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I had work tonight and was only able to catch the end of the debate on the radio on my way home, but there was one point that I felt she sounded extremely flustered. She was talking much faster than she was before, and breathing every few words. I believe this was during her response to the question about being a heartbeat away from the President. I felt like I was back in high school watching freshmen audition for the fall play.

All in all I thought they both did a pretty good job, but I felt as though Palin was a little more transparent in her parroting of McCain's position. It was nice to see that they both didn't necessarily agree 100% with their presidential candidate. Made me feel as though Palin might be able to be independent (not party affiliation) after all.

When Palin said that Biden's teacher wife's reward was in Heaven, Biden should have said "That's great but teachers would rather get paid more here on Earth".

Folks elsewhere on the computernets are ripping into Palin for winking... repeatedly. Opinion is that one does look presidental while saying "You betcha!" and winking.

CBS snap poll of uncommitted voters gives it to Biden by a fair margin.

Palin did this whole eyelash fluttery thing the whole time.

She came across like a newscaster without a teleprompter. I could see that journalism school coming through this time (didn't during her interviews with Couric) and for that her professors deserve accolades. However, her poly sci professors, if she had any, probably were banging their heads on the wall.

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Edited, Oct 3rd 2008 12:45am by Paskil

Well numbers don't do very well for us if we cannot remember them, right? I can only assume that by "numbers" you mean logical straight-forward statements and by "conceptual positions" you mean empty strawman debate styles and the echoing regurgitation of the scraps of credivility that your party can still muster..

For instance; her main attack against Biden was when he pointed out the the ridiculous folly of the last 8 years and McCain's connection to it. All that Palin could retort with was an attempt to divert the audience from the facts and accuse Biden of living in the past?

That is not to mention her meaningless good ole' hometown rhetoric. Way to try to steer a vice presidential debate toward a fucking Oprah interview with a bunch of bullshit about [I'm paraphrasing]"I'm qualified to be vice president become I'm a mother".
Props to Biden for calling her out on that pathetic shit.


But sadly enough the average American people are going to be drawn toward actual substance and facts, are they? No. They are going to go for someone who's biggest claim to anything politically relevant is that they look like and talk like a soccer mom.
Yeah. I love my friends and family; but quite honestly if any of them ran for president I wouldn't be that self centered to vote for them.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2008 12:53am by Kelvyquayo

Well that just her lil' ole way of lettin' us know that she's just got it all under control! and that momma's gonna take car'o all 'dem bad ol' dictators and economies.

To her credit, she did pronounce 'nuclear' correctly the very first time she said it...dunno what happened after that..

The very fact that we're being asked to take Sarah Palin seriously is a big enough insult in itself to deny John McCain my vote. Is he that cynical, does he believe that we are that stupid, does he think we are so undeserving?

Leading up to the debate, all of the pundits were going on asking if Sarah Palin would be ready. We all wondered the same. A lot of us thought it would be a slaughter. Would she be able to discuss the issues? Would the McCain campaign be able to prep her in time? The very fact that these questions were our focus--would she be able even to discuss the issues competently--are a testament to Sarah Palin's staggering inadequacy. You can't cram for an office of this magnitude.

I mean, what the hell? McCain has the gall to call Obama inexperienced and not capable of understanding, and then turn around and stand next to Sarah Palin and wave blithely at America.

And it is a distinct possibility that Palin may spend some time as President. What then? She has less knowledge and is less articulate than George W. Bush. So if McCain croaks, we will possibly have a worse president than GeoB.

And what's with all the winking and head cocking? What the **** is that? Never mind not looking presidential; i'd be more concerned about not looking like a waitress at hooters if i were her.

I'm NOT Joe Six-pack. I'm tired of the constant meaningless drivel and shrill bickering as people try recklessly to get ahead. I want substance. I want info. I want a candidate to stand up and break down some numbers. I'm tired of being catered to like i'm the lowest common denominator. I'm tired of feeling like someone on the other end assumes that we're all idiots. I'm starving for some truth, for some thoughtfulness, for someone to stand up and show a little love for reason.

Can Obama and Biden provide that? I don't know. Probably not. But at least they're not trying to sell us ******** wholesale like we saw tonight. I mean, Biden at least seemed genuine. Obama, when he concede ground to McCain in their debate, showed that he has some intellectual honesty. No such smoke signals from the desert island that is the McCain campaign.

Sarah Palin is a knockout and she knocked out Biden. For someone who ostensibly was supposed to be murdered out there against the wiley old Senate veteren, she stood her own, gave a good bit back, and looked damned sexy doing it too.

On that basis alone, even if you were to at worst call it a draw, she won handily by outperforming Biden at what was supposed to be a cake walk for him.

She did extremely well, particularly since all you heard out of Biden was, "Wonk, wonk, wonk, policy policy policy, wonk, wonk, wonkity-wonk, white noise, wonk, more white noise, wonk."

Palin, on the other hand, was personable, spoke to typical Americans on their level without all the Senate/political-speak, and appeared to being having fun too.

Did I mention she's hot?

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I thought Biden took it as well. He was succinct, focused and prepared. Nothing she threw at him was a problem. I loved the part when he addressed her constant use of the word "maverick". Dy-no-mite.

Palin did o-k, by my reckoning. Her "babe of the woods" bit got old for me really fast. I'll say it again though, one can only have gone up from where Palin sat before the debate and she did redeem herself somewhat by simply not looking like a complete buffoon. It is very notable that she seemed to avoid the questions.

Hope to see what I saw refected in the polls this weekend.

Listening to her and her colloquilisms reminds me of Scandanavian Midwesterners. My wife's family all talk like that, with Fargo-like sayings. "Soooper!" "Oh, yah!" or "ruff" instead of roof-- that sort of stuff. I can see where to the untrained or unaccustomed ear it grates with all those hard vowel sounds and folksy-isms.

Her winking at me tells me she wants mah hawt body, that's all. It was her secret message to me.

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Hmmm, we'll see. (Obviously) My thinking is people are telling polls one thing but how they vote will be another. Having lived in the Deep South for decades I don't think most people-- including Democrats --will vote for a black man. It's ugly, but there it is. It's not a Republican/Democrat thing, it's just history for them. But that's just my take. Apply heavy amounts of salt as needed.

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