VP DebateFollow

I have. Along with an assortment of NFL categorical competitions. She's winning on points so far.

Well, one out of six CNN commentators agrees with you...

They were answers to two different questions. His answers reflected the questions.

I think I'd like the ticket better as Biden/Obama. Wonder who the senate would rather have bestowed the cermonial title as their president?

Biden SMOKED her. I know it was expected, but it bears saying. As one of the people I was watching the program with said, "The best you can say about Sarah Palin is that she didn't fall apart." I definitely have some criticisms, and Palin was a bit more personal for the camera, but GODDAMN did Biden do better.

First, the Totem scale, where "If you agree with the opposition, you lose."
I counted, and while I forget the exact issues, Biden agreed with Palin 1 or 2 times. Palin agreed with him (flat out said "I agree") 3 or 4 times. So, there's our Asylum conservative view (I'll scroll down after I post to see if anyone agrees).

Biden used statistics, he was emphatic. Palin used lingo (dog-gone-it!), and came off looking flustered. The question about the VP's role in the Senate was amazing; it completely showed that she has no idea about what she is speaking. Biden's response with the "bridge to nowhere" was awesome.

Criticism of Biden: Use Fundamental a bit more often, Joe. And stop making two-point lists "Blah blah blah... number one. Number two... blah blah blah!" He did that several times. He was slow to start at learning to love the camera, but after he looked its way he got it down pat.

Gosh, he totally tore her apart. I mean, at least in the presidential debates McCain came off as semi-knowledgeable about foreign policy. Palin failed at that, gave vague generalizations, tried for an emotional pull, and kept uttering the same false speaking points even after Biden would say how wrong they were (ie, troops spending, tax cuts, renewable energy, etc).

Gosh. I sorta wish Biden were running for president instead!

Yup. It was just bad timing that right after he finished answering a question about how he'd be as a VP by saying that in 30 years he hasn't changed, he then switches to the next topic and talks about how he and Obama are all about change.

Not his fault directly, but it's one of the things Biden has a habit of doing. He gets off topic, makes a joke and then ends up stepping on his own message a bit. This one was pretty minor though, I doubt if most people even caught it.

Oh, and favorite gaffe of the night:

Palin: "Senator O'Biden"

Palin did as well as I expected her to. I think a lot of dems were hoping she would crush under the pressure of this debate and that may have a negative impact. I know her ability to talk coherant sentences will have the GOP party celebrating into the wee hours of the morning. That said, Biden performed the best I've ever seen him perform, he did everything and beyond what the Democratic party needed him to do and he came off even better than Palin in both plans, facts, substance, and most importantly details. You could tell when Palin felt cornered she always ran to her safe zone, energy. There were also a few times when her voice started to waver and you could see her visibly shake. I heard no specifics on bankruptcy, the war on Iraq, Afghanistan, or enough information on what would be cut back due to the economic crisis. The fact she said she had only been at this for 5 weeks and could not take away promises she did not make may sound good in the moment, but it only reinforces her limited assesment of the entirety of what a VP needs to know and be able to do.

Palin did what she needed to do to regain a bit of confidence in her, but Biden took this debate and ran to the finish line first, and looked great doing it.

As for him tearing up, pure win

Which one do we want to bomb?

No, which is a bigger threat and he's right, it is rural Pakistan whose democracy we need to support.

Yeah, there is. For a political debate, which this obviously was, Palin certainly drove home her message. Technically she evaded a quarter of the questions, and gave only mention to others before dismissing them. The ones she nailed, she nailed hard though.

Personally, I'll be voting democrat this year (I've voted green the last two presidential elections - no worry though, my state was solid;). I find Sarah's Palin's demonization of government, and her continued insistance that the American people don't want government in their lives ignorantly offensive. She seems to have a very different opinion of a what a representative democracy is, than I do. Individual responsiblity is inherent is a government of the people for the people.

....and with the life expectancy of McCain, I don't want her as Pres.

I guess I'll throw my take in here as well.

Biden performed exactly how I thought he needed to in this debate. He wasn't pushy, was informative, and stayed on topic. I was concerned that he would do something that would give the media an excuse to say "He was mean to her". Thankfully, he didn't give the networks anything to run with.

Palin did exactly what she was coached to do: deliver talking points non-stop. She didn't make any major mistakes, but "all talk, no substance" would be pretty accurate. With the low expectations for her performance, staunch righties will scream all over the AM airwaves and news programs that she did great and make her performance out to be some great "comeback".

It will be interesting to see how the media is spinning it in the morning.

..and Man, he musta just had his teeth ultra-bleached - his smile was really BIG and WHITE. He gave Sarah a run for the money on the sex-appeal scale. What's with his right eye though?



Edited, Oct 3rd 2008 5:25am by Elinda