now Israel is strong so they have every right to the land they've founded their nation on.


Palestine is holding their own, as well. But that doesn't necessarily give anyone the right to act like a barbarian.

Might does not make right.
#97 Oct 13 2008 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
13,007 posts
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
You know, all this stuff made me remember something...

Waaayyyyy back, I believe around 2000 or 2001, I was browsing around the internet and randomly typed in www.iraq.gov. This was, of course, when Saddam Hussein was still in power and we hadn't sent anyone there.

There was an open letter, supposedly from him, on the site, addressed to America in general. I wish I could remember what it said now, it seemed very surreal at the time. I wasn't as knowledgeable on politics as I am now. I bet it doesn't even exist on the interweb anymore, I know the website is different since we conquered them.

Just thinking aloud. Er, in type.


I found this, it was about 9/11.
Thats it!
#98 Oct 13 2008 at 10:52 AM Rating: Excellent
knoxsouthy wrote:
Mindel,

Quote:
genocide wasn't nearly as well accepted in the 1940s


Tell that to Stalin or Pol Pot.
Two of the most despised dictators of the 20th century? Check. Smiley: schooled
#99 Oct 13 2008 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
***
1,945 posts
That was an interesting read, thanks for posting it.
#101 Oct 13 2008 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
*****
12,049 posts
knoxsouthy wrote:

It's not about right vs. wrong or just vs. injust only strong vs weak. Right now Israel is strong so they have every right to the land they've founded their nation on.



So reading your idea here, that means that if Iran wipes the "stinking corpse" of Israel off the face of the planet, they have every right to the land? I'm interested in how you support such a view :-/
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 190 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (190)