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#1 Sep 16 2008 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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In the last couple weeks Ive met three separate young women who have all chosen to use their last name or part of their hyphenated married last name as thier common name for general use. The three young women 'choose' to be referred to as Loomis, Boyd, and Barrett.

Two are at the University where I take classes, one is a new employee at here at my work.

I'd not really encountered this before excepting in isolated cases.

Have others run into this?

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#2 Sep 16 2008 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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I see that fairly common in the military. Hubby's name is Ray but lots of people called him "Stan", a truncation of our last name.
#3 Sep 16 2008 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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In the last couple weeks Ive met three separate young women who have all chosen to use their last name or part of their hyphenated married last name as thier common name for general use. The three young women 'choose' to be referred to as Loomis, Boyd, and Barrett.

Two are at the University where I take classes, one is a new employee at here at my work.

I'd not really encountered this before excepting in isolated cases.

Have others run into this?



So Sally Black marries George Smith and she decides to go by the name: Black Smith?

Nope, never heard of that. Wow. Just wow. I recommend the coin toss. Man-and-wife...kiss the bride...toss the coin and decide the new family name for all. Simple, no thought involved, no prejudice.
#4 Sep 16 2008 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Nope, never heard of that. Wow. Just wow. I recommend the coin toss. Man-and-wife...kiss the bride...toss the coin and decide the new family name for all. Simple, no thought involved, no prejudice.
I hadn't either before I was introduced to one of these young women here at work. As we shook hands she said "I go by Loomis" (her last name). Then last week, we had introductions in the college course I'm taking. This is a grad level course so most of the folks are mid-twentish. Two of the women asked to be referred to by their surnames (Boyd and Barrett). One of these was hyphenated with her married name, but she only used one part of it for a common name.
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#5 Sep 16 2008 at 10:17 AM Rating: Good
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Happens regularly in our office if multiple people have the same first name. Although, never have I seen anyone choose to be known that way.
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#6 Sep 16 2008 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Happens regularly in our office if multiple people have the same first name. Although, never have I seen anyone choose to be known that way.
Ya know that, I think, is what caught my attention. All three had specifically 'asked' to be referred to by these last names.

I didn't know if maybe it was, perhaps, to remove the female sounding cognomen from the business/academic world.
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#7 Sep 16 2008 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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This did not work out so well for Nina Foch.
#8 Sep 16 2008 at 10:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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I had a college professor named Paul Roscoe. He went by "Jim".

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#9 Sep 16 2008 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
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In junior high and high school, we all went by our Surnames. I dunno why, you just never really called anyone who was a friend or acquaintance by their first name.

And of course it was very prevalent in football. Since our last names were all that was on our jerseys.
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#10 Sep 16 2008 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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There was an article on this in Slate some months back. Apparently this is a trend started by feminists to over-throw our modern patriarchal society by demonstrating a supposedly more even handed approach towards the norm in typical last-naming conventions.

/shrugs

Meh. Like garbage collectors or enviromental sanitation engineers, both ideas stink at the end of the day.

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#11 Sep 16 2008 at 12:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Huh. Never heard of this trend.

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#12 Sep 16 2008 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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Huh. Never heard of this trend.



Me either. And I would never ask to be called by my last name.
#13 Sep 16 2008 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, it was a small article written by a woman who encountered the same thing as Elinda. When she inquired about it, the woman's response was more or less what is in my previous post. It seems to be the latest evolution of the hyphenated name to a hodge-podge of mixed sounds and letters from both spouses' last names. In the article she referenced others who anagrammed their new name and others who "corporatized" their name like you might a football stadium, ie Qualcomm or SafeCo Field.

All-in-all, it sounded pretty silly to me and obviously left the person meeting these clever little trendsetters confused.

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Edited, Sep 16th 2008 4:07pm by Totem
#14 Sep 16 2008 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, seems a bit contrived.

Oh, well.

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#15 Sep 16 2008 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
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I'm trying to blend my maiden name and my current name and I'm coming up blank.

Roson, maybe? (Which totally sucks)

Johnark? haha

/sigh
#16 Sep 16 2008 at 12:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Joanark!

It's totally feminist.

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#17 Sep 16 2008 at 12:15 PM Rating: Good
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Joanark!

It's totally feminist.



Great. Now I have to make an alt. Smiley: bah
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Joanark!

It's totally feminist.

Oh Rouen, tu seras donc ma dernière demeure?

Rouen, Rouen, j'ai grand peur que tu n'aies à souffrir de ma mort!
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#19 Sep 16 2008 at 12:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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It'll be the Rouen of her, mark me words.

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#20 Sep 16 2008 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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Whatcho talkin' 'bout her derriere for, man? Nads is a kept woman. Dude'll kill you for less.

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Samira wrote:
It'll be the Rouen of her, mark me words.



Smiley: banghead
#22 Sep 16 2008 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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It'll be the Rouen of her, mark me words.

20-odd years ago, after a disasttous gig in that beautiful City, Me and our lead singer wrote a song called "The Road to Rouen".

Last year, fluffy-faced brit-pop scampsters "Supergrass" recorded an album there called "The Road to Rouen".

Apart from the fact that our song was *****, I call that plagiarism. Smiley: mad
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#23 Sep 16 2008 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Happens regularly in our office if multiple people have the same first name. Although, never have I seen anyone choose to be known that way.
Ya know that, I think, is what caught my attention. All three had specifically 'asked' to be referred to by these last names.

I didn't know if maybe it was, perhaps, to remove the female sounding cognomen from the business/academic world.


Ah, I can see that.

I would have no problem with that. I often encounter people who go by one, the other or just initials due to the relative difficulty of pronouncing foreign names.

In my misspent youth I briefly spent some time with a group of surfers. They preferred the use of the last name, as it accorded more respect.

Ironically, their girlfriends all called them by their first names. These were names I had literally never heard before, or again. It was kind of like charades.
#24 Sep 16 2008 at 11:10 PM Rating: Good
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As for the surname-on-marriage thing, I like the hyphenated solution.

That is a bit of a problem for applying to the children though, because the third generation is going to end up with hyphenated surnames that are four words long. Obviously unweildy and unworkable. Surnames have to dropped somewhere along the process. But I don't like the automatic taking of the male's surname either.

I rather like the idea of partner hyphenating each other's names, and when you name the children, you give them a hybrid surname of the two parents. If you follow a fairly consistent rule of giving female children the first half of the mother's original surname with the second half of the father's original surname, and give male children the first half of the father's original surname with the second half of the mother's original surname, you actually wind up, if you follow some examples down a few generations, with it all working out so that there are very neatly surviving Matrilineal names and Patrilineal names within surnames.

You have to write it all down in a family-tree graphic to actually see the neat keeping of matrilineal and patrilineal names, and how generations of boys and girls have same surname parts that trace up and down all the generations to their umpteenth grandparents and umpteenth grandchildren, but it does work out neatly, especially if you give yourself permission to tweak exactly how you hybridise the two halves of the surnames.
#25 Sep 17 2008 at 3:22 AM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't think anything of it, but then again I call my father by his last name all the time.
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