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#1 Sep 01 2008 at 7:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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...at least for longer than the five minutes he apparently used on the task.
ABC News wrote:
The campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., likes to herald the independence of its new running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.

And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."

Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.
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Clark says that Palin left the party and became a Republican in 1996, when she first ran for mayor of Wasilla.

The McCain-Palin campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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The AIP platform states that the purpose of the party is to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution ... To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature ... To support the privatization of government services ...”
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Earlier this year, Palin sent a video message to the AIP for its annual convention, where AIP vice chair George Clark told the small crowd that Palin "was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town –- that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along -– she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that. She also had about an 80 percent approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership."
I just know that all those who were getting the vapors at how unamerican Obama must be for having a pastor who said "God damn America" must be outraged that the Republican VP nominee belonged to, and continues to enjoy friendly connections with, a seperatist group who wants to break up the United States.

America Alaska First! Smiley: laugh
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#2 Sep 01 2008 at 7:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, better than ties to the Weather Underground.
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#3 Sep 01 2008 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
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This must means she has sewed up the entire Deep South for McCain. Woot!

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Totem wrote:
This must means she has sewed up the entire Deep South for McCain. Woot!
You mean Obama might lose Alabama? Smiley: laugh

The YouTube videos of this group's meetings are great. They're mad because American "occupation troops" were allowed to vote for Alaskan statehood in 1954 and want the vote declared invalid.
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#5 Sep 01 2008 at 7:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Totem wrote:
This must means she has sewed up the entire Deep South for McCain. Woot!

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You're really making lemonade out of lemons.
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I loved it when the head honcho guy there said that AIP members need to inflitrate the other political parties so they could steer them towards the AIP's goals.

Sarah Palin: Aleutian Candidate
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#7 Sep 01 2008 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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One mans freedom fighter is another (wo)mans terrorist!

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#9 Sep 02 2008 at 6:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Are you seriously comparing these people with Ayers?
I don't think I mentioned Ayers. But if you wanted to compare a group that was active in Obama's youth to a secessionist party Palin was actively involved in, paied dues to and continues to interact with today, go for it.
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oh and a group that thinks they should be apart from the US federal govn doesn't exactly loose you points in the south.
Who the hell cares about the south? Was McCain's Arkansas victory in question? I'd worry more about how it plays in Ohio and Michigan.

It's funny to watch you scramble to defend her connections though. "Obama! Obama! Obama!" You sound like Jan Brady pitching a hissy-fit Smiley: laugh
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I don't think I mentioned Ayers. But if you wanted to compare a group that was active in Obama's youth to a secessionist party Palin was actively involved in, paied dues to and continues to interact with today, go for it.

So, just so we're clear, 16 years ago activity is wrong, but 25-ish year ago activity is just fine?

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#12 Sep 02 2008 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
Ayers is actually kinda boring these days. He's a college professor that occasionally hosts dinner parties for community members, that a few centuries ago would have been called salons. Obama has ties to Ayers who has ties to the Weatherman. Palin has direct ties to the AIP, without any middleman involved.

She will have to reject and denounce the AIP in order to credibly take an oath of office.
#13 Sep 02 2008 at 6:18 AM Rating: Good
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You have to win at least one southern state to win the presidency. Right now it's not looking good for Obama.


The southern states are hesitant to vote for a black dude? Wow. We didn't expect that.
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So, just so we're clear, 16 years ago activity is wrong, but 25-ish year ago activity is just fine?
Obama was never involved in the Weather Underground. He has worked with Ayers on educational issues (just as Ayers has worked with many people in the city on the subject, of both parties and of nonpartisan groups). Palin has actively belonged to and continues to support a secessionist group.

A better argument might have been if Palin talked tax reform with the AIP nuts before but never had any political dealings with them. But she didn't.

C'mon now... if Wright was on tape calling US troops in Illinois "occupation forces", the Right would be creaming themselves. Personally, I don't think this disqualifies Palin (I have better reasons for that) but it's hilarious watching the usual suspects fall all over themselves to explain why belonging to a group who wants to break off from the US (which they refer to as "a nation in decline" and think any decent Alaskans would keep "at arm's length") and sending "Attaboy, guys! Keep up the good work!" videos to their 2008 convention is perfectly kosher.
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I'm not defending hers so much as criticizing Obama's.
I'd do that too if I knew Palin was indefensible.
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Which "radical conferences"? Your random right-wing blog quote doesn't say.

Just so we're clear, no one can actually defend Palin in this? They can only cry about Obama?

Kind of thought so. Smiley: smile
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So Ayers was a Jewish domestic terrorist interested in violently stopping the Vietnam War by promoting radical Islam, and Obama is an accomplice of some **** he did in the 60s because they worked together in the 90s?

Get out of here and take your conspiracy **** to the weird blogs in the dark corners of the internet where it belongs. Obama is not a radical Jewish domestic terrorist.
#19 Sep 02 2008 at 6:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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You're out of your mind if you think Obama didn't know anything about the weather underground.


Hahahahahahahahahaha. Holy ****, really? The weather underground? Hahahahahahahahahaha Wow, you guys are really, really, really, really, ******* desperate now. It's funny as hell. Hey! Was Obama part of CHAOS? Hahahahahahahahaha.

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That's because there's nothing to defend. It's not like that association actually bombed the pentagon or anything, that was Obama's boy.


Didn't Palin's party invade the South, though?
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#23 Sep 02 2008 at 6:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. Of course with someone of your limited intelligence I should be grateful you're not lying in your own excrement.

There was a very real connection between radical islam and judaism throughout the sixties. Now if only I could teach you how to use google.


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Yeah. The Jews and the Muslims are totally working together to defeat Christianity. That's why Palestine and Israel get along so well.

Shut the fck up.

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Edited, Sep 2nd 2008 10:54am by zepoodle
#24 Sep 02 2008 at 6:58 AM Rating: Good
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That's because there's nothing to defend. It's not like that association actually bombed the pentagon or anything, that was Obama's boy.


Didn't Palin's party invade the South, though?


wow owned.
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knoxsouthy wrote:
It's not like that association actually bombed the pentagon or anything, that was Obama's boy.
As I said... Smiley: laugh

Ah, you guys are nothing if not predictible. I wonder how many people who ******* and moaned over the moral failings of Jamie Lynn Spears are now crying "Leave poor Bristol ALONE!!!"
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