What was the over/under on a Biden gaffe?Follow

Haven't done any research at all, but I heard some rumors that the Obama camp is doing a lot of discussing with the Clintons right now. There's some thought that Obama will dump Biden and decide to take Hillary anyway. I think that would be a mistake since it would prove that it's all about her gender rather than her politics, and it could just be bogus rumors.

But it's amusing to think about...

It certainly didn't take ol' Plagerizin' Joe long to stick that well educated, internationally nuanced, and vastly experienced foot in his mouth. Well done, Joe! Must make it hard to properly enunciate words like "articulate" and "clean," huh?

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Why is waiting for Biden to say something stupid any different than the other 3 main players saying something stupid? Which they already have, I believe....

I'd actually argue that this has been pretty much the definition of his entire career. He's never done *anything* out of lockstep with the interests that support him directly. He's never crossed a party line, and seems to have a position on every issue that veers around dramatically as the political wind blows. He's against drilling when talking to environmentalists, but ok with it when talking to people who have to put gas in their cars. He's for gun control when talking to Liberals in Illinois, but suddenly ok with private ownership when the issue swings the other was in the Supreme Court case recently.

What he calls "nuance", I call equivocation. He's very good at being just vague enough to allow him to tell whomever is in front of him at the moment something that seems to be exactly what they want to hear.



Hard to say. I think they screwed the pooch on this one. The Dems have a hard time politically because they have the Liberal activist Tiger by the tail most of the time. Sometimes, it's the other way around. Those voices are loud but not very politically savvy. They managed to gain power back for the Dems in 2006, but the cost was a focus on a course of action that the Dems knew would be political suicide to pursue (ending the war immediately). The result has been one of, if not the, least productive Congress ever and longstanding single digit approval ratings.

Same deal with Obama. The hard left wouldn't let it go. They were infatuated with him and unable to see his glaring flaws. Instead of going with reason, the Dems were forced to push him higher and higher. And now, he's going to fall. Hard. If they'd been more patient and gone with their heads instead of their hearts, they'd very likely have won with Clinton and would have Obama waiting in the wings 8 years down the road. Stupidly handled IMO.

Now. Assuming he loses, he'll be the guy who should have won by a landslide but failed miserably. It's very very rare for a nominee of a party who loses a presidential election to get a second chance. He wont be able to run on being a fresh face and would have to find some way to convince voters that even though he lost last time, there's something different about him now. That's a really hard sell. It's possible, but unlikely.


This is just part of what happens when your political ideology appeals to people primarily on the emotional aspects of issues. You get irrational political decisions.

Lol, the most recent gaffe:

In Columbia, Mo., this week, Mr. Biden urged a paraplegic state official to stand up to be recognized. “Chuck, stand up, let the people see you,” Mr. Biden shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham, before realizing, to his horror, that Mr. Graham uses a wheelchair.

“Oh, God love ya,” Mr. Biden said. “What am I talking about?”


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/12/us/politics/12biden.html?ref=us

Hoo-boy. It just keeps getting better and better with Plagerizin' Joe. Sure makes the election season entertaining.
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its a fox news wet dream.

not gona happen. is not even being considered. more than likely, they are going to get hillary involved in publically acknoledgeing her for a cabinet position and dragging her along for the campaign to counter the palin factor.

as for the poll, it is 50/50 biden will put his foot in his mouth. he shoots from the hip first, and thinks later.

but he will school palin like the mindless little red neck girl from a small town she really is. im taking bets on weather there will be tears on stage or not.

Edited, Sep 14th 2008 11:07am by shadowrelm

Too bad the election is in two weeks. Obama will still be up by two at that rate when election day rolls around.

Uh-huh. Typical. Ignore the impending doom facing us as President Rookie lectures our enemies into submission and you libs cheer his Royal Black Neo-ness for the awesome job he has done in furthering our slide from primacy to just French-like average-ness.

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Yeah, I agree. I think the only reason that Kennedy is considered a brilliant president was that he was shot during his administration and baby boomers get really nostalgic about it.

Edited, Oct 21st 2008 12:16am by Annabella

Yeah, they blame Nixon for not ending a war quickly enough that he never started, when really, he was just inheriting **** from Kennedy and LBJ. But it is weird to agree with gbaji on something.

Edited, Oct 21st 2008 12:29am by Annabella

Only if you say, right now, that Bush and Blair for that matter dropped the ball on Iraq.

History will not look favourably on the whole WMD fiasco.

An addendum: as we learned painfully during Electiongate when FL used Dubya to @#%^ this nation painfully in the ***, at the end of the day it is the electoral college that elects the President, and those polls show a wee bit wider gap.


Edited, Oct 21st 2008 5:55am by Atomicflea

I think America should just switch to election by survival. Whoever comes out of the pit alive gets to be president, for the month.