http://www.rockymountainnews.com/videos/detail/police-use-force/
Too funny. You Lefties sure know how to collect all the nutjobs.
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"Back it up, *****!"
The new "Don't tase me, bro"?
To protect and serve? She definitely got served.
Totem
Totem
Totem wrote:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/videos/detail/police-use-force/
Too funny. You Lefties sure know how to collect all the nutjobs.
Totem
Too funny. You Lefties sure know how to collect all the nutjobs.
Totem
How do you know the nutjob cop is a liberal?
But seriously, that guy must have felt really macho knocking a small girl down to the ground. I guess he was intimidated.
Just doin' his job, Dame, just doin' his job.
As a rule, when a cop tells you to do something it's wise to obey, then evaluate the situation. Normally I wouldn't bother with dispensing advice to board newbies like you, but who knows? You might get the verbal equivilent of those instructions from one of the old timers or an admin around here and I'd hate to see you gush blood all over that shiney new keyboard you're handling.
See? Us Right Wingers are all full of kindness and compassion. None of the Lefties around here would have taken the time to take you under their beneficent wing and so freely given you valuable advice like that. Remember that come voting time.
Totem
As a rule, when a cop tells you to do something it's wise to obey, then evaluate the situation. Normally I wouldn't bother with dispensing advice to board newbies like you, but who knows? You might get the verbal equivilent of those instructions from one of the old timers or an admin around here and I'd hate to see you gush blood all over that shiney new keyboard you're handling.
See? Us Right Wingers are all full of kindness and compassion. None of the Lefties around here would have taken the time to take you under their beneficent wing and so freely given you valuable advice like that. Remember that come voting time.
Totem
Daimen, I believe Totem is implying the woman who got beaten around was a nutjob - codepink is an anti war lobby group, which is where the Liberal comes from.
Excuse me while I put away my Sherlock Holmes hat.
I don't see why she's a nutjob, though.
Excuse me while I put away my Sherlock Holmes hat.
I don't see why she's a nutjob, though.
Kavekk wrote:
Daimen, I believe Totem is implying the woman who got beaten around was a nutjob - codepink is an anti war lobby group, which is where the Liberal comes from.
Excuse me while I put away my Sherlock Holmes hat.
I don't see why she's a nutjob, though.
Excuse me while I put away my Sherlock Holmes hat.
I don't see why she's a nutjob, though.
Well it's totem, I guess being a liberal is enough to be called a nutjob.
And yea, Totem, he sure was doing his job. There's absolutely no other way for a 6' police officer to control a 5' woman other than slamming her in the chest.
Sorry I'm such a board newbie. I guess being here 3.5 years is kind of new; sorry I have stuff like a job and rent and bills to worry about and not getting 14k posts on a message board.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzrBYF99QKI
More footage and some commentary from the cameraman.
More footage and some commentary from the cameraman.
"...sorry I have stuff like a job and rent and bills to worry about and not getting 14k posts on a message board." --Dame
I invoke Tare's Law, thus I officially win this argument. Ahhh, it's ok though, you just made a rookie mistake, no0b. I'll let it pass.
Totem
I invoke Tare's Law, thus I officially win this argument. Ahhh, it's ok though, you just made a rookie mistake, no0b. I'll let it pass.
Totem
I thought she had a nice aSs, but she can't take a cross check.
Oddly enough, Allegory, none of the champions for free speech and human rights happily conventioning there in Denver bothered to protest against the police state protecting them. Huh. You'd think at least one of the movers and shakers at the DNC could have come out and defended these poor souls rallying for their cause?
I guess not. They were too busy celebrating the ascension of The One.
Totem
I guess not. They were too busy celebrating the ascension of The One.
Totem
Totem wrote:
"...sorry I have stuff like a job and rent and bills to worry about and not getting 14k posts on a message board." --Dame
I invoke Tare's Law, thus I officially win this argument. Ahhh, it's ok though, you just made a rookie mistake, no0b. I'll let it pass.
Totem
I invoke Tare's Law, thus I officially win this argument. Ahhh, it's ok though, you just made a rookie mistake, no0b. I'll let it pass.
Totem
Wow I don't think there's anything more pathetic than believing that you're superior to someone because you have more posts than them on a message board. How about getting a life that doesn't revolve around the internet?
Btw, did you name yourself Totem because you sit on poles alot?
Edited, Sep 1st 2008 3:14am by DaimenKain
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DamienKain wrote:
How do you know the nutjob cop is a liberal?
But seriously, that guy must have felt really macho knocking a small girl down to the ground. I guess he was intimidated.
But seriously, that guy must have felt really macho knocking a small girl down to the ground. I guess he was intimidated.
Excuse me while I put away my Sherlock Holmes hat.
See, when someone follows a statement with "But seriously," it typically means that the previous statement wasn't serious. Weird, I know.
DamienKain wrote:
Totem wrote:
"...sorry I have stuff like a job and rent and bills to worry about and not getting 14k posts on a message board." --Dame
I invoke Tare's Law, thus I officially win this argument. Ahhh, it's ok though, you just made a rookie mistake, no0b. I'll let it pass.
Totem
I invoke Tare's Law, thus I officially win this argument. Ahhh, it's ok though, you just made a rookie mistake, no0b. I'll let it pass.
Totem
Wow I don't think there's anything more pathetic than believing that you're superior to someone because you have more posts than them on a message board. How about getting a life that doesn't revolve around the internet?
You kinda have the meaning backwards. I mean, I myself don't remember said "Tare's Law" being defined, but it can be pretty easily inferred from the context, don't you think?
That guy wrote:
See, when someone follows a statement with "But seriously," it typically means that the previous statement wasn't serious. Weird, I know.
Woosh.
I wrote:
Excuse me while I put away my Sherlock Holmes hat.
This line was there for a reason.
Edited, Sep 1st 2008 3:31am by Kavekk
Totem wrote:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/videos/detail/police-use-force/
Too funny. You Lefties sure know how to collect all the nutjobs.
Totem
Too funny. You Lefties sure know how to collect all the nutjobs.
Totem
Are you fcking insane?
I just want to say that, yeah, a truncheon to the throat seems a bit excessive.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Debalic wrote:
I just want to say that, yeah, a truncheon to the throat seems a bit excessive.
I'm sure the only reason she fell down was because she was caught off-guard while mid step (only a single foot on the ground). The force used wasn't excessive, just mistimed. And she totally milked the "omg I'm on the floor and hurt" moment.
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
Code Pinko was flopping like Vlade Divac.
Totem
Totem
TirithRR wrote:
Debalic wrote:
I just want to say that, yeah, a truncheon to the throat seems a bit excessive.
I'm sure the only reason she fell down was because she was caught off-guard while mid step (only a single foot on the ground). The force used wasn't excessive, just mistimed. And she totally milked the "omg I'm on the floor and hurt" moment.
Can you even see where her feet are in the video? It doesn't look like she tripped. It looks like she copped a truncheon to the sternum.
(she did milk the crap out of it though)
zepoodle wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Debalic wrote:
I just want to say that, yeah, a truncheon to the throat seems a bit excessive.
I'm sure the only reason she fell down was because she was caught off-guard while mid step (only a single foot on the ground). The force used wasn't excessive, just mistimed. And she totally milked the "omg I'm on the floor and hurt" moment.
Can you even see where her feet are in the video? It doesn't look like she tripped. It looks like she copped a truncheon to the sternum.
(she did milk the crap out of it though)
I didn't say she tripped. I said she was pushed at a time when she was not the most stable. It's very easy to push someone over if both there feet are not on the ground.
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
TirithRR wrote:
I didn't say she tripped. I said she was pushed at a time when she was not the most stable. It's very easy to push someone over if both there feet are not on the ground.
Yeah, but I'm looking at the video for about the fourth time now and you can't even see her feet. They're out of the shot. You can see from her shoulders up. There's no way to tell what her stance was.
I don't see why you would assume she fell over because she wasn't standing properly rather than because of the forceful blow to her torso.
The people who think he gave her a small love tap are deluded. He slammed her in the chest, period. He's like 6' tall and she's a short woman with a bullhorn and a water bottle to protect herself.
He's also a douche for calling her a *****; where's the reasoning in that? I guess the police not only have to contain you but call you names as well?
Anyone saying she's milking it doesn't make any sense either. Did you examine her? Are you a great doctor who can diagnose injuries from a short videotape?
The cop assaulted her unfairly because he went on a power trip and didn't like the "nutjob liberal" not listening to him. So he had a childish temper tantrum like a four year old (or Totem) would.
He's also a douche for calling her a *****; where's the reasoning in that? I guess the police not only have to contain you but call you names as well?
Anyone saying she's milking it doesn't make any sense either. Did you examine her? Are you a great doctor who can diagnose injuries from a short videotape?
The cop assaulted her unfairly because he went on a power trip and didn't like the "nutjob liberal" not listening to him. So he had a childish temper tantrum like a four year old (or Totem) would.
DaimenKain wrote:
The people who think he gave her a small love tap are deluded. He slammed her in the chest, period. He's like 6' tall and she's a short woman with a bullhorn and a water bottle to protect herself.
He's also a douche for calling her a *****; where's the reasoning in that? I guess the police not only have to contain you but call you names as well?
Anyone saying she's milking it doesn't make any sense either. Did you examine her? Are you a great doctor who can diagnose injuries from a short videotape?
The cop assaulted her unfairly because he went on a power trip and didn't like the "nutjob liberal" not listening to him. So he had a childish temper tantrum like a four year old (or Totem) would.
He's also a douche for calling her a *****; where's the reasoning in that? I guess the police not only have to contain you but call you names as well?
Anyone saying she's milking it doesn't make any sense either. Did you examine her? Are you a great doctor who can diagnose injuries from a short videotape?
The cop assaulted her unfairly because he went on a power trip and didn't like the "nutjob liberal" not listening to him. So he had a childish temper tantrum like a four year old (or Totem) would.
So... you in your own all knowing glory which you claim no one who has an opposing view can have can know that she was brutalized without being there and involved?
Cause you know, the 5 second view from the camera says everything.
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
TirithRR wrote:
DaimenKain wrote:
The people who think he gave her a small love tap are deluded. He slammed her in the chest, period. He's like 6' tall and she's a short woman with a bullhorn and a water bottle to protect herself.
He's also a douche for calling her a *****; where's the reasoning in that? I guess the police not only have to contain you but call you names as well?
Anyone saying she's milking it doesn't make any sense either. Did you examine her? Are you a great doctor who can diagnose injuries from a short videotape?
The cop assaulted her unfairly because he went on a power trip and didn't like the "nutjob liberal" not listening to him. So he had a childish temper tantrum like a four year old (or Totem) would.
He's also a douche for calling her a *****; where's the reasoning in that? I guess the police not only have to contain you but call you names as well?
Anyone saying she's milking it doesn't make any sense either. Did you examine her? Are you a great doctor who can diagnose injuries from a short videotape?
The cop assaulted her unfairly because he went on a power trip and didn't like the "nutjob liberal" not listening to him. So he had a childish temper tantrum like a four year old (or Totem) would.
So... you in your own all knowing glory which you claim no one who has an opposing view can have can know that she was brutalized without being there and involved?
Cause you know, the 5 second view from the camera says everything.
What I can see is a cop about 6' tall striking a small woman who wasn't even prepared for it in the chest, so yea...I can say with absolute certainty that a 6' cop struck a woman in the chest who was a foot shorter than him.....yea. You can't see if any of her bones are broken or if she's bruised or injured. What you can see is a male cop about 10x stronger and much bigger than the woman striking her in the chest.
Your point?
DaimenKain wrote:
What I can see is a cop about 6' tall striking a small woman who wasn't even prepared for it in the chest, so yea...I can say with absolute certainty that a 6' cop struck a woman in the chest who was a foot shorter than him.....yea. You can't see if any of her bones are broken or if she's bruised or injured. What you can see is a male cop about 10x stronger and much bigger than the woman striking her in the chest.
Your point?
Your point?
That you don't know if she was hurt in any way by it, other than her pride. You don't know what altercations happened prior to it. So all you see is a man pushing a woman. Which in your moral view is wrong because a woman is weak compared to a man.
So if it had been a 6 foot man that he pushed and who had fallen to the ground it would have been ok? Just because on video they appeared to be equal?
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
TirithRR wrote:
So... you in your own all knowing glory which you claim no one who has an opposing view can have can know that she was brutalized without being there and involved?
Cause you know, the 5 second view from the camera says everything.
Cause you know, the 5 second view from the camera says everything.
In those five seconds we see a unarmed and lightly built young girl being beaten to the ground by a trained law enforcement officer with a nightstick. Saying she was brutalized is an exaggeration but it's obvious that the cop stepped over a line here. Not only that, he called her a *****. I'm pretty sure the police textbook on crowd control at public protests doesn't say "Insult and threaten them. This will encourage obedience."
Neither of them was acting very sensibly, but if it comes to laying blame, it was the cop who hit her. Saying that she was goading him or something is playground but-she-started-it bullsh1t. Police officers should know better than that.
You can say she took advantage of it, which she clearly has given her "optimistic" statement to the press after being released, but do not try and justify what that cop did. It was way out of line. He slammed her in the chest with his nightstick. That's not crowd control, it's bullying.
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Quote:
So if it had been a 6 foot man that he pushed and who had fallen to the ground it would have been ok? Just because on video they appeared to be equal?
Not intrinsically, but it would have caused less of a ruckus.
Edited, Sep 1st 2008 1:34pm by zepoodle
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