21 Day Countdown, Russia/US WarFollow

It appears that we've been given a warning, one that doesn't seem to be televised on the American media. The reason this concerns me is because this is exactly how the last two world wars began**: A line is drawn in the sand. The US ignores it. War ensues. US claims the line never existed.
**WW1 - American Cruise ship sent into war zone, warned it would be attacked ahead of time by Germany but went anyways. Shortly afterwards it was 'an unprovoked attack' that led us to war.
**WW2 - After the US froze JP assets on American soil; ignored warnings that aiding the Soviet Union, an enemy of Japan at the time, is an act of war against Japan; and ignored all warnings, from Japan and other country leaders, the month prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor; the US continues to this day to act as if the attack on Pearl Harbor was 'an unprovoked attack on the US' which led us into war.

It appears 'we' are at it again:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20080902/116488911.html

Thoughts?

How will the US manage to war with Russia when the world is ending on wednesday? Besides which, I'm sure the aliens stealing our thoughts will intervene if it gets intense.

These first two responses are expected, and I'm sure there will be more similar to them. The reason they're expect is because this type of event has already happened before (WW1, WW2, Vietnam) and it takes millions of 'hog-washers' such as yourselves to allow something like this to take place.
By simply calling it 'silly' or attaching ridiculous claims, that have absolutely no relevance to what I've brought up, you are only making your position obvious. You don't care to deal with it because it's too complicated for you handle, so you brush it off as if it weren't true.
Please, by all means show me how/why this is untrue. I would love to not believe that our country is a war monger ... but with so many 'young minds' (RedPheonix and Kavek being examples) in America that are so easily coaxed into following mainstream, it is extremely difficult not to.

PS - If you're going to rebuttal, don't insult yourself: Provide evidence.

More importantly (and in the fashion of how such things actually go), you tell us why it is true. Is burden of proof truly such a difficult concept to grasp?

You really aren't very bright, are you? Please note that I didn't even read most of your post and wasn't responding to the content. I'm simply pointing out that you don't belong here and are probably posting in the wrong area. This is probably where you meant to post this: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=28

You're an idiot.

Both of your causes for WW 1 and 2 are subject to conjecture, if not entirely falsified. We had nothing to do with starting either war and most of what you think you know about it is just the liberal media spreading lies.

First off, I wouldn't use the words young, mind, *or* America to describe Red. ;)


Secondly, the bit you're missing is that the US regularly "interferes" in the exact sort of manner you are talking about. We cross lines of death, we impose sanctions, we provide relief to citizens of countries against their own leaders wishes, and we even sometimes impose embargoes and blockades which bring us right to the brink of nuclear war.

And almost all of the time, the other side realizes that we're just standing up to whatever they wanted to do, they come to the table, and an agreement is worked out. Occasionally, it does lead to war. But you can't assume that, and you absolutely can't argue that we shouldn't try.

I think a strong argument can be made that this sort of diplomacy tends to prevent wars far more often than it causes them. It forces the other side to think through how much that thing is really worth to them *before* things get out of hand. If you don't do this sort of challenge early enough, it's possible for a situation to gradually escalate to the point where the same action will be met with war, but if it had been done a few years earlier, it would have caused the other side to back down. It's really all about timing.

28 is still young

Can't really argue the rest, though.