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That's pretty fUcking academic for the millions of yanks who have no healthcare coverage, dontcha think?

As for medeconomics, explain how 100% coverage of healthcare costs in the UK is paid through taxes, at a lower tax cost to the US system. Never come back to me on that one yet, dipstick.

I asked about a specific scenario Nobby. I specifically picked one that's rare enough that in every likelihood there isn't a single hospital in your entire country that has the staff or equipment to deal with it. I also asked because it's the exact scenario a very good friend of mine went through. If we'd lived in your country, my best friends wife would be dead and my goddaughter would simply not exist.

So no. Not "better". Just more focused on the lowest common denominator.

I assumed that your preference for government running these things meant that they would be provided to every U.S. citizen and you saw this as more efficient. If you would like to elaborate more on how these services would be more efficient based on another criteria, feel free. There's no need to call people names, it makes you appear desperate and pretentious.



So your standard of an efficient health care system is how many people are insured? As Gbaji said, if everyone is entitled to have leeches placed on their body to suck out the "bad blood" I would not consider it a good health care system (I understand this is not the case, but by your logic it is better than the health care system in the U.S. where not every citizen has health care).



So when people decide they need other things in life besides medical insurance it's the government's responsiblity to provide it? I'm not saying it's not sad, but if this is something important, then don't you think it should be at the top of someone's "to do" list? You forget that health care isn't some fruit that just grows on trees to be plucked and distributed to everyone. It has to be paid for. The doctors have to be paid. It looks like, on average, Candadian doctors make about $30,000 less than U.S. doctors. And you want them to spend the rest of their life working 12 hour days and constantly going to school to learn the latest in medicine? Don't be shocked when these doctors tell you to **** off. And don't be shocked when citizens start crossing the border to seek out decent medical care because the only ones sticking around can't get jobs in other countries. But hey, as long as you have that wonderful fruit called health insurance.




If you have to declare that you're the winner, you're not. I've always sought the truth so don't hold back because you don't want to hurt my feelings. If you can convince me that your system is the best system available, I will vote for any candidate that offers to implement it in our country. At this time I am not convinced, based on the facts of reality.

I do, I just gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were attempting to matter in this discussion.

You made a statement, and I disagreed with it. You had several options at that point, but what you are telling me is that you chose to make a sarcastic non sequitur over any sort of response that actually relates to the situation at all.

I do not mean you don't matter as some sort of generalized insult against you, but as a specific description of what has occurred here. If your second post is actually as you have described it then only your first post in this thread relates to the topic. Every post following it was social banter.

Edited, Sep 13th 2008 5:19pm by Allegory

I don't think cats really "banter", Deb.

No, I mean I think they communicate more through body language than sounds.

Life expectancy is a reliable indicator of average, widespread good health outcomes. Prevention of illness, and timely and successful treatment of illness when it occurs.
Australia, Canada, France, New Zealand and the UK all do slightly better at keeping people alive and well than the USA, while at the same time spending less tax dollars on healthcare than the USA, while at the same time providing government-paid healthcare for the poor who can't afford private health-insurance, while at the same time having extremely well-paid doctors, who were the elite of the elite high-scoring high-school students, because medical degrees are the hardest and most sought after degrees to get into.

That's easy. In a democracy, people look at something done better overseas, and say, we can have that here too, if we vote it in! Moving overseas means leaving all your friends, your family and your home behind, after all.

I desperately want the judicial system in Western European countries, and Japan. I want Japan's broadband, and Copenhagen's public transport system.

Edited, Sep 14th 2008 7:51am by Aripyanfar

It's not...they're not conversing. There is no verse for them to do it with.

I would suspect that they'd do best on any condition that can be solved by shooting the sufferer through the head.

Well, not unless they're singing. Do you sing when you talk to other people?

And *you* said...

Does this also prevent deaf/mute people from conversing?