Just sayin'.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26565127/
So you Dems can quit spinning the whole our party is more cool and popular than yours routine.
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*shrug* people rubberneck at traffic accidents and train wrecks as well. Doesn't mean anything GOOD is happening while they watch.
You're missing the point. Knox brought it up earlier today and everyone said the DNC had 0.2 million or so more viewers than the RNC. This proves he was right.
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I thought they were talking specifically about Palin's acceptance speech vs. Obama's acceptance speech earlier today.
Of course, I could be completely wrong.
Edited, Sep 6th 2008 1:19am by loonieslucky
Of course, I could be completely wrong.
Edited, Sep 6th 2008 1:19am by loonieslucky
American Idol has a shitload of viewers too.
You reckon they watch in the hope of being enlightened or because they are waiting for some no-talent wannabe make a cnut of themselves??
Dude!!
You reckon they watch in the hope of being enlightened or because they are waiting for some no-talent wannabe make a cnut of themselves??
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Knox brought it up
Dude!!
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
So... the Republicans are the party of "OMG CELEBRITIES!!!"?
Good to know.
Poor Princess Palin is being kept in her ivory tower again this weekend, not being allowed to speak without someone writing down her words in advance
Call Obama a neophyte if you'd like but at least he's allowed out of the house without Mommy and Daddy watching over him. Probably because he can actually answer a question about something beyond the most basic RNC talking points.
Edited, Sep 6th 2008 12:26am by Jophiel
Good to know.
Poor Princess Palin is being kept in her ivory tower again this weekend, not being allowed to speak without someone writing down her words in advance
Quote:
Today, top McCain aide Rick Davis indicated the campaign isn't in any hurry to slot Palin for a Sunday show appearance -- and will do so only if he and other strategists determine it serves the ticket's purposes, not because some may view it as a required initiation for a major political player.
Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, Davis said, "I'd never commit to anything in the future. ... Our strategy is in our hands, not the media's. We're going to do what's in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are [sic] in our best interests, we'll do it. If we don't, we won't."
Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, Davis said, "I'd never commit to anything in the future. ... Our strategy is in our hands, not the media's. We're going to do what's in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are [sic] in our best interests, we'll do it. If we don't, we won't."
Edited, Sep 6th 2008 12:26am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
So... the Republicans are the party of "OMG CELEBRITIES!!!"?
Good to know.
Poor Princess Palin is being kept in her ivory tower again this weekend, not being allowed to speak without someone writing down her words in advanceCall Obama a neophyte if you'd like but at least he's allowed out of the house without Mommy and Daddy watching over him. Probably because he can actually answer a question about something beyond the most basic RNC talking points.
Edited, Sep 6th 2008 12:26am by Jophiel
Good to know.
Poor Princess Palin is being kept in her ivory tower again this weekend, not being allowed to speak without someone writing down her words in advance
Quote:
Today, top McCain aide Rick Davis indicated the campaign isn't in any hurry to slot Palin for a Sunday show appearance -- and will do so only if he and other strategists determine it serves the ticket's purposes, not because some may view it as a required initiation for a major political player.
Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, Davis said, "I'd never commit to anything in the future. ... Our strategy is in our hands, not the media's. We're going to do what's in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are [sic] in our best interests, we'll do it. If we don't, we won't."
Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, Davis said, "I'd never commit to anything in the future. ... Our strategy is in our hands, not the media's. We're going to do what's in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are [sic] in our best interests, we'll do it. If we don't, we won't."
Edited, Sep 6th 2008 12:26am by Jophiel
Hey she can make lame off-the-cuff jokes that make Republicans think she's the next Jerry Seinfeld. That counts for something.
Totem wrote:
You're missing the point. Knox brought it up earlier today and everyone said the DNC had 0.2 million or so more viewers than the RNC. This proves he was right.
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You're in the business of proving Knox right?
Wow, talk about a difficult career.
Totem wrote:
You're missing the point. Knox brought it up earlier today and everyone said the DNC had 0.2 million or so more viewers than the RNC. This proves he was right.
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Nope, he said more people watched Palin than Obama.
He likes to make sh*t up, you see.
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
Jophiel wrote:
Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, Davis said, "I'd never commit to anything in the future. ... Our strategy is in our hands, not the media's. We're going to do what's in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are [sic] in our best interests, we'll do it. If we don't, we won't."
That's rich: they're pretty much admitting that putting their Veep choice out into the ether hurts their chances of winning the election.
If I wasn't so damn cheap, I'd pay for a smiley. :D
I'm feeling better about those debates all the time. It seems that Palin still needs a teleprompter to recite the same speech lines she gave "from memory!" at the RNC.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
How many of us watched Obama on CNN.com though? *raises hand*
TV is the Great Evil used by the government to control the masses. No cable here. Not even basic. Fnord.
*raises hand* Jophiel wrote:
I'm feeling better about those debates all the time. It seems that Palin still needs a teleprompter to recite the same speech lines she gave "from memory!" at the RNC.
Heaps of people use teleprompters. There's no stigma attached to it. You can bet the President uses one at almost every speech he gives.
Although if she's just giving a template speech she's already given then using a teleprompter indicates a poor memory, I guess. Not a real issue politically.
zepoodle wrote:
Although if she's just giving a template speech she's already given then using a teleprompter indicates a poor memory, I guess. Not a real issue politically.
Yeah, except if it's true, it takes alot of air out of the "homerun" (at least according to Republicans) speech at RNC; the main thing Republicans are hanging onto about her.
DaimenKain wrote:
zepoodle wrote:
Although if she's just giving a template speech she's already given then using a teleprompter indicates a poor memory, I guess. Not a real issue politically.
Yeah, except if it's true, it takes alot of air out of the "homerun" (at least according to Republicans) speech at RNC; the main thing Republicans are hanging onto about her.
Hmm, since the VP choice is supposed to address shortcomings in the presidential candidate, you gotta ask yourself what the pubbies obsession demonstrating Palin's excellent memory signifies...
its not an us or them comment. its a comment that alot of people are really interested in what they have to say. alot of people are tuning in.
fortunatly, after having watched both, this is a good thing for the dems. obama put forth some ideas and tried leading people along with most of the speakers at the dnc.
mccain on the other hand preached changed but the path he outlined is exactly th same path bush has taken us. charter schools and vouchers, iran is the new debil, russia is not really our friend, more oil, and the ecomony? more tax cuts for corperations and nothing for the rest. and mccain was the only one that put any ideas out, the rest of the speakers for the rnc bar none spent there entire speach to the people who put them in office chanting "obama is a bad bad man" and NOTHING else.
its good for the dems and bad for the repubs that so many people were paying attention. the messages were start contrasts of each other. and no matter how much mccain says the "change" word, his policy plans are completly identical to the bush addministraiton.
a whole lot of people were paying attention. the polls are showing it. obama got a 6 point jump from his, mccain only got 2 points and all of them can probably be contributed to his vp pick among the party hard liners.
its about time people started paying attention.
fortunatly, after having watched both, this is a good thing for the dems. obama put forth some ideas and tried leading people along with most of the speakers at the dnc.
mccain on the other hand preached changed but the path he outlined is exactly th same path bush has taken us. charter schools and vouchers, iran is the new debil, russia is not really our friend, more oil, and the ecomony? more tax cuts for corperations and nothing for the rest. and mccain was the only one that put any ideas out, the rest of the speakers for the rnc bar none spent there entire speach to the people who put them in office chanting "obama is a bad bad man" and NOTHING else.
its good for the dems and bad for the repubs that so many people were paying attention. the messages were start contrasts of each other. and no matter how much mccain says the "change" word, his policy plans are completly identical to the bush addministraiton.
a whole lot of people were paying attention. the polls are showing it. obama got a 6 point jump from his, mccain only got 2 points and all of them can probably be contributed to his vp pick among the party hard liners.
its about time people started paying attention.
zepoodle wrote:
Heaps of people use teleprompters. There's no stigma attached to it.
Since she's been chosen as the running mate, she has only given canned speeches written by other people. The campaign refuses to allow her to give interviews where she might have to demonstrate knowledge. Needing a teleprompter to address crowds at this point (when all she's doing is introducing McCain with the same scripted remarks she was given for the RNC) speaks further to how tight the leash is on her and how worried they are of her committing a gaffe by speaking out of turn.
That's pretty ironic considering that Obama is running with Biden.
Edited, Sep 6th 2008 12:27pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Rate ups for SR! You finally got that spell-checker installed then?? Good work!
"If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders". Carlin.
Lots of the people tuning in to see Palin were Democrats. Both my wife and I tuned watched Palin, not because either of us are going to vote for her, but too see if McCain really, really picked her, and if she was as big a hypocrite and buffoon as she seemed.
Two minutes after she opened her mouth we popped the cork on a bottle of champagne and started to practice saying "President Obama".
Two minutes after she opened her mouth we popped the cork on a bottle of champagne and started to practice saying "President Obama".
Interview incoming!
This really made me laugh:
Poor Sarah. So beset by the mean reporters.
This really made me laugh:
McCain's campaign manager wrote:
"Why would we want to throw Sarah Palin into a cycle of piranhas called the news media that have nothing better to ask questions about than her personal life and her children?" Davis said. "So until at which point in time we feel like the news media is going to treat her with some level of respect and deference, I think it would be foolhardy to put her out into that kind of environment."
Poor Sarah. So beset by the mean reporters.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
The interview is better than nothing but a bit of a disappointment. It's being shot over several days meaning that Palin (A) Gets to brush up between shoots and (B) Gibson can't be so "mean" that she finds a reason to not return on day #2.
I'd much rather see a live interview (and that goes for any candidate).
Edited, Sep 8th 2008 10:46am by Jophiel
I'd much rather see a live interview (and that goes for any candidate).
Edited, Sep 8th 2008 10:46am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
knoxsouthy wrote:
So what you people are saying is no word from Hillary?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
I'm feeling better about those debates all the time. It seems that Palin still needs a teleprompter to recite the same speech lines she gave "from memory!" at the RNC.
Um... Except even in the three paragraph blog you linked it says that she "Used them [to?] help deliver her introduction of McCain". Since she didn't introduce McCain during the speech she delivered at the Convention, I think it's false to proclaim that she used it to give "the same lines" she gave at the convention...
I love how the teleprompter is suddenly under this massive scrutiny. Let me clear something up, no one on the Right actually thinks Palin is spiffy because she used, didn't use, or had a broken teleprompter. It was a bit of information is all. Interesting however, that while the same "teleprompter wasn't working right" information was provided originally for all the speakers on Wed of the convention, it's only Palin that everyone's obsessed about.
You guys are the ones driving this. People on the right think she gave a great speech because it was well delivered and made the points they wanted to hear, not because of the teleprompter. I guess I'm just not sure why you Libs are so obsessed with that aspect of it.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Um... Except even in the three paragraph blog you linked it says that she "Used them [to?] help deliver her introduction of McCain". Since she didn't introduce McCain during the speech she delivered at the Convention, I think it's false to proclaim that she used it to give "the same lines" she gave at the convention...
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