Maine Public Broadcasting is re-airing (streamed) this debate today from 1:00-3:00pm (EST)
Edited, Sep 29th 2008 3:14pm by Elinda
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Alma wrote:
I lost my post
This is the kind of "McCain won the debate" I love.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5904352&page=1
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll29-2008sep29,0,57477.story
http://news.scotsman.com/world/Polls-give-Obama-clear-edge.4536282.jp
I can hardly wait for the VP debates.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5904352&page=1
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll29-2008sep29,0,57477.story
http://news.scotsman.com/world/Polls-give-Obama-clear-edge.4536282.jp
I can hardly wait for the VP debates.
Well, as the polls move, it doesn't seem that Obama lost the debate so far as numbers go. Rasmussen still has him with a 5pt lead over McCain with two days of post-debate polling included.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#80REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 29 2008 at 8:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm sure Kuwait would disagree with you on this. Did you forget that Iraq was under sanctions by the U.N. after they attacked Kuwait? They tried to take over another country. The U.N. just didn't want to do anything about it because most of the members were making money in the Oil for Food scandal. The U.S. couldn't turn a blind eye after 9/11 and inteligence that strongly suggested Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. If Bush had ignored all this, he would be getting reamed the other way. Not to mention the genocide that their government was implementing. Looking back we probably didn't need to go to Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein's government, however, if we had not I would have considered our government negligent to not act in light of the information available at the time and Iraq's history of violence under Saddam Hussein's regime.
Rasmussen has new VA numbers coming out today. We'll see if he's doing better or worse than the +5 he was at four days ago.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
knoxsouthy wrote:
You have heard of the Wilder effect havn't you?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
The Wilder effect and the Bradly effect are largely dead. The Appalacian areas these days now are not afraid to say they're not voting for Obama, because "he doesn't have enough experience" and "he's an elitist." Never mind that neither of those things is true, it safely gives them an out and a reason to say they're voting for McCain other than "Obama is a black Muslim terrorist."
(Sadly, in recent days white Americans have committed a heinous act of terrorism on our own soil. My heart goes out to the Muslim families whose Ramadan was interrupted by some ********* spraying chemicals in their nursery.)
(Sadly, in recent days white Americans have committed a heinous act of terrorism on our own soil. My heart goes out to the Muslim families whose Ramadan was interrupted by some ********* spraying chemicals in their nursery.)
"Never mind that neither of those things is true, it safely gives them an out and a reason to say they're voting for McCain other than 'Obama is a black Muslim terrorist.'" --Cat-ho
And you know this to true, how? You speak for all these people and their motivations? Generalize much?
Totem
And you know this to true, how? You speak for all these people and their motivations? Generalize much?
Totem
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Did you forget that Iraq was under sanctions by the U.N. after they attacked Kuwait?
If you're going to break international law when it suits you, then you can hardly appeal to the U.N. and its sanctions as a higher authority.
Amusingly enough, though tangential, it seems lots of women really are shallow enough to vote for the McCain-Palin ticket just because there's a woman on it.
knoxsouthy wrote:
Cat,
It's not the white republicans you have to worry about being honest with the pollsters.
It's not the white republicans you have to worry about being honest with the pollsters.
knoxsouthy wrote:
Kavek,
I would say blacks are only going to vote for Obama because he's black; but truth be told they only vote for whoevers bringing them free chicken.
I would say blacks are only going to vote for Obama because he's black; but truth be told they only vote for whoevers bringing them free chicken.
Kavekk wrote:
Amusingly enough, though tangential, it seems lots of women really are shallow enough to vote for the McCain-Palin ticket just because there's a woman on it.
They're words, not mine. Although, I'm not sure I'm in complete disagreement either.
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AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
knoxsouthy wrote:
Cat,
It's not the white republicans you have to worry about being honest with the pollsters.
It's not the white republicans you have to worry about being honest with the pollsters.
Whenever I come here to see the latest stupid post by Knox, I can't; You guys rate him into oblivion. Its like reading a one sided arguement...which is ironic considering that is what it is anyways.
/raises his hand
Tee hee!
/giggle
Totem
Edited, Sep 29th 2008 4:04pm by Totem
Tee hee!
/giggle
Totem
Edited, Sep 29th 2008 4:04pm by Totem
#97REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 29 2008 at 12:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well, it's not like either candidate will bring about much change. Obama will carry out the liberal agenda and McCain will carry out the republican agenda and both will try to control more aspects of your life. Race, sex, age, style, ability to speak, eye color, religion, zodiac sign, are all just as good a reason to vote for these particular candidates.
Jophiel wrote:
Rasmussen has new VA numbers coming out today.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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