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#27 Aug 31 2008 at 10:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Allow me to illuminate the landscape you are standing on, Dame.

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/
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#28 Aug 31 2008 at 10:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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The fact that you think Palin is actually extremely qualified for the VP spot is proof enough of your extreme partisanism.
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#29 Aug 31 2008 at 10:58 PM Rating: Decent
Wow what an unbiased and fair website that is; wow.
#30 Aug 31 2008 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, I've read all of them, Dame, trust me. Funny thing is, there isn't a shred of evidence that proves it. You can say "yet," but as of this moment her record is clean.

Strangely, each of you seem to have no problem with a president with no experience, yet object strenously that a vice president has little. This demonstrates far more aptly how blind and partisan you are, rather than the reverse. Even more telling, you expose your misogyny by explaining McCain choosing Palin on the basis of her having a-- as you put it --@#%^

Niiiiiice. I suppose you believe all women should be at home rattling pans and vacuuming instead of making their mark in the world. C'mon, just say it. You know you want to. After all, chauvanism is just a small step removed from racism. If you could get away with it you'd love to tell people to get that n.i.g.g.e.r in office just to prove how unprejudiced you are. You prolly even have close friends who are black, right?

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Edited, Sep 1st 2008 2:57am by Totem
#31 Aug 31 2008 at 11:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Strangely, each of you seem to have no problem with a president with no experience, yet object strenously that a vice president has little.
Obama's convinced me of his ability. Palin hasn't. Tell her to get on the horse and start wowing me.
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I suppose you believe all women should be at home rattling pans and vacuuming instead of making their mark in the world.
Nah. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, to pull a Republican name, would have been a much more intelligent choice. Palin is just baffling.
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#32 Aug 31 2008 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, I've read all of them, Dame, trust me. Funny thing is, there isn't a shred of evidence that proves it. You can say "yet," but as of this moment her record is clean.

Strangely, each of you seem to have no problem with a president with no experience, yet object strenously that a vice president has little. This demonstrates far more aptly how blind and partisan you are, rather than the reverse. Even more telling, you expose your misogyny by explaining McCain choosing Palin on the basis of her having a-- as you put it --@#%^

Niiiiiice. I suppose you believe all women should be at home rattling pans and vacuuming instead of making their mark in the world. C'mon, just say it. You know you want to. After all, chauvanism is just a small step removed from racism. If you could get away with it you'd love to tell people to get that n.i.g.g.e.r in office just to prove how unprejudiced you are. You prolly even have close friends who are black, right?

Totem


Edited, Sep 1st 2008 2:57am by Totem


No, but if you honestly don't believe Palin was chosen just because she is a good looking woman, you're seriously deluded. So, what you're telling me is that Palin's experience makes her the best possible Republican VP candidate? There isn't ANY republican out there with a much better resume than Sarah Palin? Me saying that she was picked for her p*ssy isn't misogyny, it's fact. If she were uglier or a man with the same resume she would have had ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance at getting the VP nomination.

@ the "partisan" and "experience" section of your post: You're missing the whole point. I'm not pointing out her inexperience to show that Obama is vastly more experienced, because he's not WAY more experienced than her but since his inexperience seems to be a major sticking point with you conservatives, it's funny that you're working so hard to defend someone who at the very very best is only slightly more experienced than Obama (which again, I don't think she is).
#33 Aug 31 2008 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
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"Obama's convinced me of his ability. Palin hasn't." --Jo

Obviously you have a low threshold for convincing. Your full support for Palin's talents in governence should be forthcoming soon on thaat basis I suspect.

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#34 Aug 31 2008 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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So, Jo, should Palin beat Biden handily in their debate, would that be enough to convince you she is for real? I'm just wondering what would constitute proof of her capabilities in your eyes.

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#35 Aug 31 2008 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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"Obama's convinced me of his ability. Palin hasn't." --Jo

Obviously you have a low threshold for convincing. Your full support for Palin's talents in governence should be forthcoming soon on thaat basis I suspect.

Totem


Yeah...exactly. If it's true he has a low threshold for convincing, then it's certainly true that he'll have full support for Palin's talents.
#36 Aug 31 2008 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
Totem wrote:
So, Jo, should Palin beat Biden handily in their debate, would that be enough to convince you she is for real? I'm just wondering what would constitute proof of her capabilities in your eyes.

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Well should a high school football team beat the New England Patriots, it would be enough to convince me they're for real. Doesn't mean it has a snowball in hell's chances of doing it.
#37 Aug 31 2008 at 11:29 PM Rating: Good
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Obviously you have a low threshold for convincing.
No, Palin's just really bad at it Smiley: laugh

C'mon... "Alaska is close to Russia"? You're serious about that being a qualification? Was Palin involved in intelligence meetings about Russia? Was she involved in military planning exercises? Has she discussed commerce with them? Has she met with Russian leaders? Or did she just gain her foreign policy "experience" via osmosis by being near to the Mother Bear?

Obama has, in contrast, served on the Foreign Affairs Committee (beyond the European subcommittee before you make that your retort), taken assignments from the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, traveled extensively abroad (as opposed to Palin who needed to get a passport in 2007), met with heads of state in the Middle East and Europe and helped create legislation for foreign related bills such as the Secure Fence Act and the Lugar-Obama Nuclear proliferation bill.

Sadly, he doesn't get points for being kinda near another country though Smiley: frown
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#38 Aug 31 2008 at 11:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Totem wrote:
So, Jo, should Palin beat Biden handily in their debate, would that be enough to convince you she is for real?
It'd be a start. Ask me after the debates.
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#39 Aug 31 2008 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
When is the first VP debate anyway?

Edit: nvm...found it...Oct 2

Edited, Sep 1st 2008 3:30am by DaimenKain
#40 Aug 31 2008 at 11:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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As far as I know, there's only one VP debate. That's standard.

It's funny how every argument for Palin's "experience" revolves around how experienced Obama is or isn't. Obama spent the last 18 months or so making his case for it -- how come Palin can't make her own case without trying to ride on Obama's coat tails?

Can you make your best argument for what qualifies Palin for the task of president without invoking Obama's name, Totem?

Edited, Sep 1st 2008 2:35am by Jophiel
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#41 Aug 31 2008 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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In all truth, Dame, I believe Palin was chosen by McCain because she represents several things:
*A demonstrable example of his "maverick-ness" if you will, whereby he shows he is going outside The Establishment to get fresh perspectives on reform and change, as opposed to the safe pick by Obama of Biden, who does not represent Change (capital "C").

*She, unlike Hutchinson, for example, actually performed as a "maverick" (if I can use that term again) by bucking the Alaskan Republican Party and going after entrenched corruption-- not that I have anything against KBH. She just doesn't meet what McCain apparently is looking for in a reformer.

*She solidifies the conservative base and takes a swing at disaffected Hellbeast voters and undecided independents.

*She represents something which East Coasters do not-- inhabitants of Western states know of what I'm talking about. It's the political equivilent of East Coast bias in sports broadcasting, thus she appeals to western state voters.

*It's an opportunity for the Republican Party to be the history making party should we win in November, regardless of the Ferraro stunt in an unwinable election against Reagan.

*And she is photogenic. Look at any news anchor and pick out an ugly one. You can't. She automatically garners television face time.

*She stole DNC thunder immediately after their convention, blunting any Obama bounce he might have otherwise gotten from a weekend of press coverage. Instead she is the story. Very smart move and timing on McCain's behalf regardless her qualifications on that basis alone.

*In an election where it's nigh impossible to out-glam Obama, the darling of Hollywood, McCain has come pretty close with Palin. She even has a television background-- which to the Dem's possible dismay, might mean she is better on camera and in debates than what you are expecting-- especially to hear the "Biden will kill her in the debates" talk.

Sure, she's eye candy in a certain sense. But counter her negatives with Biden's past ability to put his foot in his mouth, he's not exactly the wisest choice Obama could have made.

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#42 Aug 31 2008 at 11:47 PM Rating: Decent
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In all truth, Dame, I believe Palin was chosen by McCain because she represents several things:
*A demonstrable example of his "maverick-ness" if you will, whereby he shows he is going outside The Establishment to get fresh perspectives on reform and change, as opposed to the safe pick by Obama of Biden, who does not represent Change (capital "C").

*She, unlike Hutchinson, for example, actually performed as a "maverick" (if I can use that term again) by bucking the Alaskan Republican Party and going after entrenched corruption-- not that I have anything against KBH. She just doesn't meet what McCain apparently is looking for in a reformer.

*She solidifies the conservative base and takes a swing at disaffected Hellbeast voters and undecided independents.

*She represents something which East Coasters do not-- inhabitants of Western states know of what I'm talking about. It's the political equivilent of East Coast bias in sports broadcasting, thus she appeals to western state voters.

*It's an opportunity for the Republican Party to be the history making party should we win in November, regardless of the Ferraro stunt in an unwinable election against Reagan.

*And she is photogenic. Look at any news anchor and pick out an ugly one. You can't. She automatically garners television face time.

*She stole DNC thunder immediately after their convention, blunting any Obama bounce he might have otherwise gotten from a weekend of press coverage. Instead she is the story. Very smart move and timing on McCain's behalf regardless her qualifications on that basis alone.

*In an election where it's nigh impossible to out-glam Obama, the darling of Hollywood, McCain has come pretty close with Palin. She even has a television background-- which to the Dem's possible dismay, might mean she is better on camera and in debates than what you are expecting-- especially to hear the "Biden will kill her in the debates" talk.

Sure, she's eye candy in a certain sense. But counter her negatives with Biden's past ability to put his foot in his mouth, he's not exactly the wisest choice Obama could have made.

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It's funny how most of your listed reasons have more to do with superficial things like her looks or how she "stole the dnc thunder" or "out-glams" Obama or "well if we win at least we make history too"

So, basically what you're telling us is that McCain is more concerned with image and one-upping Obama than choosing someone who would be a good VP or President? If not, then his decision making is poor and that's something you don't want in a President. I mean if it's not just for image, then he really believes she's the absolute best Republican candidate after himself for President....nice.

Damn Blow'em you sure know how to pick em.

#43 Aug 31 2008 at 11:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, basically what you're telling us is that McCain is more concerned with image and one-upping Obama than choosing someone who would be a good VP or President?
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#44 Aug 31 2008 at 11:56 PM Rating: Decent
I just finished watching the youtube video of Palin on the Late Late Show.

Yeah, the VP debate's gonna be fun.
#45 Sep 01 2008 at 2:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd say my first three were solid, non-fluff reasons, and the fourth is more of an explanation why she resonates with the exurbs (sp?). The last four are more superficial in nature, but speak to the issues that the Obama campaign has focused and run on, ie rockstar Obama, etc. So in that sense the McCain camp is fighting fire with fire-- and to date since her announcement, is doing it splendidly.

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#46 Sep 01 2008 at 3:16 AM Rating: Default
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Lol, you can always count on the dipsh1ts visiting this board to rate down a thread that doesn't agree with their narrow view of the world, eh, Dame? Evidently you haven't discovered that titled posters are impervious to such petty acts. The very fact you'd do that speaks volumes about why you aren't old enough, mature enough, or smart enough to post in the Asylum.

Lemme clue you in, sport. This is where the established posters hang out, ie the cool kids. While I may argue with someone like Jophiel, I respect his opinions. It just doesn't stop me from mocking him whenever I get the chance. You, on the other hand, in a fit of pique, unload all your bile with the rate-down because you can't operate at the same level or on the same Plane of Intellectuality (post-Kunark expansion) as the rest of us demi-gods here. Apparently you don't fit in that well. Perhaps you'd feel more welcome in the OOT?

But by all means, please feel free to rate me down to your heart's content. Just don't be too surprised when the very next post I write has me right back where you started.

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#47 Sep 01 2008 at 3:36 AM Rating: Decent
I won't attack Palin's experience, I will however, attack her ultra-conservative views.


There is conservative, conservative on meth, then there is Sarah Palin.
#48 Sep 01 2008 at 3:59 AM Rating: Decent
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#49 Sep 01 2008 at 4:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Allow me to illuminate the landscape you are standing on, Dame.

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30...rack-obama/

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Since when did Alaska border Russia? The Bering Sea is in the way. I'm not sure that counts.

Anyway. Giving us a link to a website established solely to denigrate Barack Obama is as credible a platform as me showing you a link to my girlfriend's Myspace blog from when she was 14 and telling you that this is why George Bush is stupid and shouldn't be president.

Anyone with a keyboard can write any **** they yanked from the cold and neglected corners of their imagination they want, put it on the internet and promote it as truth. Everything you've said here stands as evidence of that.

Edit: Huh. I just re-read the first post and realised that you were telling us to vote for her because she's a smoking hot milf.

I think I lost you somewhere there, totem.

Edited, Sep 1st 2008 8:24am by zepoodle
#50 Sep 01 2008 at 5:09 AM Rating: Good
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So in that sense the McCain camp is fighting fire with fire-- and to date since her announcement, is doing it splendidly.


That's generally how it works when everyone knows @#%^ all about you. Which do you think is more likely, that as people discover that she believes that women raped by their fathers should be forced to carry pregnancies to term, and that creationism should be taught in schools, and that she uses her authority as Governor to settle family spats that her negatives will go up or down?

Hmm..let's ponder this for a while. How do you think she'll be received when Biden smiles at her in the debate and has to explain that Afghanistan is not a shawl?

I guess the retarded kid might win her a few sucker votes. Hope that's worth it :)

ETA: While we're here, I would **** her with your **** attached to a robot I controlled from 1000 miles away.

Edited, Sep 1st 2008 9:06am by Smasharoo
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Oh, I've read all of them, Dame, trust me. Funny thing is, there isn't a shred of evidence that proves it. You can say "yet," but as of this moment her record is clean.

Strangely, each of you seem to have no problem with a president with no experience, yet object strenously that a vice president has little. This demonstrates far more aptly how blind and partisan you are, rather than the reverse. Even more telling, you expose your misogyny by explaining McCain choosing Palin on the basis of her having a-- as you put it --@#%^

Niiiiiice. I suppose you believe all women should be at home rattling pans and vacuuming instead of making their mark in the world. C'mon, just say it. You know you want to. After all, chauvinism is just a small step removed from racism. If you could get away with it you'd love to tell people to get that n.i.g.g.e.r in office just to prove how unprejudiced you are. You prolly even have close friends who are black, right?

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Not only have I had my hands in more vaginas than most of the men on this board, but I also would be thrilled to see a woman in the executive office, a wish that I and many other women have held dear.

But Jesus, I mean, Sarah Palin is just Pat Buchanan in drag.
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